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  • with her ankles above her ears.

    @miktoxic said:

    with her ankles above her ears.

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  • @miktoxic said:

    with her ankles above her ears.

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    @nuckin-futz said:

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    fukin prick.

    you won't let it go will ya?

    lol.

  • I'm no professional scout, but I've watched the tape of the top 4 QBs in this class and this is the order i've put them in based on what's on the tape

    1. Teddy Twatwater

    Has ridiculous short and intermediate accuracy. His deep ball needs work. Highest football IQ of the bunch, takes what the defense gives him, goes through his progressions, and picks up on blitzes. If I had to pick a QB of these four and start them in September, Teddy would be the one. He ran a pro-style offense at Louisville. His size is a bit of a concern, he could put on 10-15 lbs. But he's the same size as Matt Ryan, and no one questions him about his size.

    2. Johnny Manziel

    The quickest QB, has a 6th sense at avoiding defenders. Has a low release, which doesn't help considering he's 5'11. However, shorter QBs can succeed, and we've seen that. However, Russell Wilson has a high release, which helps balance out the fact that he's 5'11 -6'0. Manziel has a great arm, and can make any throw. I feel as if his pocket presence is underrated. He can stand in the pocket and deliver an accurate throw. When plays break down, no one is better than Johnny Football at making something happen. He has the toughest mentality and in my opinion biggest will to win out of any of the four. However, if he takes as many shots as he did in college, he won't be in the league for long. He needs to avoid those.

    3. Derek Carr

    Derek Carr has a beautiful arm, and can make any throw on the field. He has excellent deep ball accuracy. However, he played in a gimmicky offense with lots of screen passes. The competition wasn't as great, and he laid an egg against USC. When he;s under pressure, his mechanics fail him. He is a hard worker, but I honestly think he wont be a great QB in the NFL.

    4. Blake Bortles

    Blake Bortles is the least ready of the four QBs. He'll make some great throws, then he'll make some terrible throws. What makes him so tempting to take is his size and athleticism. He has the highest ceiling of any of the QBs. He needs 2-3 years before he's ready to be thrown into the fire. If the Texans or Jaguars take him and start him right away, I don't believe he'll have much success.

  • No, Blake Bortles is Bo Callahan.

  • Derek Carr = Vontae Mack. No matter what homey.

  • Would you just listen to brownie for once? Feel my poetic processes for a minute and embrace the magical prophetic energies that I've been kickin' for my boy DC. Carr is ice.

  • Derek Carr is going to throw more interceptions than TD's throughout his first two seasons.

    And POG will still be calling him ice.

  • He's still calling .22 snubnose and tr ice.

  • I take Johnny Footbal if it is one of the Z "top 3"

    Actually, I like Clowney with our first pick and Reach up a bit for Grappalo at #26.

  • 2. Johnny Manziel


    The quickest QB ADoug


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    actually, JM is not the quickest qb.



    Brett Smith, qb, Wyoming. FAST 40 time.


  • Well. Now I'm sold on Manziel.

  • i saw that today. that's one man i can't stand. he bitched about coaching favre and compared that experience to what'd be like to coach JF. said coaching favre aged him 20 years.

    awwwww, mike. someone actually made you do your flippin job?

    didn't know it took favre nine years to become a good QB though.

  • 9-7 2 years in a row... oh i feel so sorry for those poor Packer fans... wtf i would love a couple of back to back 500+ seasons. And how the hell is saying Manziel could be the next Favre if he tones down the schoolyard shit and gets the right coaching a bad thing?

  • Keep in mind that Holmgren absolutely SUCKED as a GM.

    Mike

  • 9-7 2 years in a row... oh i feel so sorry for those poor Packer fans... wtf i would love a couple of back to back 500+ seasons. And how the hell is saying Manziel could be the next Favre if he tones down the schoolyard shit and gets the right coaching a bad thing?

    @j0hnnybg00d said:

    9-7 2 years in a row... oh i feel so sorry for those poor Packer fans... wtf i would love a couple of back to back 500+ seasons. And how the hell is saying Manziel could be the next Favre if he tones down the schoolyard shit and gets the right coaching a bad thing?

    if 9 and 7 is all you strive for that's pretty lame.

  • his name should never be mentioned on this site and fatbody should never again comment on anything Browns

  • @j0hnnybg00d said:

    9-7 2 years in a row... oh i feel so sorry for those poor Packer fans... wtf i would love a couple of back to back 500+ seasons. And how the hell is saying Manziel could be the next Favre if he tones down the schoolyard shit and gets the right coaching a bad thing?

    if 9 and 7 is all you strive for that's pretty lame.

    @miktoxic said:

    if 9 and 7 is all you strive for that's pretty lame.

    You took it wrong. I would love to win it all but it all starts with putting a couple of winning seasons together and that hasn't happened yet since the return. Not back to back anyways.

  • Guys were not picking Bo Callahan at 4. We're getting Vontae Mack so who cares what the Walrus thinks

  • Look at how many franchise QBs entered the while fat fuck dined on Lerner's money.

    Just shut up.

    Z

  • A lot of the Draft pundits are coming out saying Manziel is a Boom or Bust type pick.

    Latest says the Rams are genuinely interested in him - at #2 or #13 I don't know, but that's the latest.

    Pretty much everyone has been saying that all the QB's this year need to sit and learn, and that Bortles is the long term most likely to succeed.

    After all the hoopla late last year, I can't believe how badly this QB class has just fallen apart after it was supposed to be so stellar.