Gunnin for the HERE and NOW....
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I still would like some playmakers on offense so we do not have to rely on TE's being Fullbacks ......we need a starting RB and another WR outlet with Gordon ....oh and a QB would be nice
I guess with our moves so far we are looking to win most games 13-6
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well if we didn't let ward and DQ walk we wouldn't even be talking about this right now. i think letting them go was all about the financial numbers and the production they could get from people that have played on championship level teams to come in here and add some leadership to our youngins.
Tell it like it is Bitch!
Tell it like it is Bitch!
hey! the stooge is back!!
I still would like some playmakers on offense so we do not have to rely on TE's being Fullbacks ......we need a starting RB and another WR outlet with Gordon ....oh and a QB would be nice
I guess with our moves so far we are looking to win most games 13-6
well there is this little thing called the draft that is a month and a half away. you don't think we'll address those positions of needs then?
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I agree with u. I would love to have Ryan Shazier and Craig Robertson learning from Dansby. Loved DQ like non-other but he can't mentor the most important thing and that's how to and deal with winning.
I agree with u. I would love to have Ryan Shazier and Craig Robertson learning from Dansby. Loved DQ like non-other but he can't mentor the most important thing and that's how to and deal with winning.
I love Shazier's athleticism and speed, but he's an outside linebacker. Does his athleticism and speed translate to ILB of a 3-4? Plus, isn't he a little slight for ILB?
And I was never impressed with his tackling ability, or lack thereof. I'm a Buckeye fan, but in recent years, the defense as a whole lacked proper tackling technique, angles, etc. If he's drafted and sits behind a veteran for a couple years, learns the ropes, and gains some weight, then yeah maybe. But I'm just not sold on him.
Just my humble opinion.
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I agree with u. I would love to have Ryan Shazier and Craig Robertson learning from Dansby. Loved DQ like non-other but he can't mentor the most important thing and that's how to and deal with winning.
I love Shazier's athleticism and speed, but he's an outside linebacker. Does his athleticism and speed translate to ILB of a 3-4? Plus, isn't he a little slight for ILB?
And I was never impressed with his tackling ability, or lack thereof. I'm a Buckeye fan, but in recent years, the defense as a whole lacked proper tackling technique, angles, etc. If he's drafted and sits behind a veteran for a couple years, learns the ropes, and gains some weight, then yeah maybe. But I'm just not sold on him.
Just my humble opinion.
I love Shazier's athleticism and speed, but he's an outside linebacker. Does his athleticism and speed translate to ILB of a 3-4? Plus, isn't he a little slight for ILB?
And I was never impressed with his tackling ability, or lack thereof. I'm a Buckeye fan, but in recent years, the defense as a whole lacked proper tackling technique, angles, etc. If he's drafted and sits behind a veteran for a couple years, learns the ropes, and gains some weight, then yeah maybe. But I'm just not sold on him.
Just my humble opinion.
He did show up for the combine 20 lbs heavier (all muscle). 6'1" and 235lbs with room to fill out. Being as heavy as he is and still being able to have a calvin Johnson type vertical is very impressive and rarely ever seen. We need a guy to challenge rbs coming out of the backfield and wr speed across the field. Plus having the option of working in a 3/4 and a 4/3 has become ideal in this town.
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I love Shazier's athleticism and speed, but he's an outside linebacker. Does his athleticism and speed translate to ILB of a 3-4? Plus, isn't he a little slight for ILB?
And I was never impressed with his tackling ability, or lack thereof. I'm a Buckeye fan, but in recent years, the defense as a whole lacked proper tackling technique, angles, etc. If he's drafted and sits behind a veteran for a couple years, learns the ropes, and gains some weight, then yeah maybe. But I'm just not sold on him.
Just my humble opinion.
He did show up for the combine 20 lbs heavier (all muscle). 6'1" and 235lbs with room to fill out. Being as heavy as he is and still being able to have a calvin Johnson type vertical is very impressive and rarely ever seen. We need a guy to challenge rbs coming out of the backfield and wr speed across the field. Plus having the option of working in a 3/4 and a 4/3 has become ideal in this town.
He did show up for the combine 20 lbs heavier (all muscle). 6'1" and 235lbs with room to fill out. Being as heavy as he is and still being able to have a calvin Johnson type vertical is very impressive and rarely ever seen. We need a guy to challenge rbs coming out of the backfield and wr speed across the field. Plus having the option of working in a 3/4 and a 4/3 has become ideal in this town.
I didn't realize he packed on that much weight. I read that he ran like a 4.38. If that's true, that's pretty sick.
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In the conversation of competing in the "now", what would my fellow Browns fans consider a successful 2014-15 season?
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In the conversation of competing in the "now", what would my fellow Browns fans consider a successful 2014-15 season?
In the conversation of competing in the "now", what would my fellow Browns fans consider a successful 2014-15 season?
10-6 and Playoffs,
can it happen, its very well possible.
Will it happen, we will see!
Also, I think with Weeden not starting at QB it gives the fans more hope.
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@walterwhite said:
One of the very first things Mike Pettine said when hired,
"QB is the most important position in football"
YOU HAVE NO IDEA what the Browns will do in the draft, nor do I.
But don't be upset or disappointed if and when we draft a QB bro.
I can't stand the thought of drafting a qb at 4. But if the browns do I will root as hard as any fan. Does that make a difference? One fan wants a qb another doesn't does that give either fan more reason to gloat???
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In the conversation of competing in the "now", what would my fellow Browns fans consider a successful 2014-15 season?
10-6 and Playoffs,
can it happen, its very well possible.
Will it happen, we will see!
Also, I think with Weeden not starting at QB it gives the fans more hope.
10-6 and Playoffs,
can it happen, its very well possible.
Will it happen, we will see!
Also, I think with Weeden not starting at QB it gives the fans more hope.
I'm just going to throw 8-8 out there. Not amazing, but I don't expect dominance from a team that requires as many competitive pieces as the Browns do, complete with new management and coaching staff.
It may be more simple than a decent record as well. Just to be able to establish themselves as one of the top defensive teams in the NFL would be a distinct step forward. The question of team identity being answered and it being something to be proud of.
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10-6 and Playoffs,
can it happen, its very well possible.
Will it happen, we will see!
Also, I think with Weeden not starting at QB it gives the fans more hope.
I'm just going to throw 8-8 out there. Not amazing, but I don't expect dominance from a team that requires as many competitive pieces as the Browns do, complete with new management and coaching staff.
It may be more simple than a decent record as well. Just to be able to establish themselves as one of the top defensive teams in the NFL would be a distinct step forward. The question of team identity being answered and it being something to be proud of.
Identity. That's the word I have been gunning (haha) for. We havent had an identity in a long long time. If I could handpick an identity for the browns to have it would be that of a team built on a smashmouth defense that challenges the offense for every inch of the field. I believe that begins with a lockdown group of players in the secondary and one or two guys who can lay the wood on opposing receivers. I get that the recent rule changes regarding hitting in the NFL discourage this but having a player like Hitner who can wipe the floor with any given receiver is not to be underestimated. When a receiver gets his clock cleaned real good it can and often does alter their mentality and physicality going across the middle and putting their bodies on the line to make a catch for the course of the game and even their career in some cases. I love that. Take the drive and desire out of an opposing teams receivers and running backs by making them pay over and over again and by disrupting the flow of the passing game with fantastic corner play is the absolute key to succesful defense in the modern NFL. One look at Seattle says it all. Big, tough secondary that gives up very little to opposing offenses and consistently makes receivers and quarterbacks pay for mistakes and risky catches and plays.I'm just going to throw 8-8 out there. Not amazing, but I don't expect dominance from a team that requires as many competitive pieces as the Browns do, complete with new management and coaching staff.
It may be more simple than a decent record as well. Just to be able to establish themselves as one of the top defensive teams in the NFL would be a distinct step forward. The question of team identity being answered and it being something to be proud of.
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