Rumor: Rubin may be the next cut
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The reality is that the salary cap is 133 million. There are 53 players on a team. That averages out to 2.5 million per player. Winn and Hughes are on rookie minimum deals, and are on the same level as Rubin, and honestly I dont think hes a great fit in the 3/4. Hes a good 4/3 DT. Same thing goes for Jackson.
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Rubins our best lineman, still better than Taylor...let's be clear about that. He would have gotten us something real good in a trade. But now we're gonna cut him and get nothing.
Rubins our best lineman, still better than Taylor...let's be clear about that.
No. Not clear about that. I'd prefer Taylor any day, and honestly I think Winn and Bryant are equal to or better than Rubin. So, NO we're not clear about that at all...
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You realize this is the same person that thinks Weeden could get us a fourth right?GuNNerGatSKy said:
Your out of your fucking mind if you think we would have received at least a second rounder for Dq. Out of your godamn mind.
You realize this is the same person that thinks Weeden could get us a fourth right?
No I didn't realize that..... I haven't be around the BB all that long... But really, weeds for a fourth? Your not just outta your fucking mind, your goddamn Retarded! I wouldny trade a 7yh rounder or a bag of my own feces for weeds.
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@mike-h said:
I think he also said Colt McCoy was worth a 2nd round pick.
There's reality, there's homer logic, then there's PoG.
LOL. Well goddamn maybe farmer needs to hit the road then and well usher in an era of dominance by making PoG GM, head coach, OC, DC, LBC, SC, etc. The browns will make history and win ten straight super bowls since we can get second rounders for 3rd string qbs and possibly 1st rounders to trade away mediocre middle linebackers (as far as his in the field play goes, in the locker room by all accounts DQ was one of the best).
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Whoever said I said we could get a fourth for Weeden is an idiot. Fuck off.
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Rubins our best lineman, still better than Taylor...let's be clear about that.
No. Not clear about that. I'd prefer Taylor any day, and honestly I think Winn and Bryant are equal to or better than Rubin. So, NO we're not clear about that at all...
No. Not clear about that. I'd prefer Taylor any day, and honestly I think Winn and Bryant are equal to or better than Rubin. So, NO we're not clear about that at all...
Rubin holds and sheds lineman as well as Taylor but moves laterally better and gets up field better. Taylor relies heavily on his sheer size to clog up lanes. Overall Rubin is a much better lineman and adaptable to any front whereas Taylor is vastly more suited to the 3-4. Really not sure what you're thinking about Winn and Bryant. Winn is not even close yet to being as good as Rubin and Bryant is a 5 tech DE so I really don't know why you're mentioning him because he plays a different position. This is football 101 c'mon guys.
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GuNNerGatSKy said:
Your out of your fucking mind if you think we would have received at least a second rounder for Dq. Out of your godamn mind.
Why is it so inconceivable that we could have gotten a 2nd rounder for the 7th leading tackler in the NFL? I mean it comes down to need obviously and if there's a team out there with a severe deficiency at LB'er why would a 2nd rounder be so ridiculous? DQ is interviewing with the Broncos is he not? One of the best defenses in the NFL is taking a look at him, can you give him some credit for this? Within two days he had one of the best defense's in teh NFL calling him and also have a couple other middle of the road teams with need at LB'er. Would a team give a high 2nd round pick for him? i dunno maybe not....but a team like the Broncos for instnance, who are going to be picking late in every round for the forseeable future i think would gladly give up a late 2nd round pick for a guy like DQ.
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With the amount of cap space the Browns have they should just eat his contract and if they want to get rid of him trade him away. We have plenty of depth, so I'm not worried about losing him, but I don't like the idea of cutting a player that has decent trade value on him. He is worth at least a 3rd or 4th round pick.
With the amount of cap space the Browns have they should just eat his contract and if they want to get rid of him trade him away. We have plenty of depth, so I'm not worried about losing him, but I don't like the idea of cutting a player that has decent trade value on him. He is worth at least a 3rd or 4th round pick.
oh for sure, Rubin was worth a heck of alot more than a 3rd round pick. I would have traded him to Indy for Werner and a 3rd or 4th rounder.
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Some people on here rock those Brown's tinted glasses way too hard
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
With the amount of cap space the Browns have they should just eat his contract and if they want to get rid of him trade him away. We have plenty of depth, so I'm not worried about losing him, but I don't like the idea of cutting a player that has decent trade value on him. He is worth at least a 3rd or 4th round pick.
oh for sure, Rubin was worth a heck of alot more than a 3rd round pick. I would have traded him to Indy for Werner and a 3rd or 4th rounder.
no hes not. Mostly due to his contract. They have to take an overpaid player and give up a third or fourth rounder? Slim chance you find anyone to agree to that. Theres better available elsewhere.oh for sure, Rubin was worth a heck of alot more than a 3rd round pick. I would have traded him to Indy for Werner and a 3rd or 4th rounder.
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Some people on here rock those Brown's tinted glasses way too hard
Another great post by the pecker.
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GuNNerGatSKy said:
Your out of your fucking mind if you think we would have received at least a second rounder for Dq. Out of your godamn mind.
Why is it so inconceivable that we could have gotten a 2nd rounder for the 7th leading tackler in the NFL? I mean it comes down to need obviously and if there's a team out there with a severe deficiency at LB'er why would a 2nd rounder be so ridiculous? DQ is interviewing with the Broncos is he not? One of the best defenses in the NFL is taking a look at him, can you give him some credit for this? Within two days he had one of the best defense's in teh NFL calling him and also have a couple other middle of the road teams with need at LB'er. Would a team give a high 2nd round pick for him? i dunno maybe not....but a team like the Broncos for instnance, who are going to be picking late in every round for the forseeable future i think would gladly give up a late 2nd round pick for a guy like DQ.
Why is it so inconceivable that we could have gotten a 2nd rounder for the 7th leading tackler in the NFL? I mean it comes down to need obviously and if there's a team out there with a severe deficiency at LB'er why would a 2nd rounder be so ridiculous? DQ is interviewing with the Broncos is he not? One of the best defenses in the NFL is taking a look at him, can you give him some credit for this? Within two days he had one of the best defense's in teh NFL calling him and also have a couple other middle of the road teams with need at LB'er. Would a team give a high 2nd round pick for him? i dunno maybe not....but a team like the Broncos for instnance, who are going to be picking late in every round for the forseeable future i think would gladly give up a late 2nd round pick for a guy like DQ.
You are not going to get a 2nd rounder for DQ I'm sorry. You can pick up a younger guy in the second or third round with twice the upside DQ has. He is on the wrong side of thirty. You pecker heads keep quoting him as the 7th leading tackler in the NFL last year but where the fuck did he make most of those tackles? Just because a guy gets a ton of tackles does not make him a great player. Watch the fucking film from last year abd you will see that a large portion of DQs tackles were made after considerable yardage was alrwdy gained. For fucks sake get your head out of your ass. I would listen to an arguement for his worth from a leadership standpoint but to sit there and prop up his value via his impact on the field is idiotic. Again any team can draft a much mote vauluable ILB in the second or third so why the fuck would it make sense to trade one of this picks for a guy soon to be headed over to the downside of a mediocre on the field career. Great character and leadership, but that doesn't translate into a second or third round pick sorry.
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We needed an upgrade at both inside linebackers. Sign Spikes.
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I said a fourth to sixth rounder or maybe we could trade him for a real fullback. All the same, fuck off.
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GuNNerGatSKy said:
Your out of your fucking mind if you think we would have received at least a second rounder for Dq. Out of your godamn mind.
Why is it so inconceivable that we could have gotten a 2nd rounder for the 7th leading tackler in the NFL? I mean it comes down to need obviously and if there's a team out there with a severe deficiency at LB'er why would a 2nd rounder be so ridiculous? DQ is interviewing with the Broncos is he not? One of the best defenses in the NFL is taking a look at him, can you give him some credit for this? Within two days he had one of the best defense's in teh NFL calling him and also have a couple other middle of the road teams with need at LB'er. Would a team give a high 2nd round pick for him? i dunno maybe not....but a team like the Broncos for instnance, who are going to be picking late in every round for the forseeable future i think would gladly give up a late 2nd round pick for a guy like DQ.
Why is it so inconceivable that we could have gotten a 2nd rounder for the 7th leading tackler in the NFL? I mean it comes down to need obviously and if there's a team out there with a severe deficiency at LB'er why would a 2nd rounder be so ridiculous? DQ is interviewing with the Broncos is he not? One of the best defenses in the NFL is taking a look at him, can you give him some credit for this? Within two days he had one of the best defense's in teh NFL calling him and also have a couple other middle of the road teams with need at LB'er. Would a team give a high 2nd round pick for him? i dunno maybe not....but a team like the Broncos for instnance, who are going to be picking late in every round for the forseeable future i think would gladly give up a late 2nd round pick for a guy like DQ.
Because of his contract- please. In a trade, the players contract follows him IIRC. That's the Browns paying at least $5 million to keep DQ around- as opposed to any team now start the negotiating at vet minimum, and working upwards.
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I said a fourth to sixth rounder or maybe we could trade him for a real fullback. All the same, fuck off.
I said a fourth to sixth rounder or maybe we could trade him for a real fullback. All the same, fuck off.
Maybe a bag of chips and a coke, or a bag of T-Rich's sperm?
We love ya PG- we're all waiting when Richardson has a beastly year.
I just had all kinds of beastly ideas involving Richardson, but I'll refrain in case the kids are reading. -
No. Not clear about that. I'd prefer Taylor any day, and honestly I think Winn and Bryant are equal to or better than Rubin. So, NO we're not clear about that at all...
Rubin holds and sheds lineman as well as Taylor but moves laterally better and gets up field better. Taylor relies heavily on his sheer size to clog up lanes. Overall Rubin is a much better lineman and adaptable to any front whereas Taylor is vastly more suited to the 3-4. Really not sure what you're thinking about Winn and Bryant. Winn is not even close yet to being as good as Rubin and Bryant is a 5 tech DE so I really don't know why you're mentioning him because he plays a different position. This is football 101 c'mon guys.
Rubin holds and sheds lineman as well as Taylor but moves laterally better and gets up field better. Taylor relies heavily on his sheer size to clog up lanes. Overall Rubin is a much better lineman and adaptable to any front whereas Taylor is vastly more suited to the 3-4. Really not sure what you're thinking about Winn and Bryant. Winn is not even close yet to being as good as Rubin and Bryant is a 5 tech DE so I really don't know why you're mentioning him because he plays a different position. This is football 101 c'mon guys.
ok now is this who you are?
disaster browns, mr. doomsday?
i loved DQ too, but ask his agent about that one. rubin hasn't been cut yet so calm the fuck down. let's see what happens before May whatever and our 4th pick. could be anything that you dream of. or a nightmare that you can't wake up from.
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I said a fourth to sixth rounder or maybe we could trade him for a real fullback. All the same, fuck off.
Maybe a bag of chips and a coke, or a bag of T-Rich's sperm?
We love ya PG- we're all waiting when Richardson has a beastly year.
I just had all kinds of beastly ideas involving Richardson, but I'll refrain in case the kids are reading.Maybe a bag of chips and a coke, or a bag of T-Rich's sperm?
We love ya PG- we're all waiting when Richardson has a beastly year.
I just had all kinds of beastly ideas involving Richardson, but I'll refrain in case the kids are reading.and to follow manziel or carr.
oops i said it again.
i think you and walter white should go to the drive in and have a tug-a-thon.
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Rubin holds and sheds lineman as well as Taylor but moves laterally better and gets up field better. Taylor relies heavily on his sheer size to clog up lanes. Overall Rubin is a much better lineman and adaptable to any front whereas Taylor is vastly more suited to the 3-4. Really not sure what you're thinking about Winn and Bryant. Winn is not even close yet to being as good as Rubin and Bryant is a 5 tech DE so I really don't know why you're mentioning him because he plays a different position. This is football 101 c'mon guys.
ok now is this who you are?
disaster browns, mr. doomsday?
i loved DQ too, but ask his agent about that one. rubin hasn't been cut yet so calm the fuck down. let's see what happens before May whatever and our 4th pick. could be anything that you dream of. or a nightmare that you can't wake up from.
. rubin hasn't been cut yet so calm the fuck down.
1) i'm calm bro thanks
2) I know he hasn't been cut, but he likely will be given that we cut DQ for the exact same reason.
3) I'm not so mad about us letting these vets go as I am that we didn't get anything for them. For us some us to say that we couldnt' have gotten any trade value for DQ is absurd and even more absurd for Rubin. Rubin has had high trade value for years. There are so many teams out there that would stab a ngr in the dick for our backup lineman let alone the top two in Rubin an Taylor.
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