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  • jeffinwv J
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    J jeffinwv wrote on last edited by
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    rank the positions Cleveland needs help at in draft from most to least.

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      jcam222J jcam222 wrote on last edited by
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      ILB

      RG or RT and Scwartz to RG

      WR

      RB

      FS

      CB

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        Z Zombo wrote on last edited by
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        It depends on free agency.

        Right now:

        WR

        ILB

        QB

        RB

        OL (interior)

        Safety

        CB

        TE

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          PoeticGP PoeticG wrote on last edited by
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          Okay, assuming that the F.O. comes out and says: "We will not draft a QB this year, we are going to go with Hoyer, we think he has what it takes to be successful in the NFL, we just have to give him the weapons to have a chance and improve the defense."

          These are the positions I think they need to most.

          1) CB- Having a CB like Joe Haden on the roster is almost a wasted investment unless we find a way to shut down the opposite side of the field. If we are able to add a lockdown CB, that would in itself help Haden far more than anything else we could do to improve the team. That enables a guy like Skrine, who's best suited to play the nickel to move to his natural position where we'll get the most from all three players.

          2) ILB- Releasing Jackson opened up a giant hole in the middle of the defense. It needs to find an anchor to attach itself to, an identifying Middle Linebacker, a Clay Matthews or a Patrick Willis would be preferred.

          3) WR- Much like the CB position I mentioned earlier, when teams are able to double up on our only threat at WR(Josh Gordon) it limits our ability to sustain drives, as does dropped footballs. Subpar WR play can only get you so far even with a solid QB. WRs have to get open, separate and catch the ball. We need at least one more WR that can do this on a consistent basis.

          4) OG- We have Joe T, Alex Mack and Schwartz, why does the line struggle so often opening running lanes and protecting the passer? I've got to believe that adding a quality OG would help solidify a line that should be in the top 5...

          5) S- This position could change if we lose T.J. Ward to F.A. Pettine says that he doesn't use a traditional FS/SS Safety combination on the backside of the defense. Without T.J. it leaves only Gipson, whom I'm not all that sold on to hold down the Safety spots. We'll need another S with starter ability to be successful.

          6) RB- We have like 5 runningbacks on the team but I would trade all of them for one that could do it all. We need to find an every-down back and then find a player to complement him and then cut the fat loose. We don't need five runningbacks.

          7) FB- In addition to RB we need a FB, Obi is not a fullback. We saw what happened. It's not effective outside of third down. We need a traditional slobber-knocker to blow holes in the defense and allow our feature-back room to run. A guy like Prosch reminds me of Vickers a lot. His lead blocking for RB Tre Mason really help contribute to what Mason was able to accomplish.

          😎 TE- This wouldn't be to replace Jordan Cameron. It would be to replace the handful guys taking up roster spots at TE position that just aren't that good. We need another big TE that can run-block, pass-block, release off of blocks and catch the football when needed. Adding another TE will help to lengthen Jordan Cameron's career for us and help to remove the focus on him as well.

          The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain-
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            C CLEVELandMILIDH wrote on last edited by
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            How can ILB not be #1 on everybodies list

            1st Ezekiel Ansah, DE, BYU 3rd Darius Slay, CB, Mississippi State4th Landry Jones, QB, Oklahoma5th Earl Wolff, S, N.C. State6th Lucas Reed, TE, New Mexico
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              How can ILB not be #1 on everybodies list

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              bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by
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              @clevelandmilidh said:

              How can ILB not be #1 on everybodies list

              I agree. We literally have nobody there.

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                How can ILB not be #1 on everybodies list

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                C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                @clevelandmilidh said:

                How can ILB not be #1 on everybodies list

                ^^This

                I know there's people here who think we can be a top 10 defense with Tank Carder and Eugene something or other back there, but that's the result of heavy LSD use. ILB's have to be our #1 priority or that money we spent on OLB"s and down lineman means approx dick. What's the point for the OLB's to turn the runs back into the middle when you have guys there that might not start on some elite SEC teams.

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                  cambridgehoC cambridgeho wrote on last edited by
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                  I say me move Skrine to FS kinda like the Cards tried out witht he Honey Badger. Skrine is fast as hell and can stick some guys. It most likley wil not happen, just a thought. I just seen the cromarti for the jets was released, he would be a solid #2 db.

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                    How can ILB not be #1 on everybodies list

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                    @clevelandmilidh said:

                    How can ILB not be #1 on everybodies list

                    True. But we are negotiating with Robertson, and Tank Carder can play some. There will be two new big names at WR and two new big names at ILB ... I think you can hit on ILBs later in the draft though generally.

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                      @clevelandmilidh said:

                      How can ILB not be #1 on everybodies list

                      True. But we are negotiating with Robertson, and Tank Carder can play some. There will be two new big names at WR and two new big names at ILB ... I think you can hit on ILBs later in the draft though generally.

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                      C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                      Zombo said:

                      True. But we are negotiating with Robertson, and Tank Carder can play some. There will be two new big names at WR and two new big names at ILB ... I think you can hit on ILBs later in the draft though generally.

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                      yeah but they both suck. DQ was doing both their jobs last year, well..Robertson that is. Did Carder ever get on the field aside from special teams? Isn't that the guy who sang ain't no faggot gonna make it to heaven on his banjo in the woods?

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                        @clevelandmilidh said:

                        How can ILB not be #1 on everybodies list

                        True. But we are negotiating with Robertson, and Tank Carder can play some. There will be two new big names at WR and two new big names at ILB ... I think you can hit on ILBs later in the draft though generally.

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                        C CLEVELandMILIDH wrote on last edited by
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                        Zombo said:

                        True. But we are negotiating with Robertson, and Tank Carder can play some. There will be two new big names at WR and two new big names at ILB ... I think you can hit on ILBs later in the draft though generally.

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                        The thing is though we have nobody at the position, so we can't sit back and hope we hit on somebody later in the draft. We have to go get him. WR is considered one of the deepest position's in this draft, it would be wiser to hope you can land one of them later in the draft. Considering we have one of the best receivers in the NFL already.

                        I'm hoping we get Shazier with the 2nd or 3rd pick....4.36 40 at 240lbs and the best vertical jump of any position at the combine...He's explosive and flies to the ball... somebody that can actually cover a RB on 3rd and 25

                        1st Ezekiel Ansah, DE, BYU 3rd Darius Slay, CB, Mississippi State4th Landry Jones, QB, Oklahoma5th Earl Wolff, S, N.C. State6th Lucas Reed, TE, New Mexico
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                          miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
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                          LB

                          S

                          CB

                          RB

                          WR

                          OT

                          RB

                          WR

                          in that order.

                          yes no QB cuz hoyer can get us through this year if not beyond.

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                            J jeffinwv wrote on last edited by
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                            ILB is a gaping hole...I still think we gotta go QB, IMO they cant go anywhere without one...if they go with hoyer i sure hope hes the man

                            poetic G is on this thing....very good info...thanks man!

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                              ILB is a gaping hole...I still think we gotta go QB, IMO they cant go anywhere without one...if they go with hoyer i sure hope hes the man

                              poetic G is on this thing....very good info...thanks man!

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                              miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
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                              @jeffinwv said:

                              ILB is a gaping hole...I still think we gotta go QB, IMO they cant go anywhere without one...if they go with hoyer i sure hope hes the man

                              poetic G is on this thing....very good info...thanks man!

                              see that states it all. if hoyer can do it. well let's give a try before we bust on a #4 pick of some over-hyped QBs.

                              why not fill all the other holes and then hand the reigns over to a rookie that is a 'sure thing'?

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                                J jeffinwv wrote on last edited by jeffinwv
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                                it is all anopinion thing now, but I feel that if they go with hoyer we are looking at 6-10.

                                I think manziel at 4 best WR avail at 26 and fill all these other postions with the rest o da picks and I feel like they are trying to win now.

                                I may be wrong, but I think hes the best available QB to Cleveland as of now,and its a QB league

                                and besides if it doesn't work we get another top five pick next year!!! we get that with hoyer either way

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                                  intelligent fans.

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                                    it is all anopinion thing now, but I feel that if they go with hoyer we are looking at 6-10.

                                    I think manziel at 4 best WR avail at 26 and fill all these other postions with the rest o da picks and I feel like they are trying to win now.

                                    I may be wrong, but I think hes the best available QB to Cleveland as of now,and its a QB league

                                    and besides if it doesn't work we get another top five pick next year!!! we get that with hoyer either way

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                                    miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
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                                    @jeffinwv said:

                                    it is all anopinion thing now, but I feel that if they go with hoyer we are looking at 6-10.

                                    I think manziel at 4 best WR avail at 26 and fill all these other postions with the rest o da picks and I feel like they are trying to win now.

                                    I may be wrong, but I think hes the best available QB to Cleveland as of now,and its a QB league

                                    and besides if it doesn't work we get another top five pick next year!!! we get that with hoyer either way

                                    wha wha what?

                                    so you're saying pick a QB or stick with hoyer. so when the dice roll you have equal money on red and black?

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                                      How can ILB not be #1 on everybodies list

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                                      slimdawgS slimdawg wrote on last edited by slimdawg
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                                      @clevelandmilidh said:

                                      How can ILB not be #1 on everybodies list

                                      That was my thoughts..... there might be other guys that are better but I love the kid from Michigan St. Max Bullough, he just screams beast to me, put him in the middle and let him fuck some bitches up!!

                                      Some others have mentioned Shazier, I'd be cool with him also.

                                      !!!!hopefully i'll be alive when it happens!!!!
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                                        Yea I think you either stick with hoyer or pick a QB.because if you pick a QB then hoyer works out then you got an unproven QB at 4TH when you coulda had watkins

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                                          Yea I think you either stick with hoyer or pick a QB.because if you pick a QB then hoyer works out then you got an unproven QB at 4TH when you coulda had watkins

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                                          Flyin JF Flyin J wrote on last edited by
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                                          @jeffinwv said:

                                          Yea I think you either stick with hoyer or pick a QB.because if you pick a QB then hoyer works out then you got an unproven QB at 4TH when you coulda had watkins

                                          and one helluva trade chip, plus Hoyer insurance.
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