Free agency! Now the draft?
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dude we will pick WR in this draft and address it twice.
the draft is so deep at that positon we could have pro-bowlers picked int he 3rd round..........but i expect the FO to go sooner than that.
and yes i trust farmer. kicking stones inHS football stadiums kicking at cans as a scout. either he is brilliant or just briiliant.
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do we have a choice? No track record for us to have any opinion yetQuestion: does anyone at this point NOT trust farmer in the draft?
XxDaBuckeyexX said:
do we have a choice? No track record for us to have any opinion yet
Ozzie Newsome player turned GM in his first Draft had two 1st. round picks. I think he did pretty good Johnathon Ogden and Ray Lewis.Lets hope the football gods are looking over Ray Farmer as well.
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Brian Hoyer - QB
Ben Tate/Dion Lewis - RB
Jordan Cameron/Jim Dray - TE
Gordon/Little/Hawkins/Benjamin - WR
Thomas/Pinkston/Mack/Greco/Schwartz - OL
Taylor/Rubin/Winn/Hughes/Kitchen/Bryant - DL
Mingo/Sheard/Dansby/Robertson/Kruger/Grooves - LB
Haden/Skrine/McFadden/Trufant/Witner/Gipson/Badmamojammer - DB
That is such an awful WR corp,just awful...
That is such an awful WR corp,just awful...
That is just an awful statement. First of all Gordon, the leading receiver in the NFL last year, is in the mix which upgrades it from awful. Hawkins is a great slot addition to this team. Benjamin is fine as a number 4 for specific plays. The only thing awful is Little and I trust he will be upgraded via this deep WR class in the draft. One key add to this for a number 2 and its one of the best WR corps going.
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XxDaBuckeyexX said:
do we have a choice? No track record for us to have any opinion yet
Ozzie Newsome player turned GM in his first Draft had two 1st. round picks. I think he did pretty good Johnathon Ogden and Ray Lewis.Lets hope the football gods are looking over Ray Farmer as well.
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Brian Hoyer - QB
Ben Tate/Dion Lewis - RB
Jordan Cameron/Jim Dray - TE
Gordon/Little/Hawkins/Benjamin - WR
Thomas/Pinkston/Mack/Greco/Schwartz - OL
Taylor/Rubin/Winn/Hughes/Kitchen/Bryant - DL
Mingo/Sheard/Dansby/Robertson/Kruger/Grooves - LB
Haden/Skrine/McFadden/Trufant/Witner/Gipson/Badmamojammer - DB
That is such an awful WR corp,just awful...
That is such an awful WR corp,just awful...
I agree, outside of Gordon we have nothing which is why I firmly believe Watkins will be the pick at 4, a guard at 26 and Carr/McCarron at 35. I don't believe the Bengals are going to match Hawkins or they would have done so by now. After those two are added then we can say we have a WR corp that is top notch NFL caliber.
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But we have Gordon, which is more than like 25-28 teams can say. If we add a guy in the second like Watkins teammate Martavis Bryant, wed have a top notch reciever group.
XxDaBuckeyexX said:
But we have Gordon, which is more than like 25-28 teams can say. If we add a guy in the second like Watkins teammate Martavis Bryant, wed have a top notch reciever group.
Having one elite WR is counter productive look at all those Detroit teams that had only one. Compare that to the Rams and Indy when they had multiple elite WR's. The middle of the field will be wide open when Gordon and Watkins are flying down field.
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XxDaBuckeyexX said:
But we have Gordon, which is more than like 25-28 teams can say. If we add a guy in the second like Watkins teammate Martavis Bryant, wed have a top notch reciever group.
Having one elite WR is counter productive look at all those Detroit teams that had only one. Compare that to the Rams and Indy when they had multiple elite WR's. The middle of the field will be wide open when Gordon and Watkins are flying down field.
lol what? How is having a great player counter productive? Calvin Johnson is not the reason for Detroits failures hahaha. We do need another good WR but sinking the number 4 pick into one is counter productive. The Rams got Holt when Bruce was 7-8 years in, same with the Colts and Harrison-Wayne. If we draft Watkins, it would be to replace Gordon eventually. We dont need that. How many elite WRs do the Seahawks, Niners and Pats have?Having one elite WR is counter productive look at all those Detroit teams that had only one. Compare that to the Rams and Indy when they had multiple elite WR's. The middle of the field will be wide open when Gordon and Watkins are flying down field.
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lol what? How is having a great player counter productive? Calvin Johnson is not the reason for Detroits failures hahaha. We do need another good WR but sinking the number 4 pick into one is counter productive. The Rams got Holt when Bruce was 7-8 years in, same with the Colts and Harrison-Wayne. If we draft Watkins, it would be to replace Gordon eventually. We dont need that. How many elite WRs do the Seahawks, Niners and Pats have?Having one elite WR is counter productive look at all those Detroit teams that had only one. Compare that to the Rams and Indy when they had multiple elite WR's. The middle of the field will be wide open when Gordon and Watkins are flying down field.
XxDaBuckeyexX said:
lol what? How is having a great player counter productive? Calvin Johnson is not the reason for Detroits failures hahaha. We do need another good WR but sinking the number 4 pick into one is counter productive. The Rams got Holt when Bruce was 7-8 years in, same with the Colts and Harrison-Wayne. If we draft Watkins, it would be to replace Gordon eventually. We dont need that. How many elite WRs do the Seahawks, Niners and Pats have?
What else would you want at 4? Watkins is the real deal and will start from day one.
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lol what? How is having a great player counter productive? Calvin Johnson is not the reason for Detroits failures hahaha. We do need another good WR but sinking the number 4 pick into one is counter productive. The Rams got Holt when Bruce was 7-8 years in, same with the Colts and Harrison-Wayne. If we draft Watkins, it would be to replace Gordon eventually. We dont need that. How many elite WRs do the Seahawks, Niners and Pats have?Having one elite WR is counter productive look at all those Detroit teams that had only one. Compare that to the Rams and Indy when they had multiple elite WR's. The middle of the field will be wide open when Gordon and Watkins are flying down field.
XxDaBuckeyexX said:
lol what? How is having a great player counter productive? Calvin Johnson is not the reason for Detroits failures hahaha. We do need another good WR but sinking the number 4 pick into one is counter productive. The Rams got Holt when Bruce was 7-8 years in, same with the Colts and Harrison-Wayne. If we draft Watkins, it would be to replace Gordon eventually. We dont need that. How many elite WRs do the Seahawks, Niners and Pats have?
How many super bowls have they won in the last 10 years?
1. Was it the seahawks awesome passing attack that truly won it? No. It was the defense.
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XxDaBuckeyexX said:
lol what? How is having a great player counter productive? Calvin Johnson is not the reason for Detroits failures hahaha. We do need another good WR but sinking the number 4 pick into one is counter productive. The Rams got Holt when Bruce was 7-8 years in, same with the Colts and Harrison-Wayne. If we draft Watkins, it would be to replace Gordon eventually. We dont need that. How many elite WRs do the Seahawks, Niners and Pats have?
How many super bowls have they won in the last 10 years?
1. Was it the seahawks awesome passing attack that truly won it? No. It was the defense.
exactly. So how does a #2 WR help?How many super bowls have they won in the last 10 years?
1. Was it the seahawks awesome passing attack that truly won it? No. It was the defense.
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XxDaBuckeyexX said:
lol what? How is having a great player counter productive? Calvin Johnson is not the reason for Detroits failures hahaha. We do need another good WR but sinking the number 4 pick into one is counter productive. The Rams got Holt when Bruce was 7-8 years in, same with the Colts and Harrison-Wayne. If we draft Watkins, it would be to replace Gordon eventually. We dont need that. How many elite WRs do the Seahawks, Niners and Pats have?
What else would you want at 4? Watkins is the real deal and will start from day one.
If they deem no QB worthy, which I doubt, its Clowney, Mack, or Robinson (Justin Gilbert and Calvin Pryor are my dark horses also).What else would you want at 4? Watkins is the real deal and will start from day one.
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exactly. So how does a #2 WR help?How many super bowls have they won in the last 10 years?
1. Was it the seahawks awesome passing attack that truly won it? No. It was the defense.
By having better wr's than the other teams CB's, its a passing league, right?XxDaBuckeyexX said:
exactly. So how does a #2 WR help?
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By having better wr's than the other teams CB's, its a passing league, right?XxDaBuckeyexX said:
exactly. So how does a #2 WR help?
The draft is loaded with WRs that can be legit second options.By having better wr's than the other teams CB's, its a passing league, right?
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exactly. So how does a #2 WR help?How many super bowls have they won in the last 10 years?
1. Was it the seahawks awesome passing attack that truly won it? No. It was the defense.
XxDaBuckeyexX said:
exactly. So how does a #2 WR help?
The ability to assemble an offense that can score at will, not saying it's gets us a superbowl, but watching us score more than 13 points a game would be exciting or just the ability to score in the second half would be more exciting than what we have seen.
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If they deem no QB worthy, which I doubt, its Clowney, Mack, or Robinson (Justin Gilbert and Calvin Pryor are my dark horses also).What else would you want at 4? Watkins is the real deal and will start from day one.
XxDaBuckeyexX said:
If they deem no QB worthy, which I doubt, its Clowney, Mack, or Robinson (Justin Gilbert and Calvin Pryor are my dark horses also).
I think Clowney and Mack are off the board before we pick. I do not want a QB at 4. Carr/McCarron/Garappolo are all going to be good QB's in the NFL and can be had in the 2nd to 3rd rounds.
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XxDaBuckeyexX said:
If they deem no QB worthy, which I doubt, its Clowney, Mack, or Robinson (Justin Gilbert and Calvin Pryor are my dark horses also).
I think Clowney and Mack are off the board before we pick. I do not want a QB at 4. Carr/McCarron/Garappolo are all going to be good QB's in the NFL and can be had in the 2nd to 3rd rounds.
im not so sure about Mack....and those QBs, meh.I think Clowney and Mack are off the board before we pick. I do not want a QB at 4. Carr/McCarron/Garappolo are all going to be good QB's in the NFL and can be had in the 2nd to 3rd rounds.
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XxDaBuckeyexX said:
exactly. So how does a #2 WR help?
The ability to assemble an offense that can score at will, not saying it's gets us a superbowl, but watching us score more than 13 points a game would be exciting or just the ability to score in the second half would be more exciting than what we have seen.
It doesnt matter whos at reciever with the QB play were accustomed to.The ability to assemble an offense that can score at will, not saying it's gets us a superbowl, but watching us score more than 13 points a game would be exciting or just the ability to score in the second half would be more exciting than what we have seen.
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