Free agency! Now the draft?
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What would you guys think about a trade up with the 26th and possibly our 1st rounder next year if it came down to it? What would be the lowest acceptable pick in that scenario and how high do you think we can go with it? I think it'd be too costly to package multiple later round picks this year with the 26 and trading next years first rounder pretty much forfeits any chance of nabbing a QB in the 2015 draft. But if all goes well we won't need one and I feel like the time to strike is now.
I'd like to see us trade up with our 26 and get a cornerback, or possibly Watkins AND Evans. Imagine Evans and Gordo on the outside with Watkins in the slot and Cameron at TE.
What would you guys think about a trade up with the 26th and possibly our 1st rounder next year if it came down to it? What would be the lowest acceptable pick in that scenario and how high do you think we can go with it? I think it'd be too costly to package multiple later round picks this year with the 26 and trading next years first rounder pretty much forfeits any chance of nabbing a QB in the 2015 draft. But if all goes well we won't need one and I feel like the time to strike is now.
I'd like to see us trade up with our 26 and get a cornerback, or possibly Watkins AND Evans. Imagine Evans and Gordo on the outside with Watkins in the slot and Cameron at TE.
We definitely don't need to draft the top 2 receivers in the first round. I'm not so sure I'd be keen to trade our first next year either. I'd like to get one of Dennard or Gilbert though.
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What would you guys think about a trade up with the 26th and possibly our 1st rounder next year if it came down to it? What would be the lowest acceptable pick in that scenario and how high do you think we can go with it? I think it'd be too costly to package multiple later round picks this year with the 26 and trading next years first rounder pretty much forfeits any chance of nabbing a QB in the 2015 draft. But if all goes well we won't need one and I feel like the time to strike is now.
I'd like to see us trade up with our 26 and get a cornerback, or possibly Watkins AND Evans. Imagine Evans and Gordo on the outside with Watkins in the slot and Cameron at TE.
We definitely don't need to draft the top 2 receivers in the first round. I'm not so sure I'd be keen to trade our first next year either. I'd like to get one of Dennard or Gilbert though.
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XxDaBuckeyexX said:
If they deem no QB worthy, which I doubt, its Clowney, Mack, or Robinson (Justin Gilbert and Calvin Pryor are my dark horses also).
I think Clowney and Mack are off the board before we pick. I do not want a QB at 4. Carr/McCarron/Garappolo are all going to be good QB's in the NFL and can be had in the 2nd to 3rd rounds.
I think Clowney and Mack are off the board before we pick. I do not want a QB at 4. Carr/McCarron/Garappolo are all going to be good QB's in the NFL and can be had in the 2nd to 3rd rounds.
If Clowney and Mack are off the board before we pick, there is a high probability we select a QB at 4.
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I've been an advocate for taking Watkins with the #4 pick. But, for a change of pace, how about this:
Trade down from #4 for a mid-round #1 and #2, allowing the Browns to do the following:
1a - CJ Mosely ILB - premier inside linebacker with sideline-to-sideline tackling ability and good coverage
1b - David Yankey OG - good lateral quicks play well in zone blocking scheme
2a - Jordan Mathews WR - big target, good routes, but most importantly: a football-catching machine
2b - Marcus Roberson CB - talented corner may eventually be able to play #2 opposite Haden
3a - Jeremy Hill RB - big, fast bruising runner with good hands. If he's gone, James Wilder Jr. fits the bill (and can probably be taken in the 4th)
3b - Will Clarke DE - long, talented player who can add to the rotation (Rubin may be gone after this season...)
4a - Aaron Murray QB - sits and learns
4b - Jerrick McKinnon RB - kickoff returner can work his way into the RB rotation
5 - JC Copeland / Jay Prosch / Trey Millard FB - a true fullback ends the Obi experiment
6 - trade for 2015 5th
7 - trade for 2015 6th
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James Wilder Jr. fits the bill (and can probably be taken in the 4th)
No I think he screwed himself with ta poor ass combine. he looked really slow. Also, if you watched him play at FSU, he was not all that back there. He may drop till the 5th round this year.
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I would love to wait and accumulate picks to grab Mariota or Winston, however, I believe the Browns need to try to get their signal caller this year at the top..... Personally I would love Greg Robinson, at 4, since I believe he has All-Pro potential at LT,LG, or RT. However the Browns need a quarterback and really the only one I want to take a chance on early is Bridgewater.
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A betting man would suggest that we take a WR or LB with out 1st pick.
As is with WR this year, you can get a decent QB in the 2nd or 3rd.
1. Watkins or Mack "move to inside"
1b.. ILB or DB
2. A.J. McCarron
3. lineman
3b. DB or LB
4. FS
4b. RB
and then whatever.
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I'd hate to be the one to bring back all the QB talk, but the only guy we have is Hoyer, and he's not even healthy yet...
My guess is we either get Grossman or Schaub in FA and I still think we're using that #4 pick on a QB... Bridgewater or Bortles.
#Justsayin' -
I'd hate to be the one to bring back all the QB talk, but the only guy we have is Hoyer, and he's not even healthy yet...
My guess is we either get Grossman or Schaub in FA and I still think we're using that #4 pick on a QB... Bridgewater or Bortles.
I'd hate to be the one to bring back all the QB talk, but the only guy we have is Hoyer, and he's not even healthy yet...
My guess is we either get Grossman or Schaub in FA and I still think we're using that #4 pick on a QB... Bridgewater or Bortles.
I have a bad feeling we are moving up to 1 and it will cost 4,26 and next years 1.. I would rather trade back get extra 1 next year and give Hoyer a ton of weapons.. If he fails you trade up and get Winston, Perry, Hundley or Mariotta..I don't like any of the "top" Qbs this year
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I'd hate to be the one to bring back all the QB talk, but the only guy we have is Hoyer, and he's not even healthy yet...
My guess is we either get Grossman or Schaub in FA and I still think we're using that #4 pick on a QB... Bridgewater or Bortles.
I'd hate to be the one to bring back all the QB talk, but the only guy we have is Hoyer, and he's not even healthy yet...
My guess is we either get Grossman or Schaub in FA and I still think we're using that #4 pick on a QB... Bridgewater or Bortles.
Agreed. We are addressing other needs with FA. We will go with QB with first pick. Who? We'll see.
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Brian Hoyer - QB
Ben Tate/Dion Lewis - RB
Jordan Cameron/Jim Dray - TE
Gordon/Little/Hawkins/Benjamin - WR
Thomas/Pinkston/Mack/Greco/Schwartz - OL
Taylor/Rubin/Winn/Hughes/Kitchen/Bryant - DL
Mingo/Sheard/Dansby/Robertson/Kruger/Grooves - LB
Haden/Skrine/McFadden/Trufant/Witner/Gipson/Badmamojammer - DB
That is such an awful WR corp,just awful...
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See Carolina.
you aint shittin, they must not want to pay Cam.. Think they could go another route though
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Really surprised Lance Moore has not been looked at also for our slot guy.
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Today from Ray Farmer on Free Agency :
The Browns have released the following statement from GM Ray Farmer:
"Free agency is well under way. We've added several players to the roster that will continue to push in the direction we want this team to go. A couple key things to keep in mind: What we're doing is finding talented players that can be good starters in this league, and guys that can compete to push those guys that end up being the starters.
"Since we last talked about the state of our roster, we've added Jim Dray, Ben Tate and now Andrew Hawkins – all offensive guys who we think can help advance our mission. These acquisitions are about steadying our ship and moving Cleveland closer to competing in our division and competing for championships.
"Like Coach Pett has articulated, we want guys that play like Browns, and we feel like every player we've added in free agency embodies the characteristics we want: Passion, toughness, relentlessness, competitiveness, accountability and productivity."Plus another Article :
Dansby, Whitner, Tate, and fellow free-agent newcomers, cornerback Isaish Trufant and tight end Jim Dray show a high level of competitiveness, making it clear that they arrive in Cleveland with something to prove – that they have what it takes to bring an end to the Browns’ perpetual struggles.
When general manager Ray Farmer and coach Mike Pettine talk about what it means to “play like a Brown,” this is what they have in mind – players who are fully engaged with being a part of what the club’s new decision-makers are building rather than merely collecting a big paycheck.
Hawkins now a Brown, another CB in town, DL Alex Carrington coming, and likely a few more FA pickups coming.
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What was going on with the ILB Moats from Buffalo that was supposed to follow Pettine?
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What was going on with the ILB Moats from Buffalo that was supposed to follow Pettine?
What was going on with the ILB Moats from Buffalo that was supposed to follow Pettine?
Last I read he's still in the mix, don't know what the holdup is, I don't even think he's been in town yet.
Philly is shopping Desean Jackson . . . for a 3rd rounder?
Brown's might have some interest - I think we have enough smallish WR's, time for big ones.
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Our late 3rd rounder for Jackson could reshape our draft board. Only one tiny problem, he is due 10 mil this year. So buyer beware.
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