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  • miktoxicM miktoxic

    @babernakle said:

    Hoyer is not a reject he's never been a teams start he's been a perpetual back up his whole life, and what I am talking about is we already have him he works why go looking for a project and focus on the rest of the team

    i agree with this 100%.

    you have to realize what makes up the base of cleveland browns fans on this forum.

    50% want to draft a QB at 4, but it has to be their guy (bortles, bridgewater or manziel), if it's anybody else they won't be happy. the other 40% want watkins as the next (in their opinions) biggest playmaker in the league. and there's the rest of us who just want them to select the right guy, no matter who it is. and if they don't like who's there @4 when picking trade down.

    you'll get to know each of these fans as time goes on.

    we've got the OSU homers, who i guarantee if braxton miller came out would have us draft miller, hyde and shazier. we've got the southern boys here who like a little red in their neck and think manziel is the next coming of russell wilson with the circus fanbase of tebow.

    or you have reasonable people who just want this team to succeed albeit with hoyer starting and making the team stronger around the position of QB so whoever is tossed into the gauntlet as QB has a chance to survive.

    @miktoxic said:

    i agree with this 100%.

    you have to realize what makes up the base of cleveland browns fans on this forum.

    50% want to draft a QB at 4, but it has to be their guy (bortles, bridgewater or manziel), if it's anybody else they won't be happy. the other 40% want watkins as the next (in their opinions) biggest playmaker in the league. and there's the rest of us who just want them to select the right guy, no matter who it is. and if they don't like who's there @4 when picking trade down.

    you'll get to know each of these fans as time goes on.

    we've got the OSU homers, who i guarantee if braxton miller came out would have us draft miller, hyde and shazier. we've got the southern boys here who like a little red in their neck and think manziel is the next coming of russell wilson with the circus fanbase of tebow.

    or you have reasonable people who just want this team to succeed albeit with hoyer starting and making the team stronger around the position of QB so whoever is tossed into the gauntlet as QB has a chance to survive.

    U forgot the fan who sits on the fence with no opinion, criticises anyone else's opinion, and acts like they had the correct idea the whole way if they ever win.

    As far as the Buckeyes homer goes. It's better to not want a buckeyes player I guess. I've wanted some big name buckeyes before like Holmes, Glenn, and George. But as a bucknut I never wanted Smith, Ginn, Wells, laurenutis, hawk, or Jenkins.

    But in a coincidence I really like Hyde and Shazier this year for this team. Call me Homer all u want but a true Homer would want Roby too right?? I don't want Roby.

    "We are Americans. We don't quit doing something because it's wrong. We just keep doing the wrong thing till it turns out right." Browns maybe the most American Football team ever.

  • Shazier? Ugh....I hguess if you hget him in the 4th or later. Straight line speed isn't very useful as a mlb.

    Hyde in the 3rd....OK. But hes a rb, which can be had anywhere as used in shannahans system. The history says that system takes a running back and makes his career. Morris...a 6th rounder, torn up the league. Its a plug and play system....hyde isn't really a requirement.

    cdl15C 1 Reply

  • I am a buckeyes homer for the buckeyes when they leave could care less. I like Hyde for the simple fact he didn't have a negative run last year. He's a one cut guy. Which shannahan likes , A between the tackles guy. And although I do hate kipper he's right about one thing he looks like lacy. But yes I want guys that are going to make us better not just a flashy name or an ego, guy that can just play, and I think hoyer is a ( player)

  • Thing is I think right now we are Seattle three years ago. And emerging d starting to collect weapons on offense, new coach, and hoyer ( Russell Wilson) and remember Wilson was nothing great, and honestly still isn't elite. But he doesn't make mistakes and lets his play makers do there jobs. But what dose he do well accurate, motivated, and mobile, but not a runner just enough to get an opening.

  • chocoC choco

    Shazier? Ugh....I hguess if you hget him in the 4th or later. Straight line speed isn't very useful as a mlb.

    Hyde in the 3rd....OK. But hes a rb, which can be had anywhere as used in shannahans system. The history says that system takes a running back and makes his career. Morris...a 6th rounder, torn up the league. Its a plug and play system....hyde isn't really a requirement.

    @choco said:

    Shazier? Ugh....I hguess if you hget him in the 4th or later. Straight line speed isn't very useful as a mlb.

    Hyde in the 3rd....OK. But hes a rb, which can be had anywhere as used in shannahans system. The history says that system takes a running back and makes his career. Morris...a 6th rounder, torn up the league. Its a plug and play system....hyde isn't really a requirement.

    So Shazier is what the next Burfict?? He was one if the big stories of the combine. Probably the fastest LB in the field. And he put up close to Andy Katzenmoyer numbers for a very shit OSU D. I can respect not wanting a guy but lets not downplay talent

    "We are Americans. We don't quit doing something because it's wrong. We just keep doing the wrong thing till it turns out right." Browns maybe the most American Football team ever.
    chocoC 1 Reply

  • Another upside is being able to pick really high in the draft again next season!

  • didn't we draft a one cut guy with our first pick 2 years ago? how'd that work out?

    we need a tailback with as many moves as someone on 'dancing in the bars', i mean 'dancing with the stars'. 😳

    hey i love the OSU too. i just know when to differentiate my love for a player cuz he plays on my team and a player who plays on another team who is much better at said position.

    and cdl15 that comment wasn't aimed at you.

    cdl15C 1 Reply
  • cdl15C cdl15

    @choco said:

    Shazier? Ugh....I hguess if you hget him in the 4th or later. Straight line speed isn't very useful as a mlb.

    Hyde in the 3rd....OK. But hes a rb, which can be had anywhere as used in shannahans system. The history says that system takes a running back and makes his career. Morris...a 6th rounder, torn up the league. Its a plug and play system....hyde isn't really a requirement.

    So Shazier is what the next Burfict?? He was one if the big stories of the combine. Probably the fastest LB in the field. And he put up close to Andy Katzenmoyer numbers for a very shit OSU D. I can respect not wanting a guy but lets not downplay talent

    @cdl15 said:

    So Shazier is what the next Burfict?? He was one if the big stories of the combine. Probably the fastest LB in the field. And he put up close to Andy Katzenmoyer numbers for a very shit OSU D. I can respect not wanting a guy but lets not downplay talent

    downplay talent? OK....

    Again...fastest lb on the field means nothing. Speed is not what's important for a ilb. Getting to the ball 5 yards behind the Los means jack if he can't make the play. And I'm not sold he can. In the 4th sure.....he'd be awesome. In the 2nd....waste of a pick....IMO.

    Just a difference of opinion. I'm no scouting guru....nor do I claim to be. Just not enamored by a guy that lit up the shorts Olympics.

    cdl15C 1 Reply
  • miktoxicM miktoxic

    didn't we draft a one cut guy with our first pick 2 years ago? how'd that work out?

    we need a tailback with as many moves as someone on 'dancing in the bars', i mean 'dancing with the stars'. 😳

    hey i love the OSU too. i just know when to differentiate my love for a player cuz he plays on my team and a player who plays on another team who is much better at said position.

    and cdl15 that comment wasn't aimed at you.

    @miktoxic said:

    didn't we draft a one cut guy with our first pick 2 years ago? how'd that work out?

    we need a tailback with as many moves as someone on 'dancing in the bars', i mean 'dancing with the stars'. 😳

    hey i love the OSU too. i just know when to differentiate my love for a player cuz he plays on my team and a player who plays on another team who is much better at said position.

    and cdl15 that comment wasn't aimed at you.

    No it's cool I would be fine with another rb. But I think Hyde has the skill set the browns don't have. Hydes season is sorely underestimated by many. Never liked the TRICH pick but I cheered him as loud as any rb fail we've had.

    "We are Americans. We don't quit doing something because it's wrong. We just keep doing the wrong thing till it turns out right." Browns maybe the most American Football team ever.
  • chocoC choco

    @cdl15 said:

    So Shazier is what the next Burfict?? He was one if the big stories of the combine. Probably the fastest LB in the field. And he put up close to Andy Katzenmoyer numbers for a very shit OSU D. I can respect not wanting a guy but lets not downplay talent

    downplay talent? OK....

    Again...fastest lb on the field means nothing. Speed is not what's important for a ilb. Getting to the ball 5 yards behind the Los means jack if he can't make the play. And I'm not sold he can. In the 4th sure.....he'd be awesome. In the 2nd....waste of a pick....IMO.

    Just a difference of opinion. I'm no scouting guru....nor do I claim to be. Just not enamored by a guy that lit up the shorts Olympics.

    @choco said:

    downplay talent? OK....

    Again...fastest lb on the field means nothing. Speed is not what's important for a ilb. Getting to the ball 5 yards behind the Los means jack if he can't make the play. And I'm not sold he can. In the 4th sure.....he'd be awesome. In the 2nd....waste of a pick....IMO.

    Just a difference of opinion. I'm no scouting guru....nor do I claim to be. Just not enamored by a guy that lit up the shorts Olympics.

    we need a linebacker that can cover the running back out of the backfield we got torched there last year probably worse In league

    "We are Americans. We don't quit doing something because it's wrong. We just keep doing the wrong thing till it turns out right." Browns maybe the most American Football team ever.

  • Yeah rb are a risk to take early but there are times it's worth it, is this one don't know but I would like to see them get him I think he is the best rb out this year.

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