Was opening day of free agency a success?
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And after two decent signings on day one, day two equals silence. *shhhh* don't want to wake up the city of Cleveland.
I would have rather seen a press conference when they were completely done with their marquee signings, like adding Tate, Edelman, or some others, etc.
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the browns are infamous for just filling certain dynamic holes in FA on the first day. then they fizzle looking for a couple of others for depth or someone at a rock bottom price.
the real damage this year will be done in the draft.
i don't know how you can be down on the 3 guys we signed?
just the swagger in berea has me more excited about the browns than i've been in a long time. i think that will rub off on the players and we will be a much harder team to beat this coming year.
it's also not always about who you want to add via FA, it's about who will visit and sign with the browns. there's not a good track record of blue chip players coming here and signing with cleveland. that will have to be fixed via wins and attitude that other players will see in the coming years.
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the browns are infamous for just filling certain dynamic holes in FA on the first day. then they fizzle looking for a couple of others for depth or someone at a rock bottom price.
the real damage this year will be done in the draft.
i don't know how you can be down on the 3 guys we signed?
just the swagger in berea has me more excited about the browns than i've been in a long time. i think that will rub off on the players and we will be a much harder team to beat this coming year.
it's also not always about who you want to add via FA, it's about who will visit and sign with the browns. there's not a good track record of blue chip players coming here and signing with cleveland. that will have to be fixed via wins and attitude that other players will see in the coming years.
Well, one thing to keep in mind, the league is mandating that you spend 89% of your cap between now and 2016. And consider the fact the salary cap will go up a couple more times.the browns are infamous for just filling certain dynamic holes in FA on the first day. then they fizzle looking for a couple of others for depth or someone at a rock bottom price.
the real damage this year will be done in the draft.
i don't know how you can be down on the 3 guys we signed?
just the swagger in berea has me more excited about the browns than i've been in a long time. i think that will rub off on the players and we will be a much harder team to beat this coming year.
it's also not always about who you want to add via FA, it's about who will visit and sign with the browns. there's not a good track record of blue chip players coming here and signing with cleveland. that will have to be fixed via wins and attitude that other players will see in the coming years.
I'm not down on the signings per se, but I think they could be doing more. The OL hasn't been addressed, and we can't just fill it in with rookies. There's a lot of holes that just drafting won't fill, at least, not this year.
Not to mention, drafting players is a crap shoot. I'm not saying build through free agency. But at least you know what you're getting.
I'm certainly not against the signings when I hear the energy and attitude coming from Dansby, or the leadership of Whitner coming from a winning organization, not to mention he's from the area. I like them. Just think they could be doing more. Just me.
But I'm also a chronic complainer. Lol
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@mike-h said:
Tate was on his way to CLE today, but weather kept him out.
Not a great sales pitch.
I thought they said he was already here.
Hey, if you're looking for beaches, palm trees, and winter surfing, go to San Diego. Lol
You a man? You want to prove yourself? Play real old school, smash mouth football? Come to Cleveland.
He should have ran here! Okay, maybe not. Lol
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@mike-h said:
Haha, nice. I moved to San Diego the day after Thanksgiving.
Zero fucking regrets. Worst winter ever. It's shitting snow all over NE Ohio as we type
I want to move to San Diego, because, well, I want to surf and hug cute cuddly great white sharks. But unfortunately, I'm in a one dimensional job that limits my locations. Sucks.
Looks like I'll be heading back to Charlotte. Bummer.
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@mike-h said:
Just leased a new apartment 2 blocks from beach and bought a board. Once I learn how to stay up on it, I'll probably disappear
Pick up a surfing instruction book. Check out youtube.
Get the book "Force of Nature" by Laird Hamilton. Also, I can recommend a ton of dvds.
And there's a surfing shop I follow, that I believe is located in San Diego. Degree 33. Seem to have great reviews.
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I don't think we added too much at all. I think Dansby and Whitner are better than DQ and Ward. But we didn't really fill any holes or upgrade. We have holes at QB and at guard now. Sure Tate is getting wined and dined right now. Did we take a step forward? Mack might be gone soon.
I think we might be a little worse off.
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I don't think we added too much at all. I think Dansby and Whitner are better than DQ and Ward. But we didn't really fill any holes or upgrade. We have holes at QB and at guard now. Sure Tate is getting wined and dined right now. Did we take a step forward? Mack might be gone soon.
I think we might be a little worse off.
I don't think we added too much at all. I think Dansby and Whitner are better than DQ and Ward. But we didn't really fill any holes or upgrade. We have holes at QB and at guard now. Sure Tate is getting wined and dined right now. Did we take a step forward? Mack might be gone soon.
I think we might be a little worse off.
We haven't really filled any new holes I agree. Tate is, but that's probably the easiest hole to fix.
We shouldn't pay Mack what he wants anyway. It's a bit ridiculous IMO and center isn't terribly hard to replace.
We're the browns though. We can't upgrade every position through FA. Need to accept that to get higher flight FAs we need to cripple ourselves cap wise.
Also, there's still a couple FA guys that could fill holes. Edelman, some center, etc.
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am i crazy or am i the only one that thinks/knows that only a dime a dozen of RBs last past a 3 year average in the NFL. fuck ben tate. fuck reggie bush. fuck golden tate for that matter.
what happened to the homers touting hyde. what about storm johnson who i'd take over everyone coming in as rookie and minimum salary. young fresh strong legs who haven't been pounded on for years in the NFL.
just cuz these guys are free agents you automatically think if we don't reach out to them that our FO isn't doing enough.
chill the fuck out and let's watch what unfolds. if you don't like the way farmer is doing biz or the way pettine wants his team run then be the first dingbat to throw up the "GET FARMER OUT OF TOWN AND FIRE PETTINE THREAD".
see how far that get's ya.
whiners and hoes.
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am i crazy or am i the only one that thinks/knows that only a dime a dozen of RBs last past a 3 year average in the NFL. fuck ben tate. fuck reggie bush. fuck golden tate for that matter.
what happened to the homers touting hyde. what about storm johnson who i'd take over everyone coming in as rookie and minimum salary. young fresh strong legs who haven't been pounded on for years in the NFL.
just cuz these guys are free agents you automatically think if we don't reach out to them that our FO isn't doing enough.
chill the fuck out and let's watch what unfolds. if you don't like the way farmer is doing biz or the way pettine wants his team run then be the first dingbat to throw up the "GET FARMER OUT OF TOWN AND FIRE PETTINE THREAD".
see how far that get's ya.
whiners and hoes.
am i crazy or am i the only one that thinks/knows that only a dime a dozen of RBs last past a 3 year average in the NFL. fuck ben tate. fuck reggie bush. fuck golden tate for that matter.
what happened to the homers touting hyde. what about storm johnson who i'd take over everyone coming in as rookie and minimum salary. young fresh strong legs who haven't been pounded on for years in the NFL.
just cuz these guys are free agents you automatically think if we don't reach out to them that our FO isn't doing enough.
chill the fuck out and let's watch what unfolds. if you don't like the way farmer is doing biz or the way pettine wants his team run then be the first dingbat to throw up the "GET FARMER OUT OF TOWN AND FIRE PETTINE THREAD".
see how far that get's ya.
whiners and hoes.
I get it. I'd prefer we draft a guy or two for the fresh legs. And I think there's a lot of RB talent in this draft.
But I'm not farmer. Ben Tate is a little appealing to me because he's pretty young and hasn't been the #1 back his entire career. He's had good production when he has played too. I wouldn't hate Tate at all as long as we don't overpay - but it looks like the teams aren't valuing FA RBs that much nowadays.
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if all these players wanted play with their heart and soul wouldn't they do whatever it takes to stay on their team they believe in?
ben tate has to be looking at what the broncos have done in 2 days to upgrade their team and wondering if he should just resign with them since a lot of pundits are already calling the broncos favorites once again to make it to the super bowl.
meanwhile elway knows the worth of a 6th round pick at RB as he played with one of the best in TDavis.
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@mike-h said:
Haha, nice. I moved to San Diego the day after Thanksgiving.
Zero fucking regrets. Worst winter ever. It's shitting snow all over NE Ohio as we type
Now you can hang out with MarkO.....and you can both go sit on a drumstick
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My thoughts on the matter is that both players grade out slightly above Ward and Jackson. Whitner is only 1 year older than Ward even though he has played for 4ish more seasons. He is also proven to be able to stay on the field. Ward has had two healthy seasons out of 4. I think Ward is slightly better in the box, but Whitner is slightly better in coverage. I would rather have a guy that is slightly better in coverage than the run, and he is still a punishing run stuffer. Plus it's nice to get a guy who just wants to be a Cleveland Brown, even though I think Ward was seriously interested in staying and the FO didn't necessarily want to resign him.
With regards to Dansby, he is a better run stuffer and better in coverage. Jackson used to do well in coverage but he has lost a step and TE just keep getting faster. 2 years older in my opinion doesn't matter that much. I think both will be out of the league around the same time anyway and at least Dansby's contract is front loaded, making it easy to cut him after two seasons if he needs to be let go. With these two they were and are stop gates at this point in their careers, good stop gates, but by no means the future of either franchise. Dansby is here to hold the spot until a young buck can step in.
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@mike-h said:
Ben Tate played for the Texans.
well it's still a horse/bullshit logo team.
couldn't mistake them for america's team..blech.
ben tate = smelly taint.
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@mike-h said:
Ben Tate played for the Texans.
well it's still a horse/bullshit logo team.
couldn't mistake them for america's team..blech.
ben tate = smelly taint.
well it's still a horse/bullshit logo team.
couldn't mistake them for america's team..blech.
ben tate = smelly taint.
Mik is becoming concerned his lover Storm Johnson won't make it too Cleveland! What's with all the anti-FA running back angst and rage? At least if were going to get a FA RB Tate is easily the best choice of the group. He's got the freshest legs (backup for AF) and he's young. Shows good to great ability running the ball. Lets give him a shot. Were not going to hit homeruns on every Pick Mik(hahaha). Anyways I mostly agree with I'm just playing devils advocate and I can see both sides of the equation on this.
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you're right. PoG just corrected me. we like harry connick jr. and adam lambert.
ben's taint could be a good move.
BUT
i'll always go back to the jimmy johnson saying: you can find a RB anywhere. why pay for one when you can turn the corner and find one bagging groceries?
how much would ben's taint cost versus a rookie with no hits on his legs?
and NO it doesn't have to be storm johnson. just liked the fact that 2 months ago the kid did a demo on NFL network and when was asked where he'd like to play......he said cleveland.
so go suck a nut. fuckos.
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Haha. I like Storm Johnson too bro. I just don't want to suck him off and guzzle down his offspring like you (bahaha j/k). Anyways I think it would be very wise to have a vet running back with a decently high ceiling on the roster just in case on draft day things go way way differently than we anticipate as far as drafting a runningback(s) goes. Contingency plan Mik. Contingency plan. Say it with me. Contingency plan. Something we rarely have in place in the C-L-Eveland.
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C=crack L=lovin Efland.
i live my life like that bro.
can't wait for comiccon 2014 and D&D masters championships held in north platte, NB.
see ya there!
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http://m.wikihow.com/Change-Your-Name@mike-h said:
I wish I had an Xmen name.
I'd go with cyclops or beast personally.
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