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For My Fellow QB Naysayers... Gun to Head, Which One Do You Take?

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  • and if they aren't clowney? And go with Hoyer.

  • only way all 3 is gone possible if someone trases with rams to move up for a qb

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  • You guys are really willing to bet next season on Hoyer? Havent we seen this story before? The QBs next year are not guaranteed to be any better than this years. Hell Winston has already came out and said he wants to play 2 more years at Florida St., and what are the chances were bad enough to pick #1? Mariota is a less skilled Manziel. Hundley has a Terrelle Pryor feel to him. Im sick of losing. Im sick of not having a QB. No more next years.

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  • B beare

    only way all 3 is gone possible if someone trases with rams to move up for a qb

    @beare said:

    only way all 3 is gone possible if someone trases with rams to move up for a qb

    I dont think its impossible the Rams take a QB.

  • Top to bottom in order of availability

    Bridgewater - most starting ability. If we draft this kid we better be patient as fans

    Bortles - most upside. will be good with decent coaching

    Carr - supposidly the best QB for a transition into the draft.

    Johnny - to be honest with you. I totally pass or trade the pick if all above are gone.

  • Flyin JF Flyin J

    You guys are really willing to bet next season on Hoyer? Havent we seen this story before? The QBs next year are not guaranteed to be any better than this years. Hell Winston has already came out and said he wants to play 2 more years at Florida St., and what are the chances were bad enough to pick #1? Mariota is a less skilled Manziel. Hundley has a Terrelle Pryor feel to him. Im sick of losing. Im sick of not having a QB. No more next years.

    XxDaBuckeyexX said:

    You guys are really willing to bet next season on Hoyer? Havent we seen this story before? The QBs next year are not guaranteed to be any better than this years. Hell Winston has already came out and said he wants to play 2 more years at Florida St., and what are the chances were bad enough to pick #1? Mariota is a less skilled Manziel. Hundley has a Terrelle Pryor feel to him. Im sick of losing. Im sick of not having a QB. No more next years.

    wait till 2015 okay?

  • Flyin JF Flyin J

    You guys are really willing to bet next season on Hoyer? Havent we seen this story before? The QBs next year are not guaranteed to be any better than this years. Hell Winston has already came out and said he wants to play 2 more years at Florida St., and what are the chances were bad enough to pick #1? Mariota is a less skilled Manziel. Hundley has a Terrelle Pryor feel to him. Im sick of losing. Im sick of not having a QB. No more next years.

    XxDaBuckeyexX said:

    You guys are really willing to bet next season on Hoyer? Havent we seen this story before? The QBs next year are not guaranteed to be any better than this years. Hell Winston has already came out and said he wants to play 2 more years at Florida St., and what are the chances were bad enough to pick #1? Mariota is a less skilled Manziel. Hundley has a Terrelle Pryor feel to him. Im sick of losing. Im sick of not having a QB. No more next years.

    if the big three are gone what choice do they have?I wouldn't wanna just say we are taking the best QB avail with this pick...even if it Carr and AJ Mac

    Id rather have a dominant Clowney than another Weeden

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  • J jeffinwv

    XxDaBuckeyexX said:

    You guys are really willing to bet next season on Hoyer? Havent we seen this story before? The QBs next year are not guaranteed to be any better than this years. Hell Winston has already came out and said he wants to play 2 more years at Florida St., and what are the chances were bad enough to pick #1? Mariota is a less skilled Manziel. Hundley has a Terrelle Pryor feel to him. Im sick of losing. Im sick of not having a QB. No more next years.

    if the big three are gone what choice do they have?I wouldn't wanna just say we are taking the best QB avail with this pick...even if it Carr and AJ Mac

    Id rather have a dominant Clowney than another Weeden

    @jeffinwv said:

    if the big three are gone what choice do they have?I wouldn't wanna just say we are taking the best QB avail with this pick...even if it Carr and AJ Mac

    Id rather have a dominant Clowney than another Weeden

    If we get another Weeden, we will have another hight first round pick next year anyway.

    "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
  • J jeffinwv

    XxDaBuckeyexX said:

    You guys are really willing to bet next season on Hoyer? Havent we seen this story before? The QBs next year are not guaranteed to be any better than this years. Hell Winston has already came out and said he wants to play 2 more years at Florida St., and what are the chances were bad enough to pick #1? Mariota is a less skilled Manziel. Hundley has a Terrelle Pryor feel to him. Im sick of losing. Im sick of not having a QB. No more next years.

    if the big three are gone what choice do they have?I wouldn't wanna just say we are taking the best QB avail with this pick...even if it Carr and AJ Mac

    Id rather have a dominant Clowney than another Weeden

    @jeffinwv said:

    if the big three are gone what choice do they have?I wouldn't wanna just say we are taking the best QB avail with this pick...even if it Carr and AJ Mac

    Id rather have a dominant Clowney than another Weeden

    ok, if we refuse to trade up and the draft miraculously goes QB, QB, QB, we can take Greg Robinson and wait on a QB...
  • Flyin JF Flyin J

    You guys are really willing to bet next season on Hoyer? Havent we seen this story before? The QBs next year are not guaranteed to be any better than this years. Hell Winston has already came out and said he wants to play 2 more years at Florida St., and what are the chances were bad enough to pick #1? Mariota is a less skilled Manziel. Hundley has a Terrelle Pryor feel to him. Im sick of losing. Im sick of not having a QB. No more next years.

    XxDaBuckeyexX said:

    You guys are really willing to bet next season on Hoyer? Havent we seen this story before? The QBs next year are not guaranteed to be any better than this years. Hell Winston has already came out and said he wants to play 2 more years at Florida St., and what are the chances were bad enough to pick #1? Mariota is a less skilled Manziel. Hundley has a Terrelle Pryor feel to him. Im sick of losing. Im sick of not having a QB. No more next years.

    all hypothetical and not one fact bro.if manzieel was so good and a generational player then Bortles and Bridgewater skulls not be in the conversation for best qb in draft. Watkins looks like the next Fitzgerald doesn't that excite anyone??
    "We are Americans. We don't quit doing something because it's wrong. We just keep doing the wrong thing till it turns out right." Browns maybe the most American Football team ever.
  • cdl15C cdl15

    XxDaBuckeyexX said:

    You guys are really willing to bet next season on Hoyer? Havent we seen this story before? The QBs next year are not guaranteed to be any better than this years. Hell Winston has already came out and said he wants to play 2 more years at Florida St., and what are the chances were bad enough to pick #1? Mariota is a less skilled Manziel. Hundley has a Terrelle Pryor feel to him. Im sick of losing. Im sick of not having a QB. No more next years.

    all hypothetical and not one fact bro.if manzieel was so good and a generational player then Bortles and Bridgewater skulls not be in the conversation for best qb in draft. Watkins looks like the next Fitzgerald doesn't that excite anyone??

    @cdl15 said:

    all hypothetical and not one fact bro.if manzieel was so good and a generational player then Bortles and Bridgewater skulls not be in the conversation for best qb in draft. Watkins looks like the next Fitzgerald doesn't that excite anyone??

    I never once said Manziel was a "generational" player. I like Manziel the best of the three, but right now im not opposed to any of em. Lets say we draft Watkins. We get him for 4 years. If he lives up to the billing of the number 4 pick, how do we resign him? We cant pay him and Gordon number 1 money, which means we let one walk after their rookie deal, and were right back to needing a number 2. Id rather go OLine or LB if we decide to continue ignoring the QB position.
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  • I would hate to get to where I didn't wanna draft a great player because Im afraid I cant resign him in 4 years.I would never run a team like that

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  • J jeffinwv

    Manziel...yea he is boom or bust I admit it.

    But when the team has lost so much for so long it cant be a bad thing to bring attention to the team. butts in seats ..yea I said it

    and get the browns on national TV. Everybody is gonna wanna watch him to see if he can pull the same magic he did in college.

    Lets face it America is not waiting on the edge of their seats to see if Blake Bortles is gonna be a good QB.

    But having a full stadium with a loud crowd cant hurt. Being on TV cant hurt. Having a buzz and excitement about the team and the future cant hurt.

    Honestly the three QBs are close.But Manziel brings these other things to the table as well.And if he has a great year...then players will wanna play with him....

    Yea I guess it all works in my dreams.. and butts in seats and being on TV doesn't equate to wins , But skills being equal among the three,this is something the other two do not have.

    @jeffinwv said:

    Manziel...yea he is boom or bust I admit it.

    But when the team has lost so much for so long it cant be a bad thing to bring attention to the team. butts in seats ..yea I said it

    and get the browns on national TV. Everybody is gonna wanna watch him to see if he can pull the same magic he did in college.

    Lets face it America is not waiting on the edge of their seats to see if Blake Bortles is gonna be a good QB.

    But having a full stadium with a loud crowd cant hurt. Being on TV cant hurt. Having a buzz and excitement about the team and the future cant hurt.

    Honestly the three QBs are close.But Manziel brings these other things to the table as well.And if he has a great year...then players will wanna play with him....

    Yea I guess it all works in my dreams.. and butts in seats and being on TV doesn't equate to wins , But skills being equal among the three,this is something the other two do not have.

    That is absolutely the wrong reason to draft a quarterback. See below.

    @jcam222 said:

    That hype will only last so long then it will be down to whether not he delivered on it. If he does then you are right. If he doesn't the only attention we get is talking about another badly broken pick. As far as butts in the seats amazingly enough I think we could start a dog at QB and the stadium would fill.

    RGIII was all over ESPN and the commercial world pimping Subway. Now that the Redskins had a down year, not so much. Don't draft hype- draft a quarterback that can win games.

  • Flyin JF Flyin J

    @cdl15 said:

    all hypothetical and not one fact bro.if manzieel was so good and a generational player then Bortles and Bridgewater skulls not be in the conversation for best qb in draft. Watkins looks like the next Fitzgerald doesn't that excite anyone??

    I never once said Manziel was a "generational" player. I like Manziel the best of the three, but right now im not opposed to any of em. Lets say we draft Watkins. We get him for 4 years. If he lives up to the billing of the number 4 pick, how do we resign him? We cant pay him and Gordon number 1 money, which means we let one walk after their rookie deal, and were right back to needing a number 2. Id rather go OLine or LB if we decide to continue ignoring the QB position.

    XxDaBuckeyexX said:

    Id rather go OLine or LB if we decide to continue ignoring the QB position.

    It's as if we focus extra hard on QBs, then it will make them extra better... 😵

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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  • J jeffinwv

    I would hate to get to where I didn't wanna draft a great player because Im afraid I cant resign him in 4 years.I would never run a team like that

    @jeffinwv said:

    I would hate to get to where I didn't wanna draft a great player because Im afraid I cant resign him in 4 years.I would never run a team like that

    which is why you'll never run a team.
  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    XxDaBuckeyexX said:

    Id rather go OLine or LB if we decide to continue ignoring the QB position.

    It's as if we focus extra hard on QBs, then it will make them extra better... 😵

    @tour2ma said:

    It's as if we focus extra hard on QBs, then it will make them extra better... 😵

    Almost every scout in America has 3 QBs in their top 20 players overall. How much better do they have to get?
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  • Flyin JF Flyin J

    @tour2ma said:

    It's as if we focus extra hard on QBs, then it will make them extra better... 😵

    Almost every scout in America has 3 QBs in their top 20 players overall. How much better do they have to get?

    XxDaBuckeyexX said:

    Almost every scout in America has 3 QBs in their top 20 players overall. How much better do they have to get?

    First, since we are at 4 and 26, what does top 20 have to do with it? Most of "almost every scout" have only one QB in the top 4 players.

    Then there's that other little problem... they can't seem to agree on which one is in the top 4. So it's not as much a matter of how much better "they have to get"; it's more a case of who is he?

    Apparently the scouts are just like us...

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  • Flyin JF Flyin J

    @cdl15 said:

    all hypothetical and not one fact bro.if manzieel was so good and a generational player then Bortles and Bridgewater skulls not be in the conversation for best qb in draft. Watkins looks like the next Fitzgerald doesn't that excite anyone??

    I never once said Manziel was a "generational" player. I like Manziel the best of the three, but right now im not opposed to any of em. Lets say we draft Watkins. We get him for 4 years. If he lives up to the billing of the number 4 pick, how do we resign him? We cant pay him and Gordon number 1 money, which means we let one walk after their rookie deal, and were right back to needing a number 2. Id rather go OLine or LB if we decide to continue ignoring the QB position.

    XxDaBuckeyexX said:

    I never once said Manziel was a "generational" player. I like Manziel the best of the three, but right now im not opposed to any of em. Lets say we draft Watkins. We get him for 4 years. If he lives up to the billing of the number 4 pick, how do we resign him? We cant pay him and Gordon number 1 money, which means we let one walk after their rookie deal, and were right back to needing a number 2. Id rather go OLine or LB if we decide to continue ignoring the QB position.

    then y draft one of these Qbs at all. Sorry bub u draft a guy at 4 he better be the real deal and seeing how 100% of almost every single analysist can not agree on which one is better than the other really makes me gun shy of all of them. Hell the way I see it Carr is 1 combine, a couple of interviews, and a solid team workout from being projected better than all of them. Are u gonna jump on poetics bandwagon if this happens??? Watkins will still be projected as best wr in draft. And No Gordon and this years draft picks free agency period will be no where near each other. Isn't Gordon a free agent after 2014 anyways? Signing free agents aint as hard as it used to be anyways. Again this franchise should not be taken the 2nd or 3rd qb off the board at #4. That's the Retarded shit we did last year.
    "We are Americans. We don't quit doing something because it's wrong. We just keep doing the wrong thing till it turns out right." Browns maybe the most American Football team ever.
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