Jonathan Paul Manziel
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Nike Already Selling Johnny Manziel Pro Day Gear Online
By Kyle Newport, Featured Columnist
Mar 27, 2014
Patric Schneider/Associated PressJohnny Manziel doesn't know what jersey he will be wearing this upcoming season, but Nike has found a way to cash in on the former Texas A&M star before the NFL draft.
The projected first-round pick held his pro day Thursday, March 27. After hesigned with Nike earlier this month, the 2012 Heisman Trophy winner went all out by wearing the swoosh during his workout.
Manziel is making money by wearing the clothes, and now Nike is cashing in by allowing fans to dress like the quarterback:
In case you were wondering, the outfit can be bought for $616 (before tax).
This story also has an interesting little tidbit. The Aggies are partnered with Adidas, so Manziel's Nike outfit isn't a common sight on campus.
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@bbedward said:
Don't use SEC as an argument for good qbs if that's what you were doing.
I think it was more an argument that, in general, SEC QB's have to face higher quality defenses more often.
Which isn't exactly true for this year, as there was a pretty even showing of conferences among the Top 20.
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XxDaBuckeyexX said:
how many of those QBs played in the SEC? I kinda want to see your source. I know he had a bad game against LSU but, how is he possibly the worst of em all?
Don't use SEC as an argument for good qbs if that's what you were doing.
Agreed. SEC defense are either not good or overrated. Most games, especially high profile games, were high scoring.Don't use SEC as an argument for good qbs if that's what you were doing.
Besides if the argument is how many of those QBs were in the SEC then can't that also mean that he has taken bigger and harder hits than QBs from Louisville and UCF and E Illinois since those conferences don't hit hard?
I don't care if Manziel played in the SEC, B1G, or JuCo ... I don't want him at 4, 26? Sure.
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I wouldn't be opposed to taking Johnny Football.
He's an exciting player to watch and he's innovative with the football.
I don't think you can go wrong drafting him and taking the chance.
You get a first round draft pick every year. You don't often get the chance to draft a player like JF, especially if you're not drafting very high. I don't know, there are a lot of really unique players this year and I think JF is one of them. You also have Clowney, Mack, Carr, Matthews, Watkins and Evans.
It's too bad we can't get more of these blue chippers.
Look at all the possibilities.
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Would it be worth it to sacrifice the next two drafts to go all in and pick up 2 more first round picks?
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Would it be worth it to sacrifice the next two drafts to go all in and pick up 2 more first round picks?
Would it be worth it to sacrifice the next two drafts to go all in and pick up 2 more first round picks?
Um, no. and the above post about the Manziel's Nike crap shows the guy is a commercial sellout already. You bring in Manziel, you bring the circus to town- MHO is Farmer and Pettine are into football, not Barnum & Bailey. JFs goal will be to out sell RGIII- that aspect about his persona makes me want to puke.
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Would it be worth it to sacrifice the next two drafts to go all in and pick up 2 more first round picks?
Um, no. and the above post about the Manziel's Nike crap shows the guy is a commercial sellout already. You bring in Manziel, you bring the circus to town- MHO is Farmer and Pettine are into football, not Barnum & Bailey. JFs goal will be to out sell RGIII- that aspect about his persona makes me want to puke.
Um, no. and the above post about the Manziel's Nike crap shows the guy is a commercial sellout already. You bring in Manziel, you bring the circus to town- MHO is Farmer and Pettine are into football, not Barnum & Bailey. JFs goal will be to out sell RGIII- that aspect about his persona makes me want to puke.
Oh, cut the shit it already.
He was offered a deal by Nike, he took it. He's not a sellout, he's a 21 year old.
You'd take the same deal.
Show me anywhere...anywhere...where he made comments about outselling anyone, branding himself, marketing himself, making money, etc.
Every comment at every interview has been about football. Not Nike. Not making money. Winning football games. Then he goes out and has a solid Pro Day, better than the previously thought #1 QB, and you're complaining because Nike is selling his Pro Day jersey to turn a profit? Get over yourself.
Wearing pads and a helmet was a great decision, regardless of the marketing ploy from his manager. You wear pads and a helmet in games, why would you throw without them on a day where you're trying to showcase your skills? It was a ballsy move that paid off and will probably change Pro Days from now on.
You're mad because he hired a marketing manager? That's like getting pissed because a player hires an agent.
So let me just try and list this out to make sense of it:
Pros
-Unbelievable athlete
-Played against top tier talent.
-Played in National spotlight
-Put up video game numbers
-Has natural accuracy and great internal clock
Cons
-Hired marketing major
-Got drunk in college
-Isn't 6'5" 230.
-You don't like his face
That about sum it up?
I'm awesome, and I fuck dolphins. Ghoolie 12/2/2012: I have absolutely no skills, training or pride -
Um, no. and the above post about the Manziel's Nike crap shows the guy is a commercial sellout already. You bring in Manziel, you bring the circus to town- MHO is Farmer and Pettine are into football, not Barnum & Bailey. JFs goal will be to out sell RGIII- that aspect about his persona makes me want to puke.
Oh, cut the shit it already.
He was offered a deal by Nike, he took it. He's not a sellout, he's a 21 year old.
You'd take the same deal.
Show me anywhere...anywhere...where he made comments about outselling anyone, branding himself, marketing himself, making money, etc.
Every comment at every interview has been about football. Not Nike. Not making money. Winning football games. Then he goes out and has a solid Pro Day, better than the previously thought #1 QB, and you're complaining because Nike is selling his Pro Day jersey to turn a profit? Get over yourself.
Wearing pads and a helmet was a great decision, regardless of the marketing ploy from his manager. You wear pads and a helmet in games, why would you throw without them on a day where you're trying to showcase your skills? It was a ballsy move that paid off and will probably change Pro Days from now on.
You're mad because he hired a marketing manager? That's like getting pissed because a player hires an agent.
So let me just try and list this out to make sense of it:
Pros
-Unbelievable athlete
-Played against top tier talent.
-Played in National spotlight
-Put up video game numbers
-Has natural accuracy and great internal clock
Cons
-Hired marketing major
-Got drunk in college
-Isn't 6'5" 230.
-You don't like his face
That about sum it up?
Oh, cut the shit it already.
He was offered a deal by Nike, he took it. He's not a sellout, he's a 21 year old.
You'd take the same deal.
Show me anywhere...anywhere...where he made comments about outselling anyone, branding himself, marketing himself, making money, etc.
Every comment at every interview has been about football. Not Nike. Not making money. Winning football games. Then he goes out and has a solid Pro Day, better than the previously thought #1 QB, and you're complaining because Nike is selling his Pro Day jersey to turn a profit? Get over yourself.
Wearing pads and a helmet was a great decision, regardless of the marketing ploy from his manager. You wear pads and a helmet in games, why would you throw without them on a day where you're trying to showcase your skills? It was a ballsy move that paid off and will probably change Pro Days from now on.
You're mad because he hired a marketing manager? That's like getting pissed because a player hires an agent.
So let me just try and list this out to make sense of it:
Pros
-Unbelievable athlete
-Played against top tier talent.
-Played in National spotlight
-Put up video game numbers
-Has natural accuracy and great internal clock
Cons
-Hired marketing major
-Got drunk in college
-Isn't 6'5" 230.
-You don't like his face
That about sum it up?
Exactly.
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Hey guys been reading the post for weeks, first post on this site, I like JF but just don't see him as a good fit here. In a dome or warm weather I think is were he will shine, But here in this weather no thanks, and not to mention we play on grass which will also slow him down, the rest of our division has shown you the need that big strong guy to handle the wind an weather.
Now on too the draft and the way I see it. First we need to value the positions.
With a number 4 pick you have to look at QB's first, (and god knows we need one) but if none are worth that pick, we have to move to the next position of value,
LT got that covered,
Wide receiver would be next in value and Sammy would be the choice here.
Now comes the first D player in my opinion a D back or a D end. and there may be one at 4 but don't think he'll be there.
So how would I set this draft up?
1.) Try like hell to trade down to 6 to 10 still alot of talent there, and take Carr. ( none of the top 4 QB's and maybe top 5 QB's will be there at 26...)
2.) If I'm stuck at 4, I'm looking at Bortals first. and not sure how it is spelled? And he may not be there!!!
3.) Sammy would be my next choice here. If he is also gone...
4.) Conney the DE would be my next pick.
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Manziel did NOT impress the Vikings coach with the sideshow.
He's an attention hog, a sellout - I mean, he's "all about football", then he
proceeds to not throw at the combine, so he can have a sideshow with all the media?
Really.
I'm not impressed either. I just don't see him being a smart pick for the Browns.
After that sideshow...I think Derek Carr, and Bortles are the guys who are legit
about being "all about football".
No wonder the Rams and Texans want to trade down.
And yes, Manziel's mo won't make it in the NFL - he may not be able to
read defenses any more than Quinn.
Manziel = .....Leinart with super scrambling ability?
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Um, no. and the above post about the Manziel's Nike crap shows the guy is a commercial sellout already. You bring in Manziel, you bring the circus to town- MHO is Farmer and Pettine are into football, not Barnum & Bailey. JFs goal will be to out sell RGIII- that aspect about his persona makes me want to puke.
Oh, cut the shit it already.
He was offered a deal by Nike, he took it. He's not a sellout, he's a 21 year old.
You'd take the same deal.
Show me anywhere...anywhere...where he made comments about outselling anyone, branding himself, marketing himself, making money, etc.
Every comment at every interview has been about football. Not Nike. Not making money. Winning football games. Then he goes out and has a solid Pro Day, better than the previously thought #1 QB, and you're complaining because Nike is selling his Pro Day jersey to turn a profit? Get over yourself.
Wearing pads and a helmet was a great decision, regardless of the marketing ploy from his manager. You wear pads and a helmet in games, why would you throw without them on a day where you're trying to showcase your skills? It was a ballsy move that paid off and will probably change Pro Days from now on.
You're mad because he hired a marketing manager? That's like getting pissed because a player hires an agent.
So let me just try and list this out to make sense of it:
Pros
-Unbelievable athlete
-Played against top tier talent.
-Played in National spotlight
-Put up video game numbers
-Has natural accuracy and great internal clock
Cons
-Hired marketing major
-Got drunk in college
-Isn't 6'5" 230.
-You don't like his face
That about sum it up?
Oh, cut the shit it already.
He was offered a deal by Nike, he took it. He's not a sellout, he's a 21 year old.
You'd take the same deal. No I wouldn't.
Show me anywhere...anywhere...where he made comments about outselling anyone, branding himself, see below marketing himself, making money, etc.
Every comment at every interview has been about football. Not Nike. Not making money. Winning football games. Then he goes out and has a solid Pro Day, better than the previously thought #1 QB, and you're complaining because Nike is selling his Pro Day jersey to turn a profit? Get over yourself.
Wearing pads and a helmet was a great decision, regardless of the marketing ploy from his manager. You wear pads and a helmet in games, why would you throw without them on a day where you're trying to showcase your skills? It was a ballsy move that paid off and will probably change Pro Days from now on.
You're mad because he hired a marketing manager? That's like getting pissed because a player hires an agent.
So let me just try and list this out to make sense of it:
Pros
-Unbelievable athlete
-Played against top tier talent.
-Played in National spotlight
-Put up video game numbers
-Has natural accuracy and great internal clock
Cons
-Hired marketing major
-Got drunk in college
-Isn't 6'5" 230.
-You don't like his face
That about sum it up?
Here's all you need to know- Johnny Football
If that's not selling out, I don't know what is. He can shove that up his ass. Only difference between him and Desean Jackson I can see is he doesn't hang out with gangs, and hasn't played a snap in the NFL yet. Yeah, I've made no secret I don't like him. And I'm fervently hoping the Browns don't either. We're trying to build a team in Cleveland, not a media circus- which is what's going to happen to the team that drafts Manziel- take it to the bank. EDIT: As reported below- there's pretty good evidence JF was already getting paid under the table for his "autograph sessions"- to the tune of $30 a pop. .As above he's in the process of copyrighting "the brand"- guess I'm just too old school to think win a SB or two (like Peyton with Papa John's or Rodgers with State Farm) before you whore yourself out for maximum $$$ RGIII wherefore art thy Subway commercials now? I laugh at you. Maybe if JF really was really into football- he'd take the Andrew Luck approach, instead of taking every marketing opportunity shoved in his face. Haven't seen Andy pulling that sort of commercial shit- because he doesn't have to. Funny Bortles and Bridgewater haven't seen the need either. If that's the way JF wants to make his money, more power to him- that doesn't mean I have to like his style of doing so.
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Manziel did NOT impress the Vikings coach with the sideshow.
He's an attention hog, a sellout - I mean, he's "all about football", then he
proceeds to not throw at the combine, so he can have a sideshow with all the media?
Really.
I'm not impressed either. I just don't see him being a smart pick for the Browns.
After that sideshow...I think Derek Carr, and Bortles are the guys who are legit
about being "all about football".
No wonder the Rams and Texans want to trade down.
And yes, Manziel's mo won't make it in the NFL - he may not be able to
read defenses any more than Quinn.
Manziel = .....Leinart with super scrambling ability?
There were 32 NFL teams and thousands of cameras at the combine.Manziel did NOT impress the Vikings coach with the sideshow.
He's an attention hog, a sellout - I mean, he's "all about football", then he
proceeds to not throw at the combine, so he can have a sideshow with all the media?
Really.
I'm not impressed either. I just don't see him being a smart pick for the Browns.
After that sideshow...I think Derek Carr, and Bortles are the guys who are legit
about being "all about football".
No wonder the Rams and Texans want to trade down.
And yes, Manziel's mo won't make it in the NFL - he may not be able to
read defenses any more than Quinn.
Manziel = .....Leinart with super scrambling ability?
There were 30 NFL teams and only a handful of cameras actually at JF's Pro Day.
Which one was the over reported sideshow?
Further, Manziel isn't really considered a top 5 pick, much less first overall, so the Rams and Tecans trading down have zero to do with him.
Sorry, but the only strong point made in that entire post was "Bah Humbug I don't like JF and that's that".
And I'm not even a JF fanboy.
I'm awesome, and I fuck dolphins. Ghoolie 12/2/2012: I have absolutely no skills, training or pride -
I can't believe I'm saying this..... BUT after taking the time to watch some more film and read a few more articles breaking down Manziel's strengths and weaknesses I'm slowly being converted into a Johhny footbal believer. After spending the past couple months knocking Manziel (with what I will admit was a less than adequate base of knowledge for doing so) I now find myself seeing the other side of the fence. A few quick things I have discovered while studying Manziel that fly in the face of what his lowlights/detractors would have you believe is his modus operandi:
A) "JFF rarely progresses through his reads/lacks pre-snap read ability". Watching some of the Bama game and a few other snippets of Manziel film, I found this assertion to be mostly untrue. More often than not, Manziel does make more than the alleged "one read and done". There are instances where he does lock onto a receiver and the throws not there and he subsequently takes off running, but in my experience the past couple days watching him that seems to be the exeception not the rule. Here is the Bama 2013 film where I cite two great examples of Manziel going through his progressions/making a great pre snap read.
Johnny Manziel vs Alabama 2013:
At 0:29 we see Manziel progress through his reads from left to right, eventually settling on Evans running a deep route down the right sideline. Manziel throws a great pass where only Evans can make the catch.
At about 1:39 we see Manziel make a fantastic pre-snap read. Evans is lined up on the right side of the formation against press coverage. Manziel recognizes the press coverage and begins his read in the center of the field, quickly progressing to Evans. He floats another nice pass deep to Evans.
I'll leave it up to you guys to do your own homework but these are two great examples of Manziel progressing through his reads and making intelligent pre snap reads.
B ) "Manziel repeatedly and consistently breaks the pocket when it's uneccesary and struggles to play within a system." This perception, IMO, is the most parroted, off the mark load of crap there is about Manziel. Yes, Manziel does occasionally get jumpy in the pocket and moves to escape when he could easily just climb. Yes, the plays that Manziel is so famous for, the sandlot, run around like a wild monkey for five seconds and somehow find a way to get the ball to a receiver are a trademark of his. But the fact of the matter is a very large portion of Manziel's production and play comes from WITHIN the pocket and WITHIN the system he is playing in at A&M. Additionally, I believe many analysts and fans fail to recognize just how many designed runs and QB rollouts Manziel ran. What this amounts to is the perception that Manziel's game most resembles that of a highschool level game of backyard football. That is simply a fallacious conclusion. Watch the film (and I mean a whole game or set of games, not just the highlights, lowlights, etc) and you will see what I am talking about.
C ) "Manziel is average at best when it comes to throwing the football." Another unsubstantiated claim. Yes he is far from being a polished passer like Andrew Luck. But the kid can throw a fucking football.... If he can polish up his mechanics (and judging by the leap he made from his freshman to sophomore year at A&M, the kid is capable of making great strides) he has the potential be a very proficient passer. If you watch his games, you will see quite a few demonstrations of his ability to throw with touch and good ball placement.
After taking the time to really check this kid out, I no longer hate the thought of the Browns taking him in the draft, even at no.4 overall. That's not to say I'm all for it, but I can now see the rationale for wanting to do so. To put it simply, JFF has incredible upside and potential, and the majority of the so-called "holes" in his game are overblown and exaggerated by a bunch of schmucks (I used to be one, I know....)who make uneducated remarks about this young man that they heard somewhere else o picked up from watching a few plays. One of Manziel's biggest knocks, his ability to create and generate highlight melting plays, happens to be what makes him so frightening at the professional level. My single biggest concern with Manziel is that he will be unable to tone down the wild, daring side of his game and will wind up being pulverized by some ILB or SS. If he can play smart abd polish up the raw aspects of his game the sky is the limit for this kid. As it stands now, I am still hesistant to endorse going all in on this kid. I'm concerned that his competitiveness is going to wind up landing him on the injured reserve early and often in his career. Nonetheless, I no longer hate the thought of him playing for the Browns, and I can honestly say I can see why so many are infatuated with him. That being said, I still think the JFF bandwagoners love the cock and are a bunch of pathetic douchers!
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dear god
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There were 32 NFL teams and thousands of cameras at the combine.Manziel did NOT impress the Vikings coach with the sideshow.
He's an attention hog, a sellout - I mean, he's "all about football", then he
proceeds to not throw at the combine, so he can have a sideshow with all the media?
Really.
I'm not impressed either. I just don't see him being a smart pick for the Browns.
After that sideshow...I think Derek Carr, and Bortles are the guys who are legit
about being "all about football".
No wonder the Rams and Texans want to trade down.
And yes, Manziel's mo won't make it in the NFL - he may not be able to
read defenses any more than Quinn.
Manziel = .....Leinart with super scrambling ability?
There were 30 NFL teams and only a handful of cameras actually at JF's Pro Day.
Which one was the over reported sideshow?
Further, Manziel isn't really considered a top 5 pick, much less first overall, so the Rams and Tecans trading down have zero to do with him.
Sorry, but the only strong point made in that entire post was "Bah Humbug I don't like JF and that's that".
And I'm not even a JF fanboy.
There were 32 NFL teams and thousands of cameras at the combine.
There were 30 NFL teams and only a handful of cameras actually at JF's Pro Day.
Which one was the over reported sideshow?
Further, Manziel isn't really considered a top 5 pick, much less first overall, so the Rams and Texans trading down have zero to do with him.
Sorry, but the only strong point made in that entire post was "Bah Humbug I don't like JF and that's that".
And I'm not even a JF fanboy.
And GW Bush, and the NFL network, and ESPN. In all fairness, this stuff is getting crazy over reported. They did the same stuff for Bortles and Bridgewater, minus the ex-prez.
Problem is Johnny Legend thinks he's a #1 overall pick talent, at least in his own mind. Maybe he is, maybe he isn't. I wish the draft was tomorrow, so we could can all the rhetoric.
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I can't believe I'm saying this..... BUT after taking the time to watch some more film and read a few more articles breaking down Manziel's strengths and weaknesses I'm slowly being converted into a Johhny footbal believer. After spending the past couple months knocking Manziel (with what I will admit was a less than adequate base of knowledge for doing so) I now find myself seeing the other side of the fence. A few quick things I have discovered while studying Manziel that fly in the face of what his lowlights/detractors would have you believe is his modus operandi:
A) "JFF rarely progresses through his reads/lacks pre-snap read ability". Watching some of the Bama game and a few other snippets of Manziel film, I found this assertion to be mostly untrue. More often than not, Manziel does make more than the alleged "one read and done". There are instances where he does lock onto a receiver and the throws not there and he subsequently takes off running, but in my experience the past couple days watching him that seems to be the exeception not the rule. Here is the Bama 2013 film where I cite two great examples of Manziel going through his progressions/making a great pre snap read.
Johnny Manziel vs Alabama 2013:
At 0:29 we see Manziel progress through his reads from left to right, eventually settling on Evans running a deep route down the right sideline. Manziel throws a great pass where only Evans can make the catch.
At about 1:39 we see Manziel make a fantastic pre-snap read. Evans is lined up on the right side of the formation against press coverage. Manziel recognizes the press coverage and begins his read in the center of the field, quickly progressing to Evans. He floats another nice pass deep to Evans.
I'll leave it up to you guys to do your own homework but these are two great examples of Manziel progressing through his reads and making intelligent pre snap reads.
B ) "Manziel repeatedly and consistently breaks the pocket when it's uneccesary and struggles to play within a system." This perception, IMO, is the most parroted, off the mark load of crap there is about Manziel. Yes, Manziel does occasionally get jumpy in the pocket and moves to escape when he could easily just climb. Yes, the plays that Manziel is so famous for, the sandlot, run around like a wild monkey for five seconds and somehow find a way to get the ball to a receiver are a trademark of his. But the fact of the matter is a very large portion of Manziel's production and play comes from WITHIN the pocket and WITHIN the system he is playing in at A&M. Additionally, I believe many analysts and fans fail to recognize just how many designed runs and QB rollouts Manziel ran. What this amounts to is the perception that Manziel's game most resembles that of a highschool level game of backyard football. That is simply a fallacious conclusion. Watch the film (and I mean a whole game or set of games, not just the highlights, lowlights, etc) and you will see what I am talking about.
C ) "Manziel is average at best when it comes to throwing the football." Another unsubstantiated claim. Yes he is far from being a polished passer like Andrew Luck. But the kid can throw a fucking football.... If he can polish up his mechanics (and judging by the leap he made from his freshman to sophomore year at A&M, the kid is capable of making great strides) he has the potential be a very proficient passer. If you watch his games, you will see quite a few demonstrations of his ability to throw with touch and good ball placement.
After taking the time to really check this kid out, I no longer hate the thought of the Browns taking him in the draft, even at no.4 overall. That's not to say I'm all for it, but I can now see the rationale for wanting to do so. To put it simply, JFF has incredible upside and potential, and the majority of the so-called "holes" in his game are overblown and exaggerated by a bunch of schmucks (I used to be one, I know....)who make uneducated remarks about this young man that they heard somewhere else o picked up from watching a few plays. One of Manziel's biggest knocks, his ability to create and generate highlight melting plays, happens to be what makes him so frightening at the professional level. My single biggest concern with Manziel is that he will be unable to tone down the wild, daring side of his game and will wind up being pulverized by some ILB or SS. If he can play smart abd polish up the raw aspects of his game the sky is the limit for this kid. As it stands now, I am still hesistant to endorse going all in on this kid. I'm concerned that his competitiveness is going to wind up landing him on the injured reserve early and often in his career. Nonetheless, I no longer hate the thought of him playing for the Browns, and I can honestly say I can see why so many are infatuated with him. That being said, I still think the JFF bandwagoners love the cock and are a bunch of pathetic douchers!
GuNNerGatSKy said:
My single biggest concern with Manziel is that he will be unable to tone down the wild, daring side of his game and will wind up being pulverized by some ILB or SS. If he can play smart abd polish up the raw aspects of his game the sky is the limit for this kid. As it stands now, I am still hesistant to endorse going all in on this kid. I'm concerned that his competitiveness is going to wind up landing him on the injured reserve early and often in his career.
^+1, that's my biggest concern. At least in the highlights, there were plenty of times after a wild scramble, he just heaves up a prayer with terrible mechanics, and Evans answers the jump ball. That's not going to happen in the pros. So yes, I question his decision making. I'm also not overly fond of the way he's gung-ho on over commercializing himself. But I (we) don't have much say in the matter, should the Browns draft him, I'll cross my fingers and hope for the best.
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GuNNerGatSKy said:
My single biggest concern with Manziel is that he will be unable to tone down the wild, daring side of his game and will wind up being pulverized by some ILB or SS. If he can play smart abd polish up the raw aspects of his game the sky is the limit for this kid. As it stands now, I am still hesistant to endorse going all in on this kid. I'm concerned that his competitiveness is going to wind up landing him on the injured reserve early and often in his career.
^+1, that's my biggest concern. At least in the highlights, there were plenty of times after a wild scramble, he just heaves up a prayer with terrible mechanics, and Evans answers the jump ball. That's not going to happen in the pros. So yes, I question his decision making. I'm also not overly fond of the way he's gung-ho on over commercializing himself. But I (we) don't have much say in the matter, should the Browns draft him, I'll cross my fingers and hope for the best.
^+1, that's my biggest concern. At least in the highlights, there were plenty of times after a wild scramble, he just heaves up a prayer with terrible mechanics, and Evans answers the jump ball. That's not going to happen in the pros. So yes, I question his decision making. I'm also not overly fond of the way he's gung-ho on over commercializing himself. But I (we) don't have much say in the matter, should the Browns draft him, I'll cross my fingers and hope for the best.
Agreed. That's what I forgot to mention in my analysis, the prayers he heaved to Evans (hate when that happens, know I'm forgetting something but can't figure out what). I agree that is something that will generally not cut it in the NFL. I have to say though after watching all that Manziel film I'm a Mike Evans fanboy. That motherfucker can go up and catch a goddamn football. IMO, particularly from the standpoint of what the browns need in a no.2 receiver, Evans is the no.1 receiver in the draft. But back to JFF, I think his success will come down to his ability to play smart and not get obliterated. After watching the film I'm convinced he is capable of growing and developing his game in areas of need, again as evidenced by the growth seen from his freshman to sophomore year. Will he stay healthy long enough to mature in the NFL, that is question.
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There were 32 NFL teams and thousands of cameras at the combine.
There were 30 NFL teams and only a handful of cameras actually at JF's Pro Day.
Which one was the over reported sideshow?
Further, Manziel isn't really considered a top 5 pick, much less first overall, so the Rams and Texans trading down have zero to do with him.
Sorry, but the only strong point made in that entire post was "Bah Humbug I don't like JF and that's that".
And I'm not even a JF fanboy.
And GW Bush, and the NFL network, and ESPN. In all fairness, this stuff is getting crazy over reported. They did the same stuff for Bortles and Bridgewater, minus the ex-prez.
Problem is Johnny Legend thinks he's a #1 overall pick talent, at least in his own mind. Maybe he is, maybe he isn't. I wish the draft was tomorrow, so we could can all the rhetoric.
And GW Bush, and the NFL network, and ESPN. In all fairness, this stuff is getting crazy over reported. They did the same stuff for Bortles and Bridgewater, minus the ex-prez.
Problem is Johnny Legend thinks he's a #1 overall pick talent, at least in his own mind. Maybe he is, maybe he isn't. I wish the draft was tomorrow, so we could can all the rhetoric.
Why is that a bad quality?
I still think that I'm a #1 overall pick, even if I never pick up a football again.
I would rather have a guy in the middle of the first round who thinks he's a #1 than a guy at #1 who doesn't.
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