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Oh, yeah...scientists know mmgw is bogus. It's freakin SCIENCE

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  • MLD Woody MLD WoodyM Dedicated Conversation Starter Very Popular First Post Collaborator Posting Machine Reacting Well One Month Later One Year In Week One Done
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    MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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    All hail king Cysko

    wait.... fuck

    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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      Uh yeah, don't misinterpret my post as some sort of victory on your part. I'm not going to change my views from anything you say, and you aren't going to change yours from anything I say. Everyone wants to be last person to post in a thread so their e-peen gets bigger. The way Cal and WSS responded is proof of that. It's pointless in the grand scheme of things, cause e-peen won't put food on our table or improve your standing in life. You all want to fight to be kings of the outhouse, you go right ahead. 🙂

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      @osiris said:

      Uh yeah, don't misinterpret my post as some sort of victory on your part. I'm not going to change my views from anything you say, and you aren't going to change yours from anything I say. Everyone wants to be last person to post in a thread so their e-peen gets bigger. The way Cal and WSS responded is proof of that. It's pointless in the grand scheme of things, cause e-peen won't put food on our table or improve your standing in life. You all want to fight to be kings of the outhouse, you go right ahead. 🙂

      Personally I was just fucking around with you sir. I believe you are one of the smartest guys here.

      Even smarter if you caught the reference and from what movie... I think you know my opinion on man-made global warming. It probably won't change.

      😁

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        @osiris said:

        Uh yeah, don't misinterpret my post as some sort of victory on your part. I'm not going to change my views from anything you say, and you aren't going to change yours from anything I say. Everyone wants to be last person to post in a thread so their e-peen gets bigger. The way Cal and WSS responded is proof of that. It's pointless in the grand scheme of things, cause e-peen won't put food on our table or improve your standing in life. You all want to fight to be kings of the outhouse, you go right ahead. 🙂

        Personally I was just fucking around with you sir. I believe you are one of the smartest guys here.

        Even smarter if you caught the reference and from what movie... I think you know my opinion on man-made global warming. It probably won't change.

        😁

        WSS

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        @westside-steve said:

        Personally I was just fucking around with you sir. I believe you are one of the smartest guys here.

        Even smarter if you caught the reference and from what movie... I think you know my opinion on man-made global warming. It probably won't change.

        😁

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          DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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          I'm starting to tire of the 'clever' youtube responses to everything. I'm going to stop.

          "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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            @osiris said:

            Uh yeah, don't misinterpret my post as some sort of victory on your part. I'm not going to change my views from anything you say, and you aren't going to change yours from anything I say. Everyone wants to be last person to post in a thread so their e-peen gets bigger. The way Cal and WSS responded is proof of that. It's pointless in the grand scheme of things, cause e-peen won't put food on our table or improve your standing in life. You all want to fight to be kings of the outhouse, you go right ahead. 🙂

            Personally I was just fucking around with you sir. I believe you are one of the smartest guys here.

            Even smarter if you caught the reference and from what movie... I think you know my opinion on man-made global warming. It probably won't change.

            😁

            WSS

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            OsirisO Osiris wrote on last edited by
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            @westside-steve said:

            Personally I was just fucking around with you sir. I believe you are one of the smartest guys here.

            Even smarter if you caught the reference and from what movie... I think you know my opinion on man-made global warming. It probably won't change.

            😁

            WSS

            Damn it I didn't want to be forced to post in this thread but now you lured me back in. I'm afraid though I am a fan of Clint's work, that's one of his movies I didn't see.

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              The human contribution to Co2 levels is .9 of 1%...a fart in a hurricane.

              Pathetic how so many ignorant libtards support John Kerry, Obama, Al Gore and other alarmists propagating a god damned fart in a hurricane.... oblivious to the fact it is to advance a socialist world governance.

              Obamas goal is to redistribute wealth throughout the world, and a climate change scare is the perfect way by which to accomplish this.

              It is not we that are the "deniers" . We on the right know that global warming and cooling occurs, always has, always will, with or without mankind...rather it is you leftists that are the deniers. You either refuse to acknowledge the evidence of Obamas agenda that has been laid out in front of you...or you're simply too stupid to put 2+2 together.

              “Man Made Global warming is phony science that was concocted to justify implementation of an international political agenda. The idea of using ‘man-caused global warming’ as a ‘surrogate for war’ and as a way to ‘destroy excess wealth’ originated in American and UN-related think tanks such as the Club of Rome back in the 60′s and 70′s. This pseudo-science is the centerpiece of a phony environmental movement by which the UN hopes to redistribute wealth in the world (toward the super-rich and away from the people) to de-industrialize the industrialized countries (via the UN Kyoto Protocol-type carbon taxes, cap and trade schemes, etc.), and radically reduce the human population.”

              “The IPCC is essentially operating with pre-determined conclusions, namely that human activity and carbon emissions cause ‘global warming’ and other environmental and climate problems, even though there is little objective scientific evidence to demonstrate ‘global warming’ is in fact a real phenomenon,” Dr. Karlstrom says. Climate scientists working with the IPCC and other international bodies have been known to not only spin scientific data to fit their pre-determined conclusions, but also to outright fabricate “evidence” to support their idea of “man-made climate change.”

              Who would benefit from this catastrophically expensive agenda? Only the political and politically connected elite—the Goldman Sachs outfits that would reap billions from trading carbon permits; the Al Gores and corporate and political insiders that would amass fortunes from their ties to a government-rigged energy market and investments in politically correct technologies. And think of the power that governments would have if they controlled energy consumption. By controlling energy, you control people. No wonder governments have spent tens of billions of dollars promoting this scenario and supporting political panels like the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) to disseminate the desired “findings.”

              Even in wealthier countries, people who are affluent enough to afford the monetary costs could find their lives heavily regimented by government bureaucrats monitoring and limiting how many miles they may travel and what activities they may undertake.

              http://www.forbes.com/sites/markhendrickson/2012/09/16/climate-change-hoax-or-crime-of-the-century/2/

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                LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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                So again, did 99% of the science community go to a secret meeting where they all decided that they would come to the same conclusions? Because that sounds as crazy as all the 9/11 "truthers" who think that top down the government all planned it and no one slipped up and told the truth.

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                  C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                  It never was 99%. It was politically motivated - because

                  many scientists had no voice in the decision to support it.

                  They were just included, and many wanted their names removed

                  from the support list. We've been over this before.

                  There are thousands of climate scientists whose names are added

                  to the pro-bogus mmgw list, who never had a thing to do with the list,

                  and want nothing to do with it.

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                    LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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                    Source?

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                      C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                      More and more mmgw people are jumping the bogus ship of mmgw.

                      Yes, it was a UN political ploy all along. For control over, and making money from,

                      those countries with money.

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                      Green Guru James Lovelock on Climate Change: ‘I don’t think anybody really knows what’s happening. They just guess’ – Lovelock Reverses Himself on Global Warming

                      Lovelock, on BBC TV, slams the global warming claims including those of of the United Nations climate panel. 'They just guess. And a whole group of them meet together and encourage each other’s guesses.'

                      Lovelock was once one of the leading voices of climate alarm. See: 2006 Climate Shocker: Lovelock Predicted Global Warming Doom: 'Billions of us will die; few breeding pairs of people that survive will be in Arctic'

                      Fast Forward to April 2012: ‘Gaia’ scientist James Lovelock reverses himself: I was ‘alarmist’ about climate change & so was Gore! ‘The problem is we don’t know what the climate is doing. We thought we knew 20 years ago’

                      Lovelock becomes UN IPCC's biggest critic: Green Guru Lovelock Slams UN IPCC & Greens: ‘Whenever UN puts its finger in it seems to become a mess’ — ‘The green religion is now taking over from the Christian religion’ -- James Lovelock: ''IPCC is too politicized & too internalized' -- On Green religion: 'I don't think people have noticed that, but it's got all the sort of terms that religions use. The greens use guilt. You can't win people round by saying they are guilty for putting CO2 in the air'

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                        LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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                        http://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus

                        http://iopscience.iop.org/1748-9326/8/2/024024/article

                        Why would all of these scientists (97% of the published science articles on climate) collude to make up a lie? Scientists aren't some monolithic unit that all choose to come to the same conclusions regardless of what the facts say.

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                          http://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus

                          http://iopscience.iop.org/1748-9326/8/2/024024/article

                          Why would all of these scientists (97% of the published science articles on climate) collude to make up a lie? Scientists aren't some monolithic unit that all choose to come to the same conclusions regardless of what the facts say.

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                          @logicisforsquares said:

                          http://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus

                          http://iopscience.iop.org/1748-9326/8/2/024024/article

                          Why would all of these scientists (97% of the published science articles on climate) collude to make up a lie? Scientists aren't some monolithic unit that all choose to come to the same conclusions regardless of what the facts say.

                          In fact, scientists are trained to be skeptical of each other and any theory that does NOT have significant evidence. You will never convince Cal of this, though, so you'd be better off trying to convince someone a bit more open-minded about the topic.

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                            List of scientists opposing the mainstream scientific ...

                            Peer review|Scientists...|Scientists...|Scientists...

                            ... greenhouse gases, man- made sulfate emissions, solar variability ... James Lawrence (2011), The Inquisition of Climate Science, Columbia University ...

                            en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_scientists...of_global_warming - Cached

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                            tartling Number of Scientific Papers Disputed Human-Caused ...

                            The pie chart above says it all. Despite searching just over a year's worth of the scientific literature on global warming and climate change, one man's ...

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                            Peer-Reviewed Survey Finds Majority Of Scientists Skeptical ...

                            It is becoming clear that not only do many scientists dispute the asserted global warming crisis, but these skeptical scientists may indeed form a ...

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                            NASA Scientists Dispute Climate Change - Business Insider

                            ... that man-made carbon dioxide is having a ... With hundreds of well-known climate scientists and tens of thousands of other scientists ...

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                            SPECIAL REPORT: More Than 1000 International Scientists ...

                            ... More Than 1000 International Scientists Dissent Over Man-Made Global ... more-than-1000-international-scientists-dissent-over-manmade-global-warming-claims ...

                            www.climatedepot.com/2011/05/31/special-report-more-than... - Cached

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                            Startling Number of Scientific Papers Disputed Human-Caused ...

                            The pie chart above says it all. Despite searching just over a year's worth of the scientific literature on global warming and climate change, one man's ...

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                            http://www.petitionproject.org/

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                            17,200 Scientists Dispute Global Warming - Digital Journal

                            Is there a scientific consensus on the topic of man made global warming? If you read the news in the major media you would have cause to believe that there is. The ...

                            www.digitaljournal.com/article/162241 - Cached

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                            .: U.S. Senate Committee on Environment and Public Works ...

                            ... Over 400 Prominent Scientists Disputed Man-Made Global Warming Claims in 2007 . Senate Report Debunks "Consensus" Complete U.S. Senate Report Now Available: ...

                            www.epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Minority... - Cached
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                              MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by MLD Woody
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                              Good luck guys.

                              Oh man, he did the Google search thing

                              Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                                1. Global warming controversy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
                                  • History|
                                  • Mainstream...|
                                  • Political...|
                                  • See also
                                  The Heartland Institute refused requests by scientists to have their names removed, stating that ...
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                                  Weird climate? yep.

                                  But man made from CO2? Nah. Not buyin it, and many scientists don't, either. Like I said, their names were listed with orgs, but they never actually signed on, or changed their minds.

                                  When mmgw became "climate change" .... that is the true indicator that mmgw is in now.

                                  No honest person wants to be controlled, and TAXED, and have their country bankrupted, over a controversy. The moves to quelch scientific dissent speaks

                                  volumes.

                                  The UN wants their money. It was a great cause that really hasn't panned out.

                                  Now, if they would just talk the destruction of millions of acres of the world's virgin rain forests.....

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                                  woodypeckerhead - he asked for sources. How the hell else can I go and find them?

                                  you really need to grow up, and learn about things to be able to contribute anything to this

                                  board that isn't wanton, snarky jackass glib comments.

                                  You come off as the boards Dom Delouise's dumb little kid next door.

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                                    Please note that Cal is once again employing the tactic of showing a really large number of scientists (in this case, ~17,200) who dispute MMGW, without including the fact that this represents a tiny fraction of the global scientific community.

                                    From Nov 2012 to Dec 2013 alone, over 2000 peer reviewed articles on GW were published. Of these, 9000 authors wrote in support of MMGW. One, just one author, disputed MMGW.

                                    So what happened to those ~17,2000 scientists who dispute MMGW? Where are their peer-reviewed publications?

                                    Ugh, I'm getting sucked in again. Calgon take me away!

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                                      MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                                      "Their work wasn't allowed to be published! The rest of the evil liberal scientific committee shut them down! MMGW is a hoax. It snowed this winter!"

                                      Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                                        @logicisforsquares said:

                                        http://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus

                                        http://iopscience.iop.org/1748-9326/8/2/024024/article

                                        Why would all of these scientists (97% of the published science articles on climate) collude to make up a lie? Scientists aren't some monolithic unit that all choose to come to the same conclusions regardless of what the facts say.

                                        In fact, scientists are trained to be skeptical of each other and any theory that does NOT have significant evidence. You will never convince Cal of this, though, so you'd be better off trying to convince someone a bit more open-minded about the topic.

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                                        @osiris said:

                                        In fact, scientists are trained to be skeptical of each other and any theory that does NOT have significant evidence. You will never convince Cal of this, though, so you'd be better off trying to convince someone a bit more open-minded about the topic.

                                        So in this particular case being skeptical is a bad thing? Or good? Which is it guys?

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                                          MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                                          You're skeptical in the sense you don't just believe things immediately. You need to see the facts, science, evidence etc. Then, you put it all together to get am idea. You don't listen to anyone "just because", you listen to the evidence.

                                          That isn't the same as blind skepticism. That isn't the same as refusing to look at the evidence and then not providing any good evidence to a contrary opinion.

                                          It shouldn't be that hard to follow.

                                          Skepticism in the sense of a peer review process, not a "scientists are all evil liberals" process.

                                          Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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