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Bring Schaub to Cleveland?

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  • R RoyceRolls wrote on
    #1

    This is for those "there's no QB worth drafting" guys. Schaub is 32 years old, and I believe he still has something left in the tank (he only played two games his first 3 years in the league). He had a bad year last year, but are we supposed to believe that he can't bounce back? Last year Phillip Rivers, who was drafted the same year as Schaub, had a big bounce back year after a few disappointing seasons. A change of scenery could be good for Schaub, especially if reunited with his former OC Kyle Shanahan.

    In two years under Shanahan Schaub completed 67% of his passes while throwing for over 7800 yards and 44 TDs to 25 Ints. Yes, he was considerably younger then, but like I said, a 32 year old QB with a proven track record certainly deserves the benefit of the doubt. So here is the scenario. The Browns sign Schaub, freeing up the first round to upgrade other positions on the offense and the first round plays out like #4 Watkins, #26 Yankey. Later in the draft the RB position is addressed and the Offense is instantly a contender.

    Schaub throwing to Gordon (Andre Johnson comparison) Watkins, Cameron, possibly a late round addition like Hazel or Washington, and Benjamin, playing behind a better offensive line (even before the upgrades through the draft) and hopefully getting good production out of a revamped running game.

    I'm not saying this is what the Browns should do, but I'd certainly be open to this option, as long as the Browns could land him for a reasonable price. I believe this scenario would give the Browns a top ten offense and potentially 3-4 playoff appearances. Not a bad place to start IMO.

    for those of you who will post "this is a dogshit idea" lets hear why it is, and what would be the better route to take.

    Tour2maT 1 Reply
  • C Clevfan4life wrote on
    #2

    Is he a FA? If not, I don't know if we want to trade anything for him....unless of course Houston would be so inclined to take #3 off our hands, that i'm all for.

  • R RoyceRolls wrote on
    #3

    Yeah, I guess I got ahead of myself, Houston hasn't cut him yet. If Houston does go a different direction at QB they'll have to cut him unless they find a team who is still willing to pay him what he's due (good luck).

    If the Texans designate Schaub as a post-June 1 cut, the cap charge in 2014 would be $3.5 million. In 2015, $7 million in dead money would apply. The Texans also would avoid paying Schaub $10 million next season by cutting him, along with another $1 million in total per-game roster bonuses.

  • miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on
    #4

    swap him with weeden, work out the money later.

  • R RoyceRolls

    This is for those "there's no QB worth drafting" guys. Schaub is 32 years old, and I believe he still has something left in the tank (he only played two games his first 3 years in the league). He had a bad year last year, but are we supposed to believe that he can't bounce back? Last year Phillip Rivers, who was drafted the same year as Schaub, had a big bounce back year after a few disappointing seasons. A change of scenery could be good for Schaub, especially if reunited with his former OC Kyle Shanahan.

    In two years under Shanahan Schaub completed 67% of his passes while throwing for over 7800 yards and 44 TDs to 25 Ints. Yes, he was considerably younger then, but like I said, a 32 year old QB with a proven track record certainly deserves the benefit of the doubt. So here is the scenario. The Browns sign Schaub, freeing up the first round to upgrade other positions on the offense and the first round plays out like #4 Watkins, #26 Yankey. Later in the draft the RB position is addressed and the Offense is instantly a contender.

    Schaub throwing to Gordon (Andre Johnson comparison) Watkins, Cameron, possibly a late round addition like Hazel or Washington, and Benjamin, playing behind a better offensive line (even before the upgrades through the draft) and hopefully getting good production out of a revamped running game.

    I'm not saying this is what the Browns should do, but I'd certainly be open to this option, as long as the Browns could land him for a reasonable price. I believe this scenario would give the Browns a top ten offense and potentially 3-4 playoff appearances. Not a bad place to start IMO.

    for those of you who will post "this is a dogshit idea" lets hear why it is, and what would be the better route to take.

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on
    #5

    @roycerolls said:

    The Browns sign Schaub, freeing up the first round to upgrade other positions on the offense and the first round plays out like #4 Watkins, #26 Yankey. Later in the draft the RB position is addressed and the Offense is instantly a contender.

    I like everything except the Schaub part...

    Seriously, you make a great case on paper, but you must not have seen him play much. He made some decisions that were Wheezy bad.... I shit you not.

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  • cambridgehoC cambridgeho wrote on
    #6

    Please no. He has no more confidence in his ability. You used to be damn good, but he is a shell of himself now.

  • darren15D darren15 wrote on
    #7

    This has the Jake Delhomme factor all over it ......past his best QB looking for one last payday

  • miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on
    #8

    well he does have the down system in his genes.

    i would think wheez does too.

    just cut weeden already. i don't know how you are going to showcase the guy between now and the draft. i don't even want him as a backup.

  • Z Zombo wrote on
    #9

    Ya, it's Delhomme redux. He's shot.

    Z

  • jcam222J jcam222 wrote on
    #10

    I would take him on the cheap IF he were willing to sit behind Hoyer and a draft pick without being a headcase. Then if he lights it up in the preseason who knows.

  • R RoyceRolls wrote on
    #11

    okay, so one bad year erases the pro bowl year he had before it, got it...

    Z W Tim Couch Pulls OutT 3 Replies
  • R RoyceRolls

    okay, so one bad year erases the pro bowl year he had before it, got it...

    Z Zombo wrote on
    #12

    @roycerolls said:

    okay, so one bad year erases the pro bowl year he had before it, got it...

    It was an awful, head case year. It was painful to watch him. He fell off a cliff.

    Zombo

  • R RoyceRolls

    okay, so one bad year erases the pro bowl year he had before it, got it...

    W Westside Steve wrote on
    #13

    @roycerolls said:

    okay, so one bad year erases the pro bowl year he had before it, got it...

    DA?

    (Not you Gipper)

    WSS

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  • bbedwardB bbedward wrote on
    #14

    Definitely no to Schaub.

    His year wasn't just a down year it was an abysmal year. He couldn't handle the heat from the Houston fan base imagine the Cleveland one.

    I'd prefer to find our own guy. The only way I'd be cool with Schaub is if he'd come in as a backup.

  • Flyin JF Flyin J wrote on
    #15

    Houston had HUGE pass protection problems. I believe we'd have a better chance at the playoffs with him next year, than anyone on the roster or anyone we could draft. If we sign him to a deal similar to Campbells Id be all for it. Still draft a guy in the 2nd or 3rd. Schaub, Hoyer, Garrapollo/Mettenberger sounds like an interesting competition.

  • jrb12711J jrb12711 wrote on
    #16

    There's a lot of examples of guys like Schaub in recent memory, some were Cleveland Browns. McNabb, Culpepper, Delhomme, Kyle Orton, Hasslebeck are all names that come off the top of my head. The point I'm making here is that most QB's just start to break down when they get to Schaub's age. Very few QB's play at an elite Manning type level once they hit their mid 30's. Schaub was good for many years but it's plain to see he's past his prime. He's got a good 2-3 years left as a back-up but that's it. If we brought him to start it'd be another sad year of mediocre QB play.

  • W Westside Steve wrote on
    #17

    Not only that but most winning teams aren't desperate to pick up aging quarterback from the scrap yard.

    WSS

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  • W Westside Steve

    Not only that but most winning teams aren't desperate to pick up aging quarterback from the scrap yard.

    WSS

    Flyin JF Flyin J wrote on
    #18

    @westside-steve said:

    Not only that but most winning teams aren't desperate to pick up aging quarterback from the scrap yard.

    WSS

    all winning teams are not named The Browns.
    W 1 Reply
  • R RoyceRolls

    okay, so one bad year erases the pro bowl year he had before it, got it...

    Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out wrote on
    #19

    @roycerolls said:

    okay, so one bad year erases the pro bowl year he had before it, got it...

    Yes, it does.

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  • LBC mikeL LBC mike wrote on
    #20

    Has there been a QB who had a horrible year and bounced back to form to anyones memory?

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