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  • MLD Woody MLD WoodyM Dedicated Conversation Starter Very Popular First Post Collaborator Posting Machine Reacting Well One Month Later One Year In Week One Done
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    MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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    He is saying that if you are making the argument to just not be involved with guns because you disagree, then you can just not be involved with any abortion. If you can just ignore guns because you want stricter gun laws then just ignore abortion because you think it shouldn't be a thing.

    Abortion, by the way, seems like another issues where science takes the back seat to religion. Specifically science takes a back seat to a two thousand year old book. As long as that is how we are deciding public policy... ugh...

    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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      I make it real simple for all of you: FUCK. GUN. cONTROL. It's just a fancy term for seizing more control over your god given life and leads to one thing: confiscation. Americans have there heads so far up there goddamn asses they can't see the light one iota. This country is headed straight down the shitter folks abd the big banks and global elite are behind it all. Open your fucking eyes and see that your military (look it up it's all documented) is prepping for this countries eventual collapse. Your government is run almost entirely on exrctuive fiat nowadays. Your vote means dick in presidential election because the two candidates who have any shot at winning are handpicked and groomed years before to buttfuck you and lie to you. Your legislature is a sloppy mess of shady backroom deals, fake partisanship, midnight votes on bills that are not even presented in their entirety to be scrutinized prior to voting(see bank bailoht), and rampant I insider trading and corruption. Your entire future has been moetaged into a multi multi trillion dollar black hole (the quoted figures for our national debt are way off). Your entire economy runs off of fake derivative speculation abd FED printed stimulus money that acts as a temporary prop up for the big banks that will one day intentionally be withdrawn to cause the most massive economic collapse this country has ever seen. Your children are being molded into Marxist snitches by the very public schooling system your fucking hard earned money pays for. Do I need to keep going?

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        MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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        So scary

        Much worry

        Very afraid

        Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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          He is saying that if you are making the argument to just not be involved with guns because you disagree, then you can just not be involved with any abortion. If you can just ignore guns because you want stricter gun laws then just ignore abortion because you think it shouldn't be a thing.

          Abortion, by the way, seems like another issues where science takes the back seat to religion. Specifically science takes a back seat to a two thousand year old book. As long as that is how we are deciding public policy... ugh...

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          T The Cysko Kid wrote on last edited by
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          @mld-woody said:

          He is saying that if you are making the argument to just not be involved with guns because you disagree, then you can just not be involved with any abortion. If you can just ignore guns because you want stricter gun laws then just ignore abortion because you think it shouldn't be a thing.

          Abortion, by the way, seems like another issues where science takes the back seat to religion. Specifically science takes a back seat to a two thousand year old book. As long as that is how we are deciding public policy... ugh...

          Yes murder of the unborn shouldn't even be a thing. I mean fuck them they can't complain they're unborn. Amirite?

          Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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            MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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            An embryo is not a person.

            Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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              VaporTrailV VaporTrail wrote on last edited by
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              I'm saying that "you don't like x, don't do x," is a shit poor argument.

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                I'm saying that "you don't like x, don't do x," is a shit poor argument.

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                Browns149B Browns149 wrote on last edited by
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                @vaportrail said:

                I'm saying that "you don't like x, don't do x," is a shit poor argument.

                Why is that a poor argument?

                I don't like coffee so I don't drink it.

                "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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                  @vaportrail said:

                  I'm saying that "you don't like x, don't do x," is a shit poor argument.

                  Why is that a poor argument?

                  I don't like coffee so I don't drink it.

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                  VaporTrailV VaporTrail wrote on last edited by
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                  @browns149 said:

                  Why is that a poor argument?

                  I don't like coffee so I don't drink it.

                  It's a poor argument when it applies to legal policy.

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                    C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                    Should we outlaw picked beets because libs don't like them?

                    If you don't like beets, don't buy them or eat them, your choice.

                    Guns? Same thing.

                    Abortion? The innocence of unborn and born children - they have a right to life.

                    Libs always thinks what is convenient for them, is the only right that is valid.

                    A fetus may not be a fully devoped person...then so, a week old child isn't either.

                    But libs go with "guns kill people" .... then they demand the right to murder unborn children.

                    Abortionists kill unborn and born people. People kill people.

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                      An embryo is not a person.

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                      @mld-woody said:

                      An embryo is not a person.

                      And when exactly does it become a person? And what is the federal statute that prohibits taking its life at that point? Unless, of course, that you mean that it never becomes a person until its completely born.

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                        MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                        No I think there is some point in there over half way in where it should be illegal. Since it is a gray area maybe beva little conservative and move the deadline a few weeks less. But I don't think "life" happens at conception and I don't think all abortions at any point should be illegal.

                        Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                          Legacy FanL Legacy Fan wrote on last edited by
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                          Life begins when children can fingerpaint. Because it's at that point that we can capitalize on their adorableness and legislate their safety and health into oblivion.

                          Sure, luck means a lot in football. Not having a good quarterback is bad luck. -Don Shula
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                            C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                            I think woodypeckerhead couldn't fingerpaint til he was a junior in college....

                            bad news for him, in that case.

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                              LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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                              It always makes me laugh when people screaming about personal freedom are pro life haha.

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                                It always makes me laugh when people screaming about personal freedom are pro life haha.

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                                Legacy FanL Legacy Fan wrote on last edited by Legacy Fan
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                                @logicisforsquares said:

                                It always makes me laugh when people screaming about personal freedom are pro life haha.

                                Why?

                                I always laugh when I hear the "it's my body, I can do what I want with it" argument. Except there's a foreign body inside your body -that isn't yours. Why doesn't the foreign body get to be pro-choice and decide if it wants to live or die?

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                                  @logicisforsquares said:

                                  It always makes me laugh when people screaming about personal freedom are pro life haha.

                                  Why?

                                  I always laugh when I hear the "it's my body, I can do what I want with it" argument. Except there's a foreign body inside your body -that isn't yours. Why doesn't the foreign body get to be pro-choice and decide if it wants to live or die?

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                                  LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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                                  @legacy-fan said:

                                  Why?

                                  I always laugh when I hear the "it's my body, I can do what I want with it" argument. Except there's a foreign body inside your body -that isn't yours. Why doesn't the foreign body get to be pro-choice and decide if it wants to live or die?

                                  Because I think that you should be able to do with yourself as you will. I don't think people should be shooting heroin in their arm while pregged up but I don't think someone should be policing what someone does to their body even when a baby is on board. Should something be done if a woman does something like crossfit and as a result of the strain on her body causes a miscarriage?

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                                    @legacy-fan said:

                                    Why?

                                    I always laugh when I hear the "it's my body, I can do what I want with it" argument. Except there's a foreign body inside your body -that isn't yours. Why doesn't the foreign body get to be pro-choice and decide if it wants to live or die?

                                    Because I think that you should be able to do with yourself as you will. I don't think people should be shooting heroin in their arm while pregged up but I don't think someone should be policing what someone does to their body even when a baby is on board. Should something be done if a woman does something like crossfit and as a result of the strain on her body causes a miscarriage?

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                                    Legacy FanL Legacy Fan wrote on last edited by Legacy Fan
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                                    @logicisforsquares said:

                                    Because I think that you should be able to do with yourself as you will. I don't think people should be shooting heroin in their arm while pregged up but I don't think someone should be policing what someone does to their body even when a baby is on board. Should something be done if a woman does something like crossfit and as a result of the strain on her body causes a miscarriage?

                                    If it's ignoring a medical professional's orders, then yes (along the lines of the legislation they're trying to pass regarding second hand smoke culpability). Speaking of, Crossfitters in particular are known for eschewing common medical guidelines. Their mascot is Rhabdo Clown (for rhabdomyolysis - destruction of muscle tissue due to over exertion).

                                    Medical professionals are held to standards that punish them for willful negligence.

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                                      No I think there is some point in there over half way in where it should be illegal. Since it is a gray area maybe beva little conservative and move the deadline a few weeks less. But I don't think "life" happens at conception and I don't think all abortions at any point should be illegal.

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                                      Legacy FanL Legacy Fan wrote on last edited by
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                                      @mld-woody said:

                                      No I think there is some point in there over half way in where it should be illegal. Since it is a gray area maybe beva little conservative and move the deadline a few weeks less. But I don't think "life" happens at conception and I don't think all abortions at any point should be illegal.

                                      There is no gray area, if you've actually studied it.

                                      The heart begins beating at day 22. (Early cardiac muscle cells can be cultured and beat on their own. They can beat in unison if connected)

                                      The sex is determined at conception.

                                      At conception all of the DNA for the human is present within the zygote.

                                      So please, shine a light on the theoretical gray area.

                                      Sure, luck means a lot in football. Not having a good quarterback is bad luck. -Don Shula
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                                        T The Cysko Kid wrote on last edited by
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                                        No, there child is not able to say 'please don't murder me, I want to live' and therefor are fair game for murderin'. God forbid the woman take a birth control pill or the man wear a condom. That's what Hitler would say!

                                        Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                                          T The Cysko Kid wrote on last edited by
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                                          Goddamn fascists trying to protect the rights of the unborn

                                          Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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