Lombardi and Banner gone, Farmer new GM
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I'm now 100% sure he's talking about Derek Carr when he's talking about the QB position.
Carr at #4 overall, eh. Carr at #26 would be ideal, but, he's not sure he'll be available the next time they pick.
...just my observation...
I'm now 100% sure he's talking about Derek Carr when he's talking about the QB position.
Carr at #4 overall, eh. Carr at #26 would be ideal, but, he's not sure he'll be available the next time they pick.
...just my observation...
For some reason the first person that came to mind was Garoppolo.
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"A: I'd say that No. 4 is not necessarily where I would take the guy that I like. Again, it may not be the name that everybody thinks is the latest, greatest, and the easy one to spot. There's definitely an art to selecting people in the draft and it's finding the right name that fits who you want to be."
Damn, this whole Christmas in February thing just keeps getting better. No Johnny Scramble at 4, and certainly no trading picks to move up to 1 to get him. Just pick the best player available............. There is a Santa Claus.
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"A: I'd say that No. 4 is not necessarily where I would take the guy that I like. Again, it may not be the name that everybody thinks is the latest, greatest, and the easy one to spot. There's definitely an art to selecting people in the draft and it's finding the right name that fits who you want to be."
Damn, this whole Christmas in February thing just keeps getting better. No Johnny Scramble at 4, and certainly no trading picks to move up to 1 to get him. Just pick the best player available............. There is a Santa Claus.
"A: I'd say that No. 4 is not necessarily where I would take the guy that I like. Again, it may not be the name that everybody thinks is the latest, greatest, and the easy one to spot. There's definitely an art to selecting people in the draft and it's finding the right name that fits who you want to be."
Damn, this whole Christmas in February thing just keeps getting better. No Johnny Scramble at 4, and certainly no trading picks to move up to 1 to get him. Just pick the best player available............. There is a Santa Claus.
Watkins it is or Clowney
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Farmer has given us NO indication whether or not pick# 4 will be QB, DE, WR, ILB, etc, trade up, trade down.....whatever!...and I don't believe there's a damn one of us on this board more qualified than Farmer & his Staff.
I assume NOTHING until it happens, but it's fun reading & watching all the speculation. For damn sure this process is in far better hands than it was a scant week ago. I can trust the "builders" we now have in place. Again, "we'll see".
Mike
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Zombo said:
Good read.
Yes, it was...
The tinfoil in my head whispers...
Just keep it away from your fillings...
I don't think the two statements are a conflict at all. Farmer's statement is based in the future of the club and Pettine's is in the here and now. Of course Pettine WANTS the right guys to run his system, but he understands that he can't just blink his eyes and have the perfect personnel in place. He knows that he's going to have to build the scheme around the talent that is already in place while farmer finds the guys that fit his system. Coaches need to be able to adapt to what they have at their disposal, and until the right personnel is in place he'll have to figure out how to make due.
Beat me to it...
Clowney is by and large the best athlete and it's really not even close.
May well be the case, but I still do not see him standing up in a 3-4. If we're to be a 4-3 D, then bring him on unless...
Do you have any concerns about his "motor"?
Haslam was/is a Rookie Owner.
Keeps coming up, but he was a minority owner to the SE of our town. Not a hands on position to be sure, but has to have exposed him to something.
May well be the case, but I still do not see him standing up in a 3-4. If we're to be a 4-3 D, then bring him on unless...
Do you have any concerns about his "motor"?
Werner was one of the best 4-3 DE's in football the year before and he's made the switch to the hybrid pretty well. He got alot of playing time during the Colts playoff run subbing in for Mathis. I see zero reason why Clowney can't also be a hybrid. Infact, he's the prototype guy that can play both positions.
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Farmer has given us NO indication whether or not pick# 4 will be QB, DE, WR, ILB, etc, trade up, trade down.....whatever!...and I don't believe there's a damn one of us on this board more qualified than Farmer & his Staff.
I assume NOTHING until it happens, but it's fun reading & watching all the speculation. For damn sure this process is in far better hands than it was a scant week ago. I can trust the "builders" we now have in place. Again, "we'll see".
Mike
I don't believe there's a damn one of us on this board more qualified than Farmer & his Staff.
Mike
But Mike ......................... I have a Magic Eightball, lucky dice, half a Tarot deck and Google. Are you telling me that's not good enough?? LOL just kidding Mike
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I don't believe there's a damn one of us on this board more qualified than Farmer & his Staff.
Mike
But Mike ......................... I have a Magic Eightball, lucky dice, half a Tarot deck and Google. Are you telling me that's not good enough?? LOL just kidding Mike
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I'd go watkins or manziel. But that depends who's available.
If watkins is taken, any of Bortles/Bridgewater/Manziel might still be available.
We have zero NFL caliber receivers behind Gordon, that's a problem in addition to QB and RB.
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well we all know we aren't dumb enough (anymore) to even look a RB until the 3rd, correct?
WR depth in this draft is pretty impressive so we could also grab a guy in the 2nd.
i wouldn't be at all surprised if we traded down a couple of spots if someone was ringing the phone off the hook and 'their' guys aren't there.
i would address CB with our 2nd pick. but that's all i've been saying for 4 years now.
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Grab Watkins, the best player in the draft, and move on....
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Formerly Sane said:
I always said Joe Banner was the best hire the Browns ever made. Why? Because he knew how to make a football team successful in a city that was a complete and total disaster like Cleveland and Philly. Just for fun, look up the worst (worst crime, worst schools, worst city management, etc.) cities in the US and you will see that it represents the NFL's worst organizations.
Nobody in their right mind wants to work in these cities when they have a choice......Joe Banner made the Eagles successful in spite of Philly being one the countries worst cities.
I love Philadelphia. It's a classy city, unlike Shitsburgh.
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Formerly Sane said:
I always said Joe Banner was the best hire the Browns ever made. Why? Because he knew how to make a football team successful in a city that was a complete and total disaster like Cleveland and Philly. Just for fun, look up the worst (worst crime, worst schools, worst city management, etc.) cities in the US and you will see that it represents the NFL's worst organizations.
Nobody in their right mind wants to work in these cities when they have a choice......Joe Banner made the Eagles successful in spite of Philly being one the countries worst cities.
I love Philadelphia. It's a classy city, unlike Shitsburgh.
I love Philadelphia. It's a classy city, unlike Shitsburgh.
Philly is a great place.
But we can use the diversity here, I guess, glad to see somebody sucking joe banners dick.
WSS
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philly is great if you're a tourist and not wearing anything sports related anti-philly.
they are the worse fans in america by far. they do bottle-gate every sunday and have a courtroom, judge and jail inside the football stadium itself.
real nice.
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Clowney or Watkins at 4 .....grab QB to sit behind Hoyer later in draft .....
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Formerly Sane said:
I always said Joe Banner was the best hire the Browns ever made. Why? Because he knew how to make a football team successful in a city that was a complete and total disaster like Cleveland and Philly. Just for fun, look up the worst (worst crime, worst schools, worst city management, etc.) cities in the US and you will see that it represents the NFL's worst organizations.
Nobody in their right mind wants to work in these cities when they have a choice......Joe Banner made the Eagles successful in spite of Philly being one the countries worst cities.
Can't be the case because Pittsburgh....one of the worst cities going, does not have one of the worst organizations. It is just a place to stop for gas between Chicago/Detroit/Cleveland and Philly. 🥷
And here is where you get a clue: If Joe Banner had continued to do things the way he did in Philly, then maybe it would have worked out here to.....but he went way beyond his limitations. He tried to take control of the entire football operations. Now, Banner may have been a great Haberdasher, and even a very good NFL money manager. But he was not a football guy, and probably should not have tried to be one, and he should not have tried to usurp the authority of those football men in charge.
And his worst sin: He failed to keep his owner happy. The owner apparently saw that a good deal of the reason for the failure of this team since he took over could be laid at the doorstep of Banner and how he wanted to control things. So, if you don't keep your boss happy, then it cannot be said that he was successful...either on or off the field.
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Formerly Sane said:
But you see, you allow your clouded vision of Pittsburgh to make you jump to very poor conclusions. Pittsburgh is a bad city ONLY in the mind of Browns fans because to believe otherwise would be more than a Browns fan can handle.
I agree with this: the thing that makes Pittsburgh a bad city is the fact that it has Steeler fans in it.
And, by the way....it is the same with you. The ONLY thing that makes Cleveland bad is in your mind because your prejudice toward it because there are Browns fans here that bitch slap you on a frequent basis. I understand from that perspective how things can be distorted for you.
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Formerly Sane said:
Browns fans provide some of the best entertainment in the area. My perception of Cleveland is .....well.....it's Cleveland; and that is well documented. Cleveland's shortcomings as a city are well documented in too many places to count. Pittsburgh's shortcoming are imagined in the minds of Browns fans. Big difference.
I have been to both and Cleveland and Pittsburgh are two peas in a pod. If you think that one town is really better than the other then you are just doing it to stroke your ego.....or something else.
The only thing that Pittsburgh has on Cleveland is that somewhat more recently it has won some silly sports titles.
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Philadelphia considers Pittsburgh a redneck, inbred, Western PA shithole. I know, my daughter lives in Philadelphia. They look down on you like a person looking down on a fresh turd about to be flushed.
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Formerly Sane said:
First of all you are either a bold faced liar or you prefer nasty cities; the two cities are night and day in every way. Secondly, saying that Pittsburgh has somewhat recently won some silly sports titles is like saying the Titanic sank from from hitting a somewhat chilly patch of water.
Great two line retort. Why don't you educate us with your wisdom oh great Shitsburgh guru. What exactly as a city in terms of attractions, dining or culture does Shitsburgh have that Cleveland does not.
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Formerly Sane,
I work in both Pittsburgh and Cleveland. I am quite literally in each of those cities multiple times per week (at least twice per city per week). I also have the benefit of having lived in other cities in other states (San Antonio, San Fran, D.C., Baltimore, Honolulu, etc.), so I have some outside form of reference. Believe me, sir, Pittsburgh and Cleveland are not "night and day" in possibly any way.
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