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  • John.R.Brown1968 John.R.Brown1968J
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    John.R.Brown1968J John.R.Brown1968 wrote on last edited by
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    UFA - Arizona Cardinals. Played at Stanford.

    http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/article-1/Browns-sign-tight-end-Jim-Dray/9a10f140-9a89-4913-b6b5-dfe10e4ec155

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    • bbedward bbedwardB Conversation Starter Reacting Well Dedicated Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
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      bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by bbedward
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      Meh, don't know much about him. Could use some help at the te2 spot though, maybe someone else knows more about him.

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      • Mr. Make-Believe Mr. Make-BelieveM Very Popular Dedicated Posting Machine Collaborator First Post Reacting Well One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
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        Mr. Make-BelieveM Mr. Make-Believe wrote on last edited by
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        *shrug*

        Seems decent to me.

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          Meh, don't know much about him. Could use some help at the te2 spot though, maybe someone else knows more about him.

          John.R.Brown1968 John.R.Brown1968J
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          John.R.Brown1968J John.R.Brown1968 wrote on last edited by John.R.Brown1968
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          @bbedward said:

          Meg, don't know much about him. Seems like a good size though.

          Yeah. Makes me think Barnidge might be on the way out. I mean, we already have WildDawg ( or Dawg ) Marqueis(sp?) Gray. How many freakin' tight ends do you need? Or maybe someone is getting moved to FB.

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            The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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            OK, I wasn't sure if TE was a position of need, but any upgrade is good if this is one. The Browns have Cameron, Barnidge, Marquise Gray, Andre Smith, Keavon Milton on roster now.

            ESPN rates him as the 9th best free agent TE that was available. Could he be our #2 TE over Barnidge et al?

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              OK, I wasn't sure if TE was a position of need, but any upgrade is good if this is one. The Browns have Cameron, Barnidge, Marquise Gray, Andre Smith, Keavon Milton on roster now.

              ESPN rates him as the 9th best free agent TE that was available. Could he be our #2 TE over Barnidge et al?

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              John.R.Brown1968J John.R.Brown1968 wrote on last edited by
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              @the-gipper said:

              OK, I wasn't sure if TE was a position of need, but any upgrade is good if this is one. The Browns have Cameron, Barnidge, Marquise Gray, Andre Smith, Keavon Milton on roster now.

              ESPN rates him as the 9th best free agent TE that was available. Could he be our #2 TE over Barnidge et al?

              I forgot about Smith and Milton. I'm wondering if they might look at some of these dudes as possible H-Back/Full back types.

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                Z Zombo wrote on last edited by
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                According to Pro Football Focus, he did not drop a pass in 2013.

                I like him already! Good size. I love blocking tight ends. Seems this one can catch.

                Zombo

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                  RemarkerR Remarker wrote on last edited by Remarker
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                  Yep, no dropped passes last season.

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                    According to Pro Football Focus, he did not drop a pass in 2013.

                    I like him already! Good size. I love blocking tight ends. Seems this one can catch.

                    Zombo

                    John.R.Brown1968 John.R.Brown1968J
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                    John.R.Brown1968J John.R.Brown1968 wrote on last edited by
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                    Zombo said:

                    I like him already! Good size. I love blocking tight ends. Seems this one can catch.

                    Zombo

                    I was reading Dawgs by Nature - mixed reviews, depending on who you go by. Pro Football Talk said he's a subpar ( actually, they said woeful ) run blocker. But from Cardinals affiliate - They said he was the most reliable of all Arizona TEs. Arians said he was very trustworthy - not stellar at receiving or blocking, but reliable at both.

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                    • John.R.Brown1968J John.R.Brown1968

                      Zombo said:

                      I like him already! Good size. I love blocking tight ends. Seems this one can catch.

                      Zombo

                      I was reading Dawgs by Nature - mixed reviews, depending on who you go by. Pro Football Talk said he's a subpar ( actually, they said woeful ) run blocker. But from Cardinals affiliate - They said he was the most reliable of all Arizona TEs. Arians said he was very trustworthy - not stellar at receiving or blocking, but reliable at both.

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                      @john.r.brown1968 said:

                      I was reading Dawgs by Nature - mixed reviews, depending on who you go by. Pro Football Talk said he's a subpar ( actually, they said woeful ) run blocker. But from Cardinals affiliate - They said he was the most reliable of all Arizona TEs. Arians said he was very trustworthy - not stellar at receiving or blocking, but reliable at both.

                      We definitely needed another big body. That Marques Gray is no Tight end. He's some sort of football player ... but not a TE.

                      Zombo

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                        @john.r.brown1968 said:

                        I was reading Dawgs by Nature - mixed reviews, depending on who you go by. Pro Football Talk said he's a subpar ( actually, they said woeful ) run blocker. But from Cardinals affiliate - They said he was the most reliable of all Arizona TEs. Arians said he was very trustworthy - not stellar at receiving or blocking, but reliable at both.

                        We definitely needed another big body. That Marques Gray is no Tight end. He's some sort of football player ... but not a TE.

                        Zombo

                        John.R.Brown1968 John.R.Brown1968J
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                        John.R.Brown1968J John.R.Brown1968 wrote on last edited by
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                        Zombo said:

                        We definitely needed another big body. That Marques Gray is no Tight end. He's some sort of football player ... but not a TE.

                        Zombo

                        Marques Gray is WildQuarterRunningEndTightBack. I think that's his official position description. 😆

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                          Zombo said:

                          We definitely needed another big body. That Marques Gray is no Tight end. He's some sort of football player ... but not a TE.

                          Zombo

                          Marques Gray is WildQuarterRunningEndTightBack. I think that's his official position description. 😆

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                          @john.r.brown1968 said:

                          Marques Gray is WildQuarterRunningEndTightBack. I think that's his official position description. 😆

                          Shanny may find use for him in the backfield. I like him a lot. I just don't count him when I start taking an inventory of actual tight ends. Seems Washington employed an H-Back type successfully over the years.

                          Zombo

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                            gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                            "According to Pro Football Focus, he did not drop a pass in 2013."

                            I like this. 26 catches, btw.

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                              Z Zombo wrote on last edited by
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                              DrayNotesMAIN.jpg

                              Looks big enough to block and lean enough to catch.

                              Zombo

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                                Zombo said:

                                I like him already! Good size. I love blocking tight ends. Seems this one can catch.

                                Zombo

                                I was reading Dawgs by Nature - mixed reviews, depending on who you go by. Pro Football Talk said he's a subpar ( actually, they said woeful ) run blocker. But from Cardinals affiliate - They said he was the most reliable of all Arizona TEs. Arians said he was very trustworthy - not stellar at receiving or blocking, but reliable at both.

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                                CLEinCHIC CLEinCHI wrote on last edited by
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                                @john.r.brown1968 said:

                                I was reading Dawgs by Nature - mixed reviews, depending on who you go by. Pro Football Talk said he's a subpar ( actually, they said woeful ) run blocker. But from Cardinals affiliate - They said he was the most reliable of all Arizona TEs. Arians said he was very trustworthy - not stellar at receiving or blocking, but reliable at both.

                                Pro football talk's analysis is about as valid as mine...

                                He was a core player on the Arizona Cardinals Special teams unit... looks like this pickup and the CB yesterday was to improve our ST units- I like it.

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                                  Harry BuffaloH Harry Buffalo wrote on last edited by
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                                  He is a true depth signing that you normally see at this point in FA. A guy brought in the compete with our bottom 5 TE. We could easily carry 4 TE again this year simply because of what someone else mentioned. Gray isn't really a TE, he is simply an offensive player. If the NFL hadn't put the hammer down on listing players as "Offensive Weapons" that is exactly what he would be listed at. WildDawg/Gameday 3rd string QB, running back, 2nd TE, slot reciever, red zone target. He needs to be listed someone so considering his height and weight it might as well be TE.

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