The Greatest QB in History. You Decide

[The Cysko Kid]

Too much for me to write out at this time. Good concept though. I cast my ultimate vote for Joe Montana

[Zombo]

Tom Brady vs. Jack Kemp

Joe Montana vs. Bob Waterfied

John Elway vs. Arnie Herber

Otto Graham vs. Ed Danowski

Peyton vs. Joe Namath

Terry Bradshaw vs. George Blanda

Bart Starr vs. Warren Moon

Sid Luckman vs. Dan Fouts

Brett Favre vs. Bernie Kosar

Sammy Baugh vs. Jim McMahon

Dan Marino vs. Bobby Layne

Troy Aikman vs. Tommy Thompson

Steve Young vs. Daryl Lamonica

Jim Kelly vs. Brad Johnson

John Unitas vs. Doug Williams

Roger Staubach vs. Steve McNair

Norm Van Brocklin vs. Mark Rypien

Frank Ryan vs. Donovan McNabb

Eli Manning vs. Trent Dilfer

Len Dawson vs. Jake Delhomme

Aaron Rodgers vs. Craig Morton

Fran Tarkenton vs. Danny White

Ben Roethlisberger vs. Earl Morrall

Bob Griese vs. Jeff Hostetler

Phil Simms vs. Phil Rivers

Kurt Warner vs. Ron Jaworski

Joe Flacco vs. Boomer Esiason

Ken Stabler vs. Tony Eason

Joe Theisman vs. Jim Plunkett

Tobin Rote vs. Y.A. Tittle

Kerry Collins vs. Neil O'Donnell

Randall Cunningham vs. Don Meredith

[Flyin J]

@the-gipper said:

Here is your chance to choose the "Greatest QB in history"....but I am going to do it like the NCAA basketball tournament. I am going to list 64 of the best QBs in history and match them against each other. We will have 32 matches in the first round, then 16, then 8, 4, 2, 1. And go from there.

Here are the initial matchups. Simply highlight which QB you think wins the match. After so many votes are cast, I will then declare winners and then announce the 2 round matchups:

Tom Brady◀ vs. Jack Kemp

Joe Montana◀ vs. Bob Waterfied

John Elway◀ vs. Arnie Herber

Otto Graham◀vs. Ed Danowski

Peyton ◀vs. Joe Namath

Terry Bradshaw◀ vs. George Blanda

Bart Starr ◀vs. Warren Moon

Sid Luckman◀ vs. Dan Fouts

Brett Favre◀ vs. Bernie Kosar

Sammy Baugh ◀vs. Jim McMahon

Dan Marino◀ vs. Bobby Layne

Troy Aikman◀ vs. Tommy Thompson

Steve Young◀ vs. Daryl Lamonica

Jim Kelly ◀vs. Brad Johnson

John Unitas◀ vs. Doug Williams

Roger Staubach◀ vs. Steve McNair

Norm Van Brocklin ◀vs. Mark Rypien

Frank Ryan ◀vs. Donovan McNabb

Eli Manning◀ vs. Trent Dilfer

Len Dawson◀ vs. Jake Delhomme

Aaron Rodgers ◀vs. Craig Morton

Fran Tarkenton◀ vs. Danny White

Ben Roethlisberger ◀vs. Earl Morrall

Bob Griese ◀vs. Jeff Hostetler

Phil Simms ◀vs. Phil Rivers

Kurt Warner◀ vs. Ron Jaworski

Joe Flacco vs. Boomer Esiason◀

Ken Stabler ◀vs. Tony Eason

Joe Theisman◀ vs. Jim Plunkett

Tobin Rote vs. Y.A. Tittle◀

Kerry Collins◀ vs. Neil O'Donnell

Randall Cunningham ◀vs. Don Meredith

[bbedward]

Zombo said:

Tom Brady vs. Jack Kemp

Joe Montana vs. Bob Waterfied

John Elway vs. Arnie Herber

Otto Graham vs. Ed Danowski

Peyton vs. Joe Namath

Terry Bradshaw vs. George Blanda

Bart Starr vs. Warren Moon

Sid Luckman vs. Dan Fouts

Brett Favre vs. Bernie Kosar

Sammy Baugh vs. Jim McMahon

Dan Marino vs. Bobby Layne

Troy Aikman vs. Tommy Thompson

Steve Young vs. Daryl Lamonica

Jim Kelly vs. Brad Johnson

John Unitas vs. Doug Williams

Roger Staubach vs. Steve McNair

Norm Van Brocklin vs. Mark Rypien

Frank Ryan vs. Donovan McNabb

Eli Manning vs. Trent Dilfer

Len Dawson vs. Jake Delhomme

Aaron Rodgers vs. Craig Morton

Fran Tarkenton vs. Danny White

Ben Roethlisberger vs. Earl Morrall

Bob Griese vs. Jeff Hostetler

Phil Simms vs. Phil Rivers

Kurt Warner vs. Ron Jaworski

Joe Flacco vs. Boomer Esiason

Ken Stabler vs. Tony Eason

Joe Theisman vs. Jim Plunkett

Tobin Rote vs. Y.A. Tittle

Kerry Collins vs. Neil O'Donnell

Randall Cunningham vs. Don Meredith

I agree exactly with Zombo. Next round will be more interesting.

[The Gipper]

@bbedward said:

I agree exactly with Zombo. Next round will be more interesting.

Yea, just like the NCAA, the #1 and 2 seeds don't have much trouble winning, but when you get down to the 8 vs. 9 that is a little tougher.

[The Gipper]

@the-cysko-kid said:

Too much for me to write out at this time. Good concept though. I cast my ultimate vote for Joe Montana

Lazy ass. You didn't have to write anything. Just highlight. You can come back an vote for Joe again....if he makes it that far, but for now, your vote is disallowed.

[Zombo]

I considered one big upset, Moon over Starr, but in the end I went with leadership over production in that case.

Zombo

[The Cysko Kid]

It's not as easy as all that on the phone. If I were on a computer I could have complied

[The Gipper]

@the-gipper said:

Here is your chance to choose the "Greatest QB in history"....but I am going to do it like the NCAA basketball tournament. I am going to list 64 of the best QBs in history and match them against each other. We will have 32 matches in the first round, then 16, then 8, 4, 2, 1. And go from there.

Here are the initial matchups. Simply highlight which QB you think wins the match. After so many votes are cast, I will then declare winners and then announce the 2 round matchups:

MY vote:

Tom Brady vs. Jack Kemp

Joe Montana vs. Bob Waterfied

John Elway vs. Arnie Herber

Otto Graham vs. Ed Danowski

Peyton vs. Joe Namath

Terry Bradshaw vs. George Blanda

Bart Starr vs. Warren Moon

Sid Luckman vs. Dan Fouts

Brett Favre vs. Bernie Kosar

Sammy Baugh vs. Jim McMahon

Dan Marino vs. Bobby Layne

Troy Aikman vs. Tommy Thompson

Steve Young vs. Daryl Lamonica

Jim Kelly vs. Brad Johnson

John Unitas vs. Doug Williams

Roger Staubach vs. Steve McNair

Norm Van Brocklin vs. Mark Rypien

Frank Ryan vs. Donovan McNabb

Eli Manning vs. Trent Dilfer

Len Dawson vs. Jake Delhomme

Aaron Rodgers vs. Craig Morton

Fran Tarkenton vs. Danny White

Ben Roethlisberger vs. Earl Morrall

Bob Griese vs. Jeff Hostetler

Phil Simms vs. Phil Rivers

Kurt Warner vs. Ron Jaworski

Joe Flacco vs. Boomer Esiason

Ken Stabler vs. Tony Eason

Joe Theisman vs. Jim Plunkett

Tobin Rote vs. Y.A. Tittle

Kerry Collins vs. Neil O'Donnell

Randall Cunningham vs. Don Meredith

[The Gipper]

@the-cysko-kid said:

It's not as easy as all that on the phone. If I were on a computer I could have complied

Oh, OK.

[The Gipper]

So far the main horse races are Ryan vs. McNabb, Simms vs. Rivers, Flacco vs. Esiason

[Flyin J]

@the-cysko-kid said:

It's not as easy as all that on the phone. If I were on a computer I could have complied

im on a phone as well. Just hit quote and go put an arrow by the names....took me 2 min

[cambridgeho]

@the-gipper said:

*Tom Brady vs. Jack Kemp

*Joe Montana vs. Bob Waterfied

*John Elway vs. Arnie Herber

*Otto Graham vs. Ed Danowski

*Peyton vs. Joe Namath

Terry Bradshaw vs. *George Blanda

Bart Starr vs. *Warren Moon

Sid Luckman vs. *Dan Fouts

*Brett Favre vs. Bernie Kosar

*Sammy Baugh vs. Jim McMahon

*Dan Marino vs. Bobby Layne

*Troy Aikman vs. Tommy Thompson

*Steve Young vs. Daryl Lamonica , I liked Lamonica

*Jim Kelly vs. Brad Johnson

*John Unitas vs. Doug Williams

*Roger Staubach vs. Steve McNair

Norm Van Brocklin vs. *Mark Rypien

Frank Ryan vs. *Donovan McNabb

*Eli Manning vs. Trent Dilfer

*Len Dawson vs. Jake Delhomme

*Aaron Rodgers vs. Craig Morton

*Fran Tarkenton vs. Danny White

*Ben Roethlisberger vs. Earl Morrall

Bob Griese vs. *Jeff Hostetler

Phil Simms vs. *Phil Rivers

*Kurt Warner vs. Ron Jaworski

Joe Flacco vs. *Boomer Esiason

*Ken Stabler vs. Tony Eason

Joe Theisman vs. *Jim Plunkett

Tobin Rote vs. *Y.A. Tittle

*Kerry Collins vs. Neil O'Donnell

*Randall Cunningham vs. Don Meredith

very interesting match ups,

[Westside Steve]

Brian Fucking Sipe.

WSS

[Bob806]

@the-gipper said:

Here is your chance to choose the "Greatest QB in history"....but I am going to do it like the NCAA basketball tournament. I am going to list 64 of the best QBs in history and match them against each other. We will have 32 matches in the first round, then 16, then 8, 4, 2, 1. And go from there.

Here are the initial matchups. Simply highlight which QB you think wins the match. After so many votes are cast, I will then declare winners and then announce the 2 round matchups:

Tom Brady vs. Jack Kemp

Joe Montana vs. Bob Waterfied

John Elway vs. Arnie Herber

Otto Graham vs. Ed Danowski

Peyton vs. Joe Namath

Terry Bradshaw vs. George Blanda

Bart Starr vs. Warren Moon

Sid Luckman vs. Dan Fouts

Brett Favre vs. Bernie Kosar

Sammy Baugh vs. Jim McMahon

Dan Marino vs. Bobby Layne

Troy Aikman vs. Tommy Thompson

Steve Young vs. Daryl Lamonica

Jim Kelly vs. Brad Johnson

John Unitas vs. Doug Williams

Roger Staubach vs. Steve McNair

Norm Van Brocklin vs. Mark Rypien

Frank Ryan vs. Donovan McNabb

Eli Manning vs. Trent Dilfer

Len Dawson vs. Jake Delhomme

Aaron Rodgers vs. Craig Morton

Fran Tarkenton vs. Danny White

Ben Roethlisberger vs. Earl Morrall

Bob Griese vs. Jeff Hostetler

Phil Simms vs. Phil Rivers

Kurt Warner vs. Ron Jaworski

Joe Flacco vs. Boomer Esiason

Ken Stabler vs. Tony Eason

Joe Theisman vs. Jim Plunkett

Tobin Rote vs. Y.A. Tittle

Kerry Collins vs. Neil O'Donnell

Randall Cunningham vs. Don Meredith

[The Gipper]

@westside-steve said:

Brian Fucking Sipe.

WSS

Because he never won a single playoff game he didn't make the 64 man cut.

[nickers]

I think its really hard to call one man the greatest as much as the game changes..Id prefer to say "greatest per era" makes more sense.

[The Cysko Kid]

@the-gipper said:

Tom Brady< vs. Jack Kemp

Joe Montana «vs. Bob Waterfied

John Elway«vs. Arnie Herber

Otto Graham «vs. Ed Danowski

Peyton «vs. Joe Namath

Terry Bradshaw «vs. George Blanda

Bart Starr vs. »Warren Moon

Sid Luckman vs.» Dan Fouts

Brett Favre« vs. Bernie Kosar

Sammy Baugh vs. »Jim McMahon

Dan Marino« vs. Bobby Layne

Troy Aikman« vs. Tommy Thompson

Steve Young« vs. Daryl Lamonica

Jim Kelly« vs. Brad Johnson

John Unitas« vs. Doug Williams

Roger Staubach« vs. Steve McNair

Norm Van Brocklin« vs. Mark Rypien

Frank Ryan vs. »Donovan McNabb

Eli Manning« vs. Trent Dilfer

Len Dawson «vs. Jake Delhomme

Aaron Rodgers« vs. Craig Morton

Fran Tarkenton« vs. Danny White

Ben Roethlisberger« vs. Earl Morrall

Bob Griese «vs. Jeff Hostetler

Phil Simms «vs. Phil Rivers

Kurt Warner« vs. Ron Jaworski

Joe Flacco« vs. Boomer Esiason

Ken Stabler« vs. Tony Eason

Joe Theisman« vs. Jim Plunkett

Tobin Rote vs. »Y.A. Tittle

Kerry Collins «vs. Neil O'Donnell

Randall Cunningham« vs. Don Meredith

[miktoxic]

greatest QB in my time, brian fucking sipe!

(cheers WSS!)

[The Gipper]

Sorry guys, but Sipe didn't make the 64 man cut. Start with the fact that he never QBd a team to a playoff victory in his career. For the Browns, at least that means he didn't match up with Otto Graham, Frank Ryan, Bill Nelsen, Bernie Kosar, and even Vinny Testaverde. Beyond that here is where he ranks in certain statistical categories all time:

Completions: 68th

Yards: 75th

TDs: 75th

Passer rating: 117th

YPG: 64th

Y/Att.: 106th

Comp. %: 105

Int. %: 142

TD%: 75th

Game winning drives: 34th

Comebacks: 38th

Those last two help, but don't put him into the round of 64.