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  • thenew23 thenew23T
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    thenew23T thenew23 wrote on last edited by
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    The Browns can have 90 in camp. We currently have 73 under contract, and 10 draft picks.

    QB - Hoyer / Tanney

    RB - Tate / Ogbonnaya / Lewis / Baker / Whitaker / Cook

    FB - Pressley

    WR - Gordon / Hawkins / Burleson / Benjamin / Little / Cooper / Johnson / Gurley / Vernon

    TE - Cameron / Dray / Barnidge / Gray / Milton / Smith

    OT - Thomas / Schwartz / Wallace / Faulk / Fragel

    OG - Greco / Pinkston / McQuiston / Gilkey

    C - Mack / Warren

    DT - Taylor / Hughes / Kitchen

    DE - Rubin / D.Bryant / Winn / A.Bryant / Sanford / Henderson / Staples

    OLB - Kruger / Sheard / Mingo / Groves / Martin

    ILB - Dansby / Robertson / Carder / Eubanks / Magee

    CB - Haden / Skrine / Trufant / McFadden / Poyer / Adams / Posey / Heath / Hughes

    S - Whitner / Gipson / Bademosi / Slaughter / Aubrey

    ST - Yount LS / Cundiff K / Lanning P / Bogotay K

    Where are the weak spots?

    Can this team be competetive as it stands, or do we need one or more impact players to make some noise in 2014?

    Usually teams add more than 7 UDFAs, so who gets cut in favor of a young guy?

    Thoughts...

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      The Browns can have 90 in camp. We currently have 73 under contract, and 10 draft picks.

      QB - Hoyer / Tanney

      RB - Tate / Ogbonnaya / Lewis / Baker / Whitaker / Cook

      FB - Pressley

      WR - Gordon / Hawkins / Burleson / Benjamin / Little / Cooper / Johnson / Gurley / Vernon

      TE - Cameron / Dray / Barnidge / Gray / Milton / Smith

      OT - Thomas / Schwartz / Wallace / Faulk / Fragel

      OG - Greco / Pinkston / McQuiston / Gilkey

      C - Mack / Warren

      DT - Taylor / Hughes / Kitchen

      DE - Rubin / D.Bryant / Winn / A.Bryant / Sanford / Henderson / Staples

      OLB - Kruger / Sheard / Mingo / Groves / Martin

      ILB - Dansby / Robertson / Carder / Eubanks / Magee

      CB - Haden / Skrine / Trufant / McFadden / Poyer / Adams / Posey / Heath / Hughes

      S - Whitner / Gipson / Bademosi / Slaughter / Aubrey

      ST - Yount LS / Cundiff K / Lanning P / Bogotay K

      Where are the weak spots?

      Can this team be competetive as it stands, or do we need one or more impact players to make some noise in 2014?

      Usually teams add more than 7 UDFAs, so who gets cut in favor of a young guy?

      Thoughts...

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      Z Zombo wrote on last edited by
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      @thenew23 said:

      Where are the weak spots?

      1. QB - Hoyer / Tanney

      Another vet will come in before the draft, probably not one who will be expected to start. We are obviously drafting a guy that we think could be a long term answer.

      2. ILB - Dansby / Robertson / Carder / Eubanks / Magee

      Dansby in his 30's, nobody else here is going to excite Mike Pettine, a new major player will be added here re draft/fa

      3 (tie). CB - Haden / Skrine / Trufant / McFadden / Poyer / Adams / Posey / Heath / Hughes

      WR - Gordon / Hawkins / Burleson / Benjamin / Little / Cooper / Johnson / Gurley / Vernon

      CB & WR are similar in that we've got a terrific #1, and we have added depth ... but we still need that #2 ... and that's pretty important.

      4. OG - Greco / Pinkston / McQuiston / Gilkey

      We sure pay Thomas and mack a lot, but they have spare parts around them. Greco is versatile, Pinkston hasn't stayed healthy, we need another good young guard in the mix.

      5. S - Whitner / Gipson / Bademosi / Slaughter / Aubrey

      Gipson had a decent season at FS, Whitner is very good, but an aging stopgap. we need another player.

      Zombo

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        @thenew23 said:

        Where are the weak spots?

        1. QB - Hoyer / Tanney

        Another vet will come in before the draft, probably not one who will be expected to start. We are obviously drafting a guy that we think could be a long term answer.

        2. ILB - Dansby / Robertson / Carder / Eubanks / Magee

        Dansby in his 30's, nobody else here is going to excite Mike Pettine, a new major player will be added here re draft/fa

        3 (tie). CB - Haden / Skrine / Trufant / McFadden / Poyer / Adams / Posey / Heath / Hughes

        WR - Gordon / Hawkins / Burleson / Benjamin / Little / Cooper / Johnson / Gurley / Vernon

        CB & WR are similar in that we've got a terrific #1, and we have added depth ... but we still need that #2 ... and that's pretty important.

        4. OG - Greco / Pinkston / McQuiston / Gilkey

        We sure pay Thomas and mack a lot, but they have spare parts around them. Greco is versatile, Pinkston hasn't stayed healthy, we need another good young guard in the mix.

        5. S - Whitner / Gipson / Bademosi / Slaughter / Aubrey

        Gipson had a decent season at FS, Whitner is very good, but an aging stopgap. we need another player.

        Zombo

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        CunilingusRice_BrownsFanC CunilingusRice_BrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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        Zombo said:

        1. QB - Hoyer / Tanney

        Another vet will come in before the draft, probably not one who will be expected to start. We are obviously drafting a guy that we think could be a long term answer.

        2. ILB - Dansby / Robertson / Carder / Eubanks / Magee

        Dansby in his 30's, nobody else here is going to excite Mike Pettine, a new major player will be added here re draft/fa

        3 (tie). CB - Haden / Skrine / Trufant / McFadden / Poyer / Adams / Posey / Heath / Hughes

        WR - Gordon / Hawkins / Burleson / Benjamin / Little / Cooper / Johnson / Gurley / Vernon

        CB & WR are similar in that we've got a terrific #1, and we have added depth ... but we still need that #2 ... and that's pretty important.

        4. OG - Greco / Pinkston / McQuiston / Gilkey

        We sure pay Thomas and mack a lot, but they have spare parts around them. Greco is versatile, Pinkston hasn't stayed healthy, we need another good young guard in the mix.

        5. S - Whitner / Gipson / Bademosi / Slaughter / Aubrey

        Gipson had a decent season at FS, Whitner is very good, but an aging stopgap. we need another player.

        Zombo

        I agree with all of this. I would also include RB. The Browns have Tate and no depth.

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          VaporTrailV VaporTrail wrote on last edited by VaporTrail
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          Just used fanspeak for a draft, and here's who I added. I went with two rookie QBs instead of an aging vet - Garcia/Delhomme/Campbell/Wallace, no thank you.

          QB - Hoyer / Carr1b/ Vaughan7 / Tanney - Carr falls to 26, decent time to take him. Vaughan in the 7th has a cannon for an arm.

          RB - Tate / Ogbonnaya / Lewis / Baker / Grice4b/ Whitaker / Cook - Give Grice a shot to battle it out for RB2/3, he's a decent pass blocker

          FB - Pressley

          WR - Gordon / Watkins1a/ Hawkins / Burleson / Benjamin / Janis5/ Little / Cooper / Johnson / Gurley / Vernon - Passing on Julio Jones was a bad move, we don't repeat that mistake this year. Take Janis in the 5th, see if he can make the team.

          TE - Cameron / Dray / Barnidge / Gray / Milton / Smith

          OT - Thomas / Schwartz / Wallace / Faulk / Fragel

          OG - Greco / Turner3b / Dozier4a / Pinkston / McQuiston / Gilkey - Turner is the most underrated guard in the draft and as good as the top 3. Back-to-back picks on guards make everyone nervous, but without this pick, depth is an issue on the line.

          C - Mack / Warren

          DT - Taylor / Hughes / Kitchen

          DE - Rubin / D.Bryant / Winn / A.Bryant / Sanford / Henderson / Staples

          OLB - Kruger / Sheard / Mingo / Groves / Martin

          ILB - Dansby / Robertson / Skov3a/ Carder / Lattimore6/ Eubanks / Magee - Skov provides depth, as there's no one of note behind Dansby and Robertson. Lattimore expected to be a ST'er but may prove to be a capable backup

          CB - Haden / Fuller2/ Skrine / Trufant / McFadden / Poyer / Adams / Posey / Heath / Hughes - Fuller is the best DB in this class, Skrine moves to nickel

          S - Whitner / Gipson / Bademosi / Slaughter / Aubrey

          ST - Yount LS / Cundiff K / Lanning P / Bogotay K

          UDFA considerations - Guiton, Boyd, kickers

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            CunilingusRice_BrownsFanC CunilingusRice_BrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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            I'd be stoked if the Browns drafted Skov. Big, smart dude who I believe would fit really nice next to Dansby.

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              PoeticGP PoeticG wrote on last edited by
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              QB - Carr / Hoyer / Murray
              RB - Tate / Seastrunk / Ogbonnaya / Lewis / Baker / Whitaker / Cook
              FB - Copeland / Pressley
              WR - Gordon / Landry / Hawkins / Burleson / Benjamin / Little / Cooper / Johnson / Gurley / Vernon
              TE - Cameron / Lyerla / Dray / Barnidge / Gray / Milton / Smith
              OT - Thomas / Matthews / Wallace / Faulk / Fragel
              OG - Su'a-Filo / Schwartz / Greco / Pinkston / McQuiston
              C - Mack / Warren

              DT - Taylor / Hughes / Kitchen
              DE - Rubin / D.Bryant / Winn / A.Bryant / Sanford / Henderson / Staples
              OLB - Kruger / Sheard / Mingo / Groves / Martin
              ILB - Dansby / Robertson / Carder / Eubanks / Magee
              CB - Haden / Jean-Baptiste / Skrine / Trufant / McFadden / Poyer / Adams / Posey / Heath / Hughes
              S - Whitner / Gipson / Bademosi / Slaughter / Aubrey

              ST - Yount LS / Cundiff K / Lanning P / Boswell K

              Round 1 Pick 4: Jake Matthews, OT, Texas A&M
              Round 1 Pick 26: Derek Carr, QB, Fresno State
              Round 2 Pick 3: Xavier Su'a-Filo, OG, UCLA
              Round 3 Pick 7: Stanley Jean-Baptiste, CB, Nebraska
              Round 3 Pick 19: Jarvis Landry, WR, LSU
              Round 4 Pick 6: Lache Seastrunk, RB, Baylor
              Round 4 Pick 27: Aaron Murray, QB, Georgia
              Round 5 Pick 5: J.C. Copeland, FB, LSU
              Round 6 Pick 4: Colt Lyerla, TE, Oregon
              Round 7 Pick 3: Chris Boswell, K, Rice

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                I'd be stoked if the Browns drafted Skov. Big, smart dude who I believe would fit really nice next to Dansby.

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                miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
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                @cunilingusrice_brownsfan said:

                I'd be stoked if the Browns drafted Skov. Big, smart dude who I believe would fit really nice next to Dansby.

                you're such a girl.

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                  C ClevelandBigDawg wrote on last edited by
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                  I dont think there is any way we actually draft 10 rookies. I bet we take 7 or 8 while using 2 or 3 to trade up or for next year picks.

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                    Flyin JF Flyin J wrote on last edited by
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                    There should be a rule on this forum that says you have to fill out your profile before posting so we have more ammo to harass with.

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                      @thenew23 said:

                      Where are the weak spots?

                      1. QB - Hoyer / Tanney

                      Another vet will come in before the draft, probably not one who will be expected to start. We are obviously drafting a guy that we think could be a long term answer.

                      2. ILB - Dansby / Robertson / Carder / Eubanks / Magee

                      Dansby in his 30's, nobody else here is going to excite Mike Pettine, a new major player will be added here re draft/fa

                      3 (tie). CB - Haden / Skrine / Trufant / McFadden / Poyer / Adams / Posey / Heath / Hughes

                      WR - Gordon / Hawkins / Burleson / Benjamin / Little / Cooper / Johnson / Gurley / Vernon

                      CB & WR are similar in that we've got a terrific #1, and we have added depth ... but we still need that #2 ... and that's pretty important.

                      4. OG - Greco / Pinkston / McQuiston / Gilkey

                      We sure pay Thomas and mack a lot, but they have spare parts around them. Greco is versatile, Pinkston hasn't stayed healthy, we need another good young guard in the mix.

                      5. S - Whitner / Gipson / Bademosi / Slaughter / Aubrey

                      Gipson had a decent season at FS, Whitner is very good, but an aging stopgap. we need another player.

                      Zombo

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                      ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by
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                      Zombo said:

                      1. QB - Hoyer / Tanney

                      Another vet will come in before the draft, probably not one who will be expected to start. We are obviously drafting a guy that we think could be a long term answer.

                      2. ILB - Dansby / Robertson / Carder / Eubanks / Magee

                      Dansby in his 30's, nobody else here is going to excite Mike Pettine, a new major player will be added here re draft/fa

                      3 (tie). CB - Haden / Skrine / Trufant / McFadden / Poyer / Adams / Posey / Heath / Hughes

                      WR - Gordon / Hawkins / Burleson / Benjamin / Little / Cooper / Johnson / Gurley / Vernon

                      CB & WR are similar in that we've got a terrific #1, and we have added depth ... but we still need that #2 ... and that's pretty important.

                      4. OG - Greco / Pinkston / McQuiston / Gilkey

                      We sure pay Thomas and mack a lot, but they have spare parts around them. Greco is versatile, Pinkston hasn't stayed healthy, we need another good young guard in the mix.

                      5. S - Whitner / Gipson / Bademosi / Slaughter / Aubrey

                      Gipson had a decent season at FS, Whitner is very good, but an aging stopgap. we need another player.

                      Zombo

                      Prettyy solid evaluation. Especially since I think pretty much the same. I might kick out WR. I think we added a couple of players who will help in Hawkins and Burelson. Gordon and Cameron have emerged to the point it will free up the other outside guy.

                      If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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                        chocoC choco wrote on last edited by
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                        I Worry about Gordon going down though. Some better insurance would be a nice thing to have.

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                        • Z Zombo

                          @thenew23 said:

                          Where are the weak spots?

                          1. QB - Hoyer / Tanney

                          Another vet will come in before the draft, probably not one who will be expected to start. We are obviously drafting a guy that we think could be a long term answer.

                          2. ILB - Dansby / Robertson / Carder / Eubanks / Magee

                          Dansby in his 30's, nobody else here is going to excite Mike Pettine, a new major player will be added here re draft/fa

                          3 (tie). CB - Haden / Skrine / Trufant / McFadden / Poyer / Adams / Posey / Heath / Hughes

                          WR - Gordon / Hawkins / Burleson / Benjamin / Little / Cooper / Johnson / Gurley / Vernon

                          CB & WR are similar in that we've got a terrific #1, and we have added depth ... but we still need that #2 ... and that's pretty important.

                          4. OG - Greco / Pinkston / McQuiston / Gilkey

                          We sure pay Thomas and mack a lot, but they have spare parts around them. Greco is versatile, Pinkston hasn't stayed healthy, we need another good young guard in the mix.

                          5. S - Whitner / Gipson / Bademosi / Slaughter / Aubrey

                          Gipson had a decent season at FS, Whitner is very good, but an aging stopgap. we need another player.

                          Zombo

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                          miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
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                          Zombo said:

                          1. QB - Hoyer / Tanney

                          Another vet will come in before the draft, probably not one who will be expected to start. We are obviously drafting a guy that we think could be a long term answer.

                          2. ILB - Dansby / Robertson / Carder / Eubanks / Magee

                          Dansby in his 30's, nobody else here is going to excite Mike Pettine, a new major player will be added here re draft/fa

                          3 (tie). CB - Haden / Skrine / Trufant / McFadden / Poyer / Adams / Posey / Heath / Hughes

                          WR - Gordon / Hawkins / Burleson / Benjamin / Little / Cooper / Johnson / Gurley / Vernon

                          CB & WR are similar in that we've got a terrific #1, and we have added depth ... but we still need that #2 ... and that's pretty important.

                          4. OG - Greco / Pinkston / McQuiston / Gilkey

                          We sure pay Thomas and mack a lot, but they have spare parts around them. Greco is versatile, Pinkston hasn't stayed healthy, we need another good young guard in the mix.

                          5. S - Whitner / Gipson / Bademosi / Slaughter / Aubrey

                          Gipson had a decent season at FS, Whitner is very good, but an aging stopgap. we need another player.

                          Zombo

                          nicely done sir. i would also say (as someone had posted earlier) to draft another RB as a third of those guys on our roster now are useless.

                          i would make #2 WR and #2 CB top priority.

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                            The Browns can have 90 in camp. We currently have 73 under contract, and 10 draft picks.

                            QB - Hoyer / Tanney

                            RB - Tate / Ogbonnaya / Lewis / Baker / Whitaker / Cook

                            FB - Pressley

                            WR - Gordon / Hawkins / Burleson / Benjamin / Little / Cooper / Johnson / Gurley / Vernon

                            TE - Cameron / Dray / Barnidge / Gray / Milton / Smith

                            OT - Thomas / Schwartz / Wallace / Faulk / Fragel

                            OG - Greco / Pinkston / McQuiston / Gilkey

                            C - Mack / Warren

                            DT - Taylor / Hughes / Kitchen

                            DE - Rubin / D.Bryant / Winn / A.Bryant / Sanford / Henderson / Staples

                            OLB - Kruger / Sheard / Mingo / Groves / Martin

                            ILB - Dansby / Robertson / Carder / Eubanks / Magee

                            CB - Haden / Skrine / Trufant / McFadden / Poyer / Adams / Posey / Heath / Hughes

                            S - Whitner / Gipson / Bademosi / Slaughter / Aubrey

                            ST - Yount LS / Cundiff K / Lanning P / Bogotay K

                            Where are the weak spots?

                            Can this team be competetive as it stands, or do we need one or more impact players to make some noise in 2014?

                            Usually teams add more than 7 UDFAs, so who gets cut in favor of a young guy?

                            Thoughts...

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                            G GuNNerGatSKi wrote on last edited by
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                            @thenew23 said:

                            The Browns can have 90 in camp. We currently have 73 under contract, and 10 draft picks.

                            QB - Hoyer / Tanney

                            Obviously gonna add at least one guy here from the draft, most likely a vet like Grossman who is familiar witb the Shanny system. My hope is that we get to nab manziel or bortles IF they slide down the board. If not, give me Jimmy G in the second and Tom Savage in the fifth or sixth.

                            RB - Tate / Ogbonnaya / Lewis / Baker / Whitaker / Cook

                            Need some more talent/youth here. I would love to nab Jeremy Hill, kid has tremendous talent just needs to get his goddamn head in the game and out of his ass. Storm Johnson as well.

                            FB - Pressley

                            Love that we finally have a real FB. Would still love to get a guy in the draft, preferably JC Copeland.

                            WR - Gordon / Hawkins / Burleson / Benjamin / Little / Cooper / Johnson / Gurley / Vernon

                            Honestly, if we only added a late round WR or didn't draft one at all I think we can now get by here. I think it would be very very stupid to do so though with so many fantastic wide receivers in this draft. Love me some Evans, Matthews, Kelvin Benjamin. Need a big bodied SOB to create mismatches and aid our red zone O.

                            TE - Cameron / Dray / Barnidge / Gray / Milton / Smith

                            We serviceable at TE. I could definitely dig taking a flyer on Colt Lyerla one the third say of the draft though. Another young stud who needs to get his head out of his ass. Worth the risk IMO.

                            OT - Thomas / Schwartz / Wallace / Faulk / Fragel

                            A) either draft a tackle, preferably Zack Martin late in the first, Bitonio in the second, another promising prospect in a later round (tackle is deep in this draft) or see below

                            OG - Greco / Pinkston / McQuiston / Gilkey

                            😎 take a road grader to play RG (Dakota Dozier, Sua Filo) and give Schwartz another year to sack up. Honestly I can see us taking a guard and a tackle in this draft. Nice to have warm bodies with some talent to develop on the line.

                            C - Mack / Warren

                            Good to go now that mack is back for two more years at bare minimum. I would forego taking a center in this draft to develop and focus my attention elsewhere. We can always move another OL to center or take one next year as insurance.

                            DT - Taylor / Hughes / Kitchen

                            Taylor is a beast, and the two guys behind him can play too. Wouldn't be a bad idea to consider if a good talent at DT slides, but again I would focus elsewhere.

                            DE - Rubin / D.Bryant / Winn / A.Bryant / Sanford / Henderson / Staples

                            Another position group that is very solid, damn near excellent. The only thing missing is an absolute unstoppable monstrosity, buy this are hard to come by. If by some insane miracle we could get Clowney I would take him in a heartbeat, even though I think he is a better 4-3 scheme fit.

                            OLB - Kruger / Sheard / Mingo / Groves / Martin

                            Again solid, not yet spectacular. Mingo needs to ball out this year. Sheard is a badass. Kruger disappoints me. I'm torn between taking K. Mack at four or any number of other moves we could make.... All I know is sheard/mack as our base and mingo solely used as a designated pass rusher makes me all giddy inside.

                            ILB - Dansby / Robertson / Carder / Eubanks / Magee

                            I think Dansby gives us a place to start now at ILB. We need another talented rookie to throw in the mix. Mosley, Jones, Smallwood. Robertson is serviceable at best IMO. The other three scrubs can kick rocks for all I care.

                            CB - Haden / Skrine / Trufant / McFadden / Poyer / Adams / Posey / Heath / Hughes

                            We could really use a no.2 corner who is solid and can play press man like a boss. Skrine is good as a no.2 but outstanding as a nickel. I have a lot of respect for him considering all the action he gets with Haden on the opposite side locking down half the field. Our opponents hate Haden 😎 Curious to see what Trufant is capable of and if Mcfadden can develop some more.

                            S - Whitner / Gipson / Bademosi / Slaughter / Aubrey

                            I think whitner will be a home run in free agency come game day. Gipson. He is polarizing for me. On one hand he is a decent FS and on the other I feel we can do much much better. I'm very curious if my man crush midget Lamarcus Joyner could get away with playing FS in the NFL. Kid is absolutely electric as a DB. He played safety his first two seasons in college so why not. As for the rest of these guys, I expect very little.

                            ST - Yount LS / Cundiff K / Lanning P / Bogotay K

                            We can live with these guys.

                            Where are the weak spots?

                            Can this team be competetive as it stands, or do we need one or more impact players to make some noise in 2014?

                            Usually teams add more than 7 UDFAs, so who gets cut in favor of a young guy?

                            Thoughts...

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