Doerschuk: Browns will avoid Clowney.
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Lol. Didn't I see somewhere that Mike H writes professionally?
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@mike-h said:
Blah blah, blah blah blah blah, blah blah.... Blah blah blah blah, blah, blah blah blah blah!
Blah blah.
uh huh, you know I'm right. And it's precisely what teams like Texas want us to do. They want to bait us to move up so that they still pick at #4 and get exactly who they want and get our indy pick. Nice FO material you are there bro.
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@mike-h said:
Blah blah, blah blah blah blah, blah blah.... Blah blah blah blah, blah, blah blah blah blah!
Blah blah.
uh huh, you know I'm right. And it's precisely what teams like Texas want us to do. They want to bait us to move up so that they still pick at #4 and get exactly who they want and get our indy pick. Nice FO material you are there bro.
and get our indy pick.
and next years 1st rounder and blah blah blah we know how this story ends. With yet another early 1st round pick starting under center in year one and two years later selling used cars somewhere in Tennessee.
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and get our indy pick.
and next years 1st rounder and blah blah blah we know how this story ends. With yet another early 1st round pick starting under center in year one and two years later selling used cars somewhere in Tennessee.
and next years 1st rounder and blah blah blah we know how this story ends. With yet another early 1st round pick starting under center in year one and two years later selling used cars somewhere in Tennessee.
and a severe case of PTSD
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Clowney hasn't done anything to deserve to even be mentioned in the same breath as Lawrence taylor
@mike-h said:
No winning teams select 10 rookies during the draft who make their roster. Try harder.
Virtually no team selects every draft pick that makes their roster. Saftey in numbers.No winning team selects 4 HOFers in one draft either, right?
Clowney hasn't done anything to deserve to even be mentioned in the same breath as Lawrence taylor
Would you mention Derrick Thomas instead?
@mike-h said:
T Rich and Weeden.
And I never said 10 drafted players starting. I said, clearly, 10 drafted players won't make the roster. The Browns are already the second youngest team in the NFL and you assholes want to keep turning over 21 Year old players.
You don't need 10 rookies. They will pick up 2 or 3 UDFA that stick if theyre worth a shit at evaluating takent.
So you want 13 / 53 man roster to be rookies. Youngest team in the NFL easily with that. What 13 players do you cut?
And you don't sign any FAs with 40+ million in cap stace.
SOME OF THOSE 10 PICKS ARE GOING TO BE TRADED, LIVE WITH IT.
Ohhh, such brilliacnce Mike. As others said- for future considerations.
I suspect you are right that some of those 10 picks will be traded. Contrary to what many think though I do not think it will be to move up in the top of the 1st round. I can see us doing something to move back into bottom of the 2nd or perhaps even push our #26 higher into the 1st round. Beyond that I think you will see picks traded for picks in next years draft. Farmer made a comment to that effect recently in an interview when asked about the 10 picks and the FA money. He basically said just because we have 10 picks doesn't mean we have to use them all this year. I am fine with that.
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Lol. Didn't I see somewhere that Mike H writes professionally?
Lol. Didn't I see somewhere that Mike H writes professionally?
I think he used to be scout and personal assistant to Mike Ditka and helped him put together the Ricky Williams trade.
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@mike-h said:
SOME OF THOSE 10 PICKS ARE GOING TO BE TRADED, LIVE WITH IT.
yes, but they shouldn't be traded to move up past the 4th pick, why? cause those teams are going to want next years 1st rounder plus the indy pick plus possibly other late round picks along with all newbords born in Cleveland for the next 15 months. Package some of the later picks, fine. But do what the Redskins did to get RG? no fucking way. And you're Retarded if that's what you want us to do. I think Clowneys hands down the best player in the draft but I don't want us to trade up for him let along any of the qb prospects.
yes, but they shouldn't be traded to move up past the 4th pick, why? cause those teams are going to want next years 1st rounder plus the indy pick plus possibly other late round picks along with all newbords born in Cleveland for the next 15 months. Package some of the later picks, fine. But do what the Redskins did to get RG? no fucking way. And you're Retarded if that's what you want us to do. I think Clowneys hands down the best player in the draft but I don't want us to trade up for him let along any of the qb prospects.
Agreed. The best player in the draft could just as easily be there at fourth overall as in the top three. There is no clear-cut top pick, so it would be foolish to use the picks in that way.
Some of the other ten could be used to attempt to snap up some usable depth for next season. In fact, I certainly hope they are.
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clowney is the best athlete in the draft barr none.
i thought we already explained why he took last season off.
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According to his Twitter page even if their QB is gone the Browns will avoid Clowney.
I myself am all for Manziel but this pre draft rumor stuff is such BS. The combine and private workouts haven't even happened not to mention the pro days. What if Clowney blows it up in the workouts and looks like a real freak and falls to us.
How the hell can a team be so dead set 3 months before the draft?
I can't stand the Cleveland media and all their bogus rumor reporting.
What if Clowney blows it up in the workouts and looks like a real freak and falls to us.
How the hell can a team be so dead set 3 months before the draft?
@walterwhite said:
Take away the hit against Michigan and I see a mid 1st round prospect.
He's got the talent but seems selective on when to use it.
He's like Albert Hanesworth 2.0 according to Steve Spurrior. His own damn coach threw him under the bus.
I am confused... Which is it?
- Clowney is being judged too early; or
- Clowney is overrated?
I fear the troll is strong in this one...
@mike-h said:
1. Clowney won't be available
2. None of you dicks have the balls to support a trade up
3. Therefore, This thread is moot cow poo
Wow... still on the rag as bad as ever. I thought in a week you'd have cooled down some.
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Virtually no team selects every draft pick that makes their roster. Saftey in numbers.No winning team selects 4 HOFers in one draft either, right?
The 1974 Steelers did....and though they had not won a SB yet, they had been making the playoffs. Recall the Immaculate Reception I believe was 1972...or 73...prior to their draft of Lambert/Webster/Swann etc.
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Lol. Didn't I see somewhere that Mike H writes professionally?
I think he used to be scout and personal assistant to Mike Ditka and helped him put together the Ricky Williams trade.
WSS
I think he used to be scout and personal assistant to Mike Ditka and helped him put together the Ricky Williams trade.
WSS
No, actually Mike H served as Ditkas "gum caddy". He would pre-chew Ditkas gum for him.
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I thought Mike H. was the young assistant janitor to the office
of an NFL scout,
who knew Mike Junkin, aka "mad dog in a meat market", was
the best player in the NFL draft ever, and knew that
everybody who didn't agree with him didn't know anything.
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I thought Mike H. was the young assistant janitor to the office
of an NFL scout,
who knew Mike Junkin, aka "mad dog in a meat market", was
the best player in the NFL draft ever, and knew that
everybody who didn't agree with him didn't know anything.
I thought Mike H. was the young assistant janitor to the office
of an NFL scout,
who knew Mike Junkin, aka "mad dog in a meat market", was
the best player in the NFL draft ever, and knew that
everybody who didn't agree with him didn't know anything.
Mike H is a legend in his own jock LOL
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We'd better not take Clowney. We don't need a DE.
We need a QB at the 4.
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Virtually no team selects every draft pick that makes their roster. Saftey in numbers.No winning team selects 4 HOFers in one draft either, right?
The 1974 Steelers did....and though they had not won a SB yet, they had been making the playoffs. Recall the Immaculate Reception I believe was 1972...or 73...prior to their draft of Lambert/Webster/Swann etc.
Virtually no team selects every draft pick that makes their roster. Saftey in numbers.No winning team selects 4 HOFers in one draft either, right?
The 1974 Steelers did....and though they had not won a SB yet, they had been making the playoffs. Recall the Immaculate Reception I believe was 1972...or 73...prior to their draft of Lambert/Webster/Swann etc.
You missed my sarcasm Gip- of course I knew that- just refuting MIke.
@mike-h said:
I have a full time job that pays extremely well, I get paid to write on the side.
My scouting training is basic, I took a course awhile ago. I'd say that instantly makes me more qualified than you, so yuck it up.
Yeah? So what? I took a course in Russian a few years back- that doesn't mean I can speak it worth a damn.
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We'd better not take Clowney. We don't need a DE.
We need a QB at the 4.
We'd better not take Clowney. We don't need a DE.
We need a QB at the 4.
if we move to a 4-3 we might.
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i wouldn't advocate trading up into that mix of the 3 spots in front of us for any player. even clowney.
but i do agree with MikeH that some of those picks will be traded, i mean the later round stuff means nothing unless you are lucky enough to find the next brady or terrelle davis. i could see us trading up in some of these rounds. it is a game of chess, right? sacrifice some pawns.
i'm really hoping that if farmer is thinking QB @4 the guy i hope lands there is bortles. if not clowney. not all that in love with watkins unless he is just one of two WRs we are targeting. we need a tall guy that can win those jump ball throws down the line and in the corner of the end zone.
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i wouldn't advocate trading up into that mix of the 3 spots in front of us for any player. even clowney.
but i do agree with MikeH that some of those picks will be traded, i mean the later round stuff means nothing unless you are lucky enough to find the next brady or terrelle davis. i could see us trading up in some of these rounds. it is a game of chess, right? sacrifice some pawns.
i'm really hoping that if farmer is thinking QB @4 the guy i hope lands there is bortles. if not clowney. not all that in love with watkins unless he is just one of two WRs we are targeting. we need a tall guy that can win those jump ball throws down the line and in the corner of the end zone.
we have a guy like that named Gordon. We need a slot type of guy. Someone who can get open quick. And we need another TE.i wouldn't advocate trading up into that mix of the 3 spots in front of us for any player. even clowney.
but i do agree with MikeH that some of those picks will be traded, i mean the later round stuff means nothing unless you are lucky enough to find the next brady or terrelle davis. i could see us trading up in some of these rounds. it is a game of chess, right? sacrifice some pawns.
i'm really hoping that if farmer is thinking QB @4 the guy i hope lands there is bortles. if not clowney. not all that in love with watkins unless he is just one of two WRs we are targeting. we need a tall guy that can win those jump ball throws down the line and in the corner of the end zone.
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we have a guy like that named Gordon. We need a slot type of guy. Someone who can get open quick. And we need another TE.i wouldn't advocate trading up into that mix of the 3 spots in front of us for any player. even clowney.
but i do agree with MikeH that some of those picks will be traded, i mean the later round stuff means nothing unless you are lucky enough to find the next brady or terrelle davis. i could see us trading up in some of these rounds. it is a game of chess, right? sacrifice some pawns.
i'm really hoping that if farmer is thinking QB @4 the guy i hope lands there is bortles. if not clowney. not all that in love with watkins unless he is just one of two WRs we are targeting. we need a tall guy that can win those jump ball throws down the line and in the corner of the end zone.
XxDaBuckeyexX said:
we have a guy like that named Gordon. We need a slot type of guy. Someone who can get open quick. And we need another TE.
Having two is nice though. Look at the Bears offense that torched small backfields all season.
I'd say we could use another TE. But it's not a high priority. I think Barnridge can be decent.
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