Jonathan Paul Manziel
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9 bucks a case? We paid 3 bucks a case if we returned the bottles. Pabst. Ahh, the good ole days.
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I don't understand the guys here that want hoyer over maziel because they are afraid mr feetball will get hurt!lol my god hoyer was hurt all season
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well it's all over nfl network that the browns didn't even talk to manziel further suggesting they like derek carr as a better fit.
one mock on nfl.com has us taking mack @4 and carr @26.. the other has us taking watkins @4 and hyde @26.
so this shit is all over the place and i guarantee it's change 5 more times before may.
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Remember how the Mingo talk only started in earnest a few days before the draft?
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mack killed his pro day yesterday. they showed the tackle robinson in his pro day in which he actually beat out his 4.9 time at the combine. they had the st. louis coach/scout next to him checking him out the whole day, so i'd say it's a definite the rams pick him, unless they trade out of that spot.
i know there's a whole bunch of smoke being blown now. but don't cry when your fave player doesn't get picked. i think farmer knows what he's doing, but this is the browns, so when you think they're going to do this they'll prob end up doing something different altogether.
can't wait until may 8th thurday night here in the tavern to see the reactions to what really is going to happen. they'll be some happy campers and they'll be some really angry campers.
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9 bucks a case? We paid 3 bucks a case if we returned the bottles. Pabst. Ahh, the good ole days.
9 bucks a case? We paid 3 bucks a case if we returned the bottles. Pabst. Ahh, the good ole days.
we actually liked weidemann better and i think that was $3 a twelve pack bottles. we didn't return anything, they usually ended up getting smashed against signs on the road. yeah not much to do when you're driving around in a van a mile outside of sandusky.
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how much prime time speculation can the master endure?
manziel is an imposter. he will never become "johnny Cleveland".
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I'm not scared Manziel will get hurt. I'm scared he would make dumb choices. It's not like he doesn't have a string of 'em.
what are all these "dumb" choices hes constantly making? you guys act like hes beating women and carrying assault rifles and DUIs and snorting dope.I don't think hes a pac man jones or randy moss.Im not sure why everyone makes him out to be a problem
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I'm not scared Manziel will get hurt. I'm scared he would make dumb choices. It's not like he doesn't have a string of 'em.
what are all these "dumb" choices hes constantly making? you guys act like hes beating women and carrying assault rifles and DUIs and snorting dope.I don't think hes a pac man jones or randy moss.Im not sure why everyone makes him out to be a problem
what are all these "dumb" choices hes constantly making? you guys act like hes beating women and carrying assault rifles and DUIs and snorting dope.I don't think hes a pac man jones or randy moss.Im not sure why everyone makes him out to be a problem
why ar you so in love with JF? if you're so concerned with the browns picking a QB wouldn't any QB do?
or is it JF or die/cry?
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I'm not scared Manziel will get hurt. I'm scared he would make dumb choices. It's not like he doesn't have a string of 'em.
what are all these "dumb" choices hes constantly making? you guys act like hes beating women and carrying assault rifles and DUIs and snorting dope.I don't think hes a pac man jones or randy moss.Im not sure why everyone makes him out to be a problem
JF's choice to say he will take the Browns to the SB for one. Only Wrecks Ryan has the right to make that type of stupid remark.what are all these "dumb" choices hes constantly making? you guys act like hes beating women and carrying assault rifles and DUIs and snorting dope.I don't think hes a pac man jones or randy moss.Im not sure why everyone makes him out to be a problem
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@walterwhite said:
Manziel will either be a total badass or complete bust. No in between.
This is one of the few posts on Johnny I agree on. It is definitely going to be feast or famine.
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@walterwhite said:
Manziel will either be a total badass or complete bust. No in between.
i agree. so why be so biased on one player?
hey they could pick 3 QBs this draft and miss on the players i like. i would hope that farmer would know what he's doing at that point.
JF might be awesome. and he might be not.
anyone that gets drafted into the orange and brown i will support.
but saying so you have to respect the players on the roster that farmer decides to keep via his coach.
it might not be JF or bridgewater or bortles @4. does that mean you aren't a browns fan anymore?
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You two should get a room
though the "I'm a mod so you better be nice to me!" shit is pretty lame
You two should get a room
though the "I'm a mod so you better be nice to me!" shit is pretty lame
who is the alleged "shit for brains"
Apparently anyone who doesn't agree with Mr. WW.
I'll tolerate profanity to a point- and I hate to put my Mod hat on, but WW is essentially calling other posters dumb f**ks if they don't share his POV- even if he's dead factually wrong. He's not just pissing me off, he's done a bang up job of honking several other posters off too.
These mods run a flop house. Where else could one get away with calling the other posters semen guzzling faggots and get away with it, and not even be auto starred for fuck's sake. That's why we love this board. Besides who criticizes the food at a soup kitchen.
I don't agree with one (and I think you know who I'm talking about) of the other Mod's style- exactly for what you mentioned. You don't have to use profanity or Ad Hominum attacks (think WW knows what that means?) to get your point across. If we didn't draw the line somewhere this board would turn into a cyber food fight.
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what are all these "dumb" choices hes constantly making? you guys act like hes beating women and carrying assault rifles and DUIs and snorting dope.I don't think hes a pac man jones or randy moss.Im not sure why everyone makes him out to be a problem
why ar you so in love with JF? if you're so concerned with the browns picking a QB wouldn't any QB do?
or is it JF or die/cry?
why ar you so in love with JF? if you're so concerned with the browns picking a QB wouldn't any QB do?
or is it JF or die/cry?
answer the question...whats he done to make everyone think he will be a disciplinary case? don't make me start another manziel thread! lolol
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well it's all over nfl network that the browns didn't even talk to manziel further suggesting they like derek carr as a better fit.
one mock on nfl.com has us taking mack @4 and carr @26.. the other has us taking watkins @4 and hyde @26.
so this shit is all over the place and i guarantee it's change 5 more times before may.
well it's all over nfl network that the browns didn't even talk to manziel further suggesting they like derek carr as a better fit.
one mock on nfl.com has us taking mack @4 and carr @26.. the other has us taking watkins @4 and hyde @26.
so this shit is all over the place and i guarantee it's change 5 more times before may.
if they take anyone other than one of the three QBs,clowney or Watkins at the fourth, ill be sure the browns are still being run by totally stupid people.
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answer the question...whats he done to make everyone think he will be a disciplinary case? don't make me start another manziel thread! lolol
no, sir i answered the question in many posts about JF AND the other QBs. you know my stance. i hope they trade down and pick evans. zip, zang. zung.
no you answer MY question: you won't be happy unless they pick JF @4 correct? along with walter white.
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@walterwhite said:
I'm so tired of the "let's play it safe" crowd.
Complete babies.
@walterwhite said:
Manziel will either be a total badass or complete bust. No in between.
Which is why I don't want him drafted, and I don't think I'm alone on that. I've had enough bust draft picks for a while. Even the ones that only produce one good year or maybe two years and then fade out (Edwards, Winslow). Tired of it. Since '99, other than Joe Thomas and Joe Haden, who's become a top, long-standing player? Or players who become the face of the franchise? Manziel would become the face, I'm sure. But for all the wrong reasons, and likely short-lived.
If he wears brown and orange, I'll support him as well. But right now, I think Browns need to make the smartest draft choices, not the riskiest ones. Quality players in other positions of need are out there and should be priority. That being said, I'm not an expert here and if Farmer and Pettine say we need one of these QB's and pick one @ #4, including JF, I'll stand by them.
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answer the question...whats he done to make everyone think he will be a disciplinary case? don't make me start another manziel thread! lolol
no, sir i answered the question in many posts about JF AND the other QBs. you know my stance. i hope they trade down and pick evans. zip, zang. zung.
no you answer MY question: you won't be happy unless they pick JF @4 correct? along with walter white.
no, sir i answered the question in many posts about JF AND the other QBs. you know my stance. i hope they trade down and pick evans. zip, zang. zung.
no you answer MY question: you won't be happy unless they pick JF @4 correct? along with walter white.
I will be happiest with jf. ill be very happy but kinda scratching my head with clowney or Watkins. ill understand with bortles or bridge, I know we just disagree and have different opinions. if they pick someone other than those five ill be sure that the browns people don't understand that you get a game changer with a high draft pick and not a guard or nosetackle.you gotta get a gamechanger with a pick in the top five...you just gotta. Cleveland doesn't,thats why they lose.but again,without a QB they aren't going anywhere.
Rumsfeld said you go to war with the army you have not the army you want.when you need a QB you draft a QB from the QBs you have not the QBs you want.we can either say we are going for a franchise QB because we realize we cant win without one.or we can say we don't think theres one in there and we are basically gonna tank next year and hope to draft one in the next draft. but very very few franchise surefire QBs are ever in the draft.these three really are more the norm than Andrew luck,really
I mean how many QBs are in the NFL that on draft day everyone said"cant miss"?and how many years will Cleveland have to suck till they get one?
you gotta go with what is in front of you. and manziel has the highest upside.
either go with a QB or just say right now im expecting 4 to 6 wins next year
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@walterwhite said:
I'm so tired of the "let's play it safe" crowd.
Complete babies.
There's four aces in the deck! Hit me!!!
WSS
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