The Good The Bad The Ugly of QB draft years
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All this backs me up with my thoughts that the top rated QB in any draft year is NOT necessarily a "Franchise QB", as some may believe. Obviously, there have been years when teams would have been wise to "wait 'till next year".
Mike
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All this backs me up with my thoughts that the top rated QB in any draft year is NOT necessarily a "Franchise QB", as some may believe. Obviously, there have been years when teams would have been wise to "wait 'till next year".
Mike
All this backs me up with my thoughts that the top rated QB in any draft year is NOT necessarily a "Franchise QB", as some may believe. Obviously, there have been years when teams would have been wise to "wait 'till next year".
Mike
That was my prime motivation in starting this thread. Some years you just aren't going to get a decent QB....even though teams may think they are out there.
2007: Looked good, no? The freak at #1 who could throw 60 yards from his knees. Maybe he should have stayed on his knees to make all his throws. Brady Quinn, hometown boy from the Golden Dome. Well, he ended up about the same way as Aerys Targaryen...who also wore a golden dome.
And sometime it is not the QB you think that will emerge as a superstar from a drafta:
1991: Both Dan McGwire at #16 and Todd Marinovich at #24 were drafted ahead of a guy taken at #33 by the name of Brett Favre.
2000: Obviously we don't need to remind people about who was taken at #199 of that draft
2001: The superstar QB of that draft was not the guy taken #1, Vick, but the guy taken #32: Brees
1979: Jack Thompson, Steve Fuller, both high in the first round. (taken in round 3: a guy with the same name as a western state) where I am going fly fishing with my son in October)
1973: Good QBs taken in round 1: Bert Jones/....but Dan Fouts was taken in round 3
1972: We go back to where the best QB taken was a guy named Sipe in round 13!
Of couse, some years, the guy that is supposed to be it....is it, or at least does pretty well:
1970 Bradshaw
1971 Plunkett (2 SB wins, though maybe Ken Anderson was better overall)
1983 Elway
1989 Aikman
1998 Peyton
and etc.
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All this backs me up with my thoughts that the top rated QB in any draft year is NOT necessarily a "Franchise QB", as some may believe. Obviously, there have been years when teams would have been wise to "wait 'till next year".
Mike
That was my prime motivation in starting this thread. Some years you just aren't going to get a decent QB....even though teams may think they are out there.
2007: Looked good, no? The freak at #1 who could throw 60 yards from his knees. Maybe he should have stayed on his knees to make all his throws. Brady Quinn, hometown boy from the Golden Dome. Well, he ended up about the same way as Aerys Targaryen...who also wore a golden dome.
And sometime it is not the QB you think that will emerge as a superstar from a drafta:
1991: Both Dan McGwire at #16 and Todd Marinovich at #24 were drafted ahead of a guy taken at #33 by the name of Brett Favre.
2000: Obviously we don't need to remind people about who was taken at #199 of that draft
2001: The superstar QB of that draft was not the guy taken #1, Vick, but the guy taken #32: Brees
1979: Jack Thompson, Steve Fuller, both high in the first round. (taken in round 3: a guy with the same name as a western state) where I am going fly fishing with my son in October)
1973: Good QBs taken in round 1: Bert Jones/....but Dan Fouts was taken in round 3
1972: We go back to where the best QB taken was a guy named Sipe in round 13!
Of couse, some years, the guy that is supposed to be it....is it, or at least does pretty well:
1970 Bradshaw
1971 Plunkett (2 SB wins, though maybe Ken Anderson was better overall)
1983 Elway
1989 Aikman
1998 Peyton
and etc.
That was my prime motivation in starting this thread. Some years you just aren't going to get a decent QB....even though teams may think they are out there.
2007: Looked good, no? The freak at #1 who could throw 60 yards from his knees. Maybe he should have stayed on his knees to make all his throws. Brady Quinn, hometown boy from the Golden Dome. Well, he ended up about the same way as Aerys Targaryen...who also wore a golden dome.
And sometime it is not the QB you think that will emerge as a superstar from a drafta:
1991: Both Dan McGwire at #16 and Todd Marinovich at #24 were drafted ahead of a guy taken at #33 by the name of Brett Favre.
2000: Obviously we don't need to remind people about who was taken at #199 of that draft
2001: The superstar QB of that draft was not the guy taken #1, Vick, but the guy taken #32: Brees
1979: Jack Thompson, Steve Fuller, both high in the first round. (taken in round 3: a guy with the same name as a western state) where I am going fly fishing with my son in October)
1973: Good QBs taken in round 1: Bert Jones/....but Dan Fouts was taken in round 3
1972: We go back to where the best QB taken was a guy named Sipe in round 13!
Of couse, some years, the guy that is supposed to be it....is it, or at least does pretty well:
1970 Bradshaw
1971 Plunkett (2 SB wins, though maybe Ken Anderson was better overall)
1983 Elway
1989 Aikman
1998 Peyton
and etc.
Gipper,
That's why I think this is a great thread. I have read SO many times that "We have to get our franchise QB THIS year" that I could barf! There may not be a franchise QB IN this draft. We'll know what the Pros think on May 8th.
Mike
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That was my prime motivation in starting this thread. Some years you just aren't going to get a decent QB....even though teams may think they are out there.
2007: Looked good, no? The freak at #1 who could throw 60 yards from his knees. Maybe he should have stayed on his knees to make all his throws. Brady Quinn, hometown boy from the Golden Dome. Well, he ended up about the same way as Aerys Targaryen...who also wore a golden dome.
And sometime it is not the QB you think that will emerge as a superstar from a drafta:
1991: Both Dan McGwire at #16 and Todd Marinovich at #24 were drafted ahead of a guy taken at #33 by the name of Brett Favre.
2000: Obviously we don't need to remind people about who was taken at #199 of that draft
2001: The superstar QB of that draft was not the guy taken #1, Vick, but the guy taken #32: Brees
1979: Jack Thompson, Steve Fuller, both high in the first round. (taken in round 3: a guy with the same name as a western state) where I am going fly fishing with my son in October)
1973: Good QBs taken in round 1: Bert Jones/....but Dan Fouts was taken in round 3
1972: We go back to where the best QB taken was a guy named Sipe in round 13!
Of couse, some years, the guy that is supposed to be it....is it, or at least does pretty well:
1970 Bradshaw
1971 Plunkett (2 SB wins, though maybe Ken Anderson was better overall)
1983 Elway
1989 Aikman
1998 Peyton
and etc.
Gipper,
That's why I think this is a great thread. I have read SO many times that "We have to get our franchise QB THIS year" that I could barf! There may not be a franchise QB IN this draft. We'll know what the Pros think on May 8th.
Mike
Gipper,
That's why I think this is a great thread. I have read SO many times that "We have to get our franchise QB THIS year" that I could barf! There may not be a franchise QB IN this draft. We'll know what the Pros think on May 8th.
Mike
Or, like I pointed out....the guy that turns out to be the franchise guy ain't the one or ones people think it will be....Brett Favre/Brady/Montana etc.
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Awesome thread Gip love your research (question: how much time DO you spend researching these informative threads you post on a regular basis?)
I think '83 is easily the beat QB DRAFT in history. I mean cmon, Elway, Marino, AND J. Kelly? Fucking stacked...
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Awesome thread Gip love your research (question: how much time DO you spend researching these informative threads you post on a regular basis?)
I think '83 is easily the beat QB DRAFT in history. I mean cmon, Elway, Marino, AND J. Kelly? Fucking stacked...
GuNNerGatSKy said:
Awesome thread Gip love your research (question: how much time DO you spend researching these informative threads you post on a regular basis?)
I think '83 is easily the beat QB DRAFT in history. I mean cmon, Elway, Marino, AND J. Kelly? Fucking stacked...
It would take a lot less time if I didn't have to wait for PFR and other sites to download their fucking ads every time I want to make a click. The raw data is there and could be had in a nanosecond probably. It is the flash ads that suck and take so much time.
And 83 probably was certainly the best year. Three Hall of Famers. But, like I said, 1971 was deep also.
2004 was good. 2012 may be very good.....even discounting Brandon Weeden. (Luck/RG/Tannehill/Wilson/Foles.....how come the Browns got the only dog of the bunch? Just our luck.)
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GuNNerGatSKy said:
Awesome thread Gip love your research (question: how much time DO you spend researching these informative threads you post on a regular basis?)
I think '83 is easily the beat QB DRAFT in history. I mean cmon, Elway, Marino, AND J. Kelly? Fucking stacked...
It would take a lot less time if I didn't have to wait for PFR and other sites to download their fucking ads every time I want to make a click. The raw data is there and could be had in a nanosecond probably. It is the flash ads that suck and take so much time.
And 83 probably was certainly the best year. Three Hall of Famers. But, like I said, 1971 was deep also.
2004 was good. 2012 may be very good.....even discounting Brandon Weeden. (Luck/RG/Tannehill/Wilson/Foles.....how come the Browns got the only dog of the bunch? Just our luck.)
It would take a lot less time if I didn't have to wait for PFR and other sites to download their fucking ads every time I want to make a click. The raw data is there and could be had in a nanosecond probably. It is the flash ads that suck and take so much time.
And 83 probably was certainly the best year. Three Hall of Famers. But, like I said, 1971 was deep also.
2004 was good. 2012 may be very good.....even discounting Brandon Weeden. (Luck/RG/Tannehill/Wilson/Foles.....how come the Browns got the only dog of the bunch? Just our luck.)
Oh I agree flash ads are a nightmare. I was going to school for computer info. Systems some time ago (before I knocked up the old lady and became a father and gave up my education to make money NOW in the oilfield) and we did a little project for a networking class where we had to examine the effects ads on websites had on network and browser loading speeds. Very interesting that without the onslaught of ads polluting most websites, the internet would by far run much smoother and much faster. But when your browser has to load a gazillion different scripts and languages in order to display one web page (flash, java, html, etc etc) it results in the aformentioned increase in loading time that you are referring to. The more protocols and scripts/languages a web browser has to juggle obviously leads to a less enjoyable interwebs experience..... But I digress.
I agree that 2012 is most definitely looking like a home run for drafted QBs. Well have to wait and see, but I can imagine at least two HOFers from that class. And I readlly don't know how we managed to pick the fucking doozie dud jackass out of that group..... It's baffling. Our luck drafting QBs has to turn around sometime..... I just hope Farmer and Pettine can get it right because so far I really like both of them. I love how they are running this organization in such a low key, hush hush, professional manner and are not afraid to make big decisions and pull the trigger without hesitation. In Farmer we trust (i guess?).
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