Global warming in Ohio
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Well, I am being funny. I'm impressed you can see me now... @@
with the artic cold temps, the snow has accumulated to a point, over the last three weeks, higher than I have seen it in the last
50 years, except for one or two years 76-78, and once in the eighties.
In 1977, the heavy, consistent snow caused the American pheasant to die off from starvation and cold...
Trust me, there used to be those pheasant all over Ohio when I was a kid.
But the extremely cold, extended for weeks temps, with chill factors down to -25 degrees, is unheard of around here,...
ever.
And, global temps have minutely gone -down- consistently over the last decade.
Just kinda warms my heart to think of spring - desperately.
I've always maintained that weather patterns fluctuate over the eons/centuries/decades, and for various lenghts of time.
Warm and cold trends are distinct variations of normal, consistent weather patterns that occur, depending
on geographical locations.
Yesterday, for the first time it weeks, it got above freezing - it even went to 43 degrees.
I remember when I was a kid in the early sixties, we lived on the farm, and our first Christmas there, I was hoping
my parents got me my first shotgun. I ended up following clues, from the first present, to the basement near the furnace, out on the back porch. in the front yard in the tree near the driveway, in the bathroom medicene cabinet, to the back porch, and finally,
all the way out to Chico's barn.
Which, even to this day, older as I am, still twinges me emotionally, because I will always be grateful for Chico, a burgandy burro,
my buddy around the farm, for saving my life...
anyways, I went all over grinning from clue to clue (hey, I used to read Sherlock Holmes novels in the third grade),
in a t-shirt, no coat. (I did get my beautiful 12-gage, still have it to this day)
any other winter, that would be impossible- you would require a warm coata .
weather patterns ebb and flow, the trends are there for all to see.
It's just goofy to have giant political movement based on some information from one warming trend, and
call it a historically accurate happening that only started whenever the beginning of that trend started, and
create a global alleged crisis on it.
It's just goofy to have giant political movement based on some information from one warming trend, and
call it a historically accurate happening that only started whenever the beginning of that trend started, and
create a global alleged crisis on it.
I hate that global warming has become a political issue, rather than a mere scientific/environmental one, because fanatics on one side or another will be positive the phenomenon doesn't exist solely based upon which side of the aisle supports it. It's quite sad.
Fcuk politics here. Man is an absolute bitch to the environment and we need to clean up our messes and practices.
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It's just goofy to have giant political movement based on some information from one warming trend, and
call it a historically accurate happening that only started whenever the beginning of that trend started, and
create a global alleged crisis on it.
I hate that global warming has become a political issue, rather than a mere scientific/environmental one, because fanatics on one side or another will be positive the phenomenon doesn't exist solely based upon which side of the aisle supports it. It's quite sad.
Fcuk politics here. Man is an absolute bitch to the environment and we need to clean up our messes and practices.
mz. said:
I hate that global warming has become a political issue, rather than a mere scientific/environmental one, because fanatics on one side or another will be positive the phenomenon doesn't exist solely based upon which side of the aisle supports it. It's quite sad.Fcuk politics here. Man is an absolute bitch to the environment and we need to clean up our messes and practices.
Nobody here is willing to scratch the surface of the sacrifices it would take to lower worldwide CO2 emission.
WSS
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mz. said:
I hate that global warming has become a political issue, rather than a mere scientific/environmental one, because fanatics on one side or another will be positive the phenomenon doesn't exist solely based upon which side of the aisle supports it. It's quite sad.Fcuk politics here. Man is an absolute bitch to the environment and we need to clean up our messes and practices.
Nobody here is willing to scratch the surface of the sacrifices it would take to lower worldwide CO2 emission.
WSS
Nobody here is willing to scratch the surface of the sacrifices it would take to lower worldwide CO2 emission.
WSS
You have no idea whether people would or not. But that's not even the topic at hand as many many folks believe it isn't even a problem...
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@shepwrite said:
The world is warming at a record rate... t impact. Water levels will rise and land will be flooded... but there's still a lot of room to make it better or worse.I believe it is correct to say that the universe is warming at a record rate................................(although I strongly question the methodology of this pop science).
Hmmmmmmmmmm The temperature on the moon is increasing. The temperature on Mars is increasing.
Climate change is measured in THOUSANDS of years not a couple of decades.
Screw 'Global Warming'. I have more important things to contend with.
The earth has a FFFFFFFEEEEEEVVVVVVVVEEEEEERRRRRRRR.
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Nobody here is willing to scratch the surface of the sacrifices it would take to lower worldwide CO2 emission.
WSS
You have no idea whether people would or not. But that's not even the topic at hand as many many folks believe it isn't even a problem...
mz. said:
You have no idea whether people would or not.Sure I do mz the pussy.
We're all gonna die (or at least be doomed) in less than five years (tipping point according to Nobel winner Gore
) and not ONE of the alarmists here is doing jack shit about it.But that's not even the topic at hand as many many folks believe it isn't even a problem...
OK.
It's huge; a crisis!!!!!!!!
So f*cking what?
Obvammy, more comfortable in the land of coconut and banana trees, just turned up the thermostat to 72.
I guess soebody else will have to sacrifice huh? You?
WSS
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I think my solar panels, hybrid vehicle, extremely limited red meat, collaborated drive schedule,electric limiting miser controls and system,electric heat pump, electric hot water on demand systems and tons of extra insulation and high efficiency windows and other tactics my family does are more than ONE thing as an alarmists we are doing.
You are more than likely referring to yourself in doing nothing. Hell even my hosting company has gone with the more expensive blade hardware because of the electrical efficiency over cheaper hardware solutions. My other operations uses netmeetings instead of driving to every location to have meetings and other centralized services like remote management.
I cant wait for OLED displays to come down in cost because of the low energy consumption. All of my statements and bills are now completely paperless and electronic.
So in business as well as personal there are a lot of people sacrificing in order to bring more balance to our consumption and rescource sharing.
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mz. said:
You have no idea whether people would or not.Sure I do mz the pussy.
We're all gonna die (or at least be doomed) in less than five years (tipping point according to Nobel winner Gore
) and not ONE of the alarmists here is doing jack shit about it.But that's not even the topic at hand as many many folks believe it isn't even a problem...
OK.
It's huge; a crisis!!!!!!!!
So f*cking what?
Obvammy, more comfortable in the land of coconut and banana trees, just turned up the thermostat to 72.
I guess soebody else will have to sacrifice huh? You?
WSS
Sure I do mz the pussy.
We're all gonna die (or at least be doomed) in less than five years (tipping point according to Nobel winner Gore
) and not ONE of the alarmists here is doing jack shit about it.You have no idea how any of us live, man. But at least you're smart enough (presumably) to believe in science, which puts you in the upper echelon of brains around here.
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I believe it is correct to say that the universe is warming at a record rate................................(although I strongly question the methodology of this pop science).
Hmmmmmmmmmm The temperature on the moon is increasing. The temperature on Mars is increasing.
Climate change is measured in THOUSANDS of years not a couple of decades.
Screw 'Global Warming'. I have more important things to contend with.
The earth has a FFFFFFFEEEEEEVVVVVVVVEEEEEERRRRRRRR.
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man made global warming enthusiats should take a long read about solar flares.
The sun. Trust me, human beings are not causing global warming on Mars and the Moon...
unless Nasty Pelosi can fart that far... (well, she's full of.. it)
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Sure I do mz the pussy.
We're all gonna die (or at least be doomed) in less than five years (tipping point according to Nobel winner Gore
) and not ONE of the alarmists here is doing jack shit about it.You have no idea how any of us live, man. But at least you're smart enough (presumably) to believe in science, which puts you in the upper echelon of brains around here.
mz. said:
You have no idea how any of us live, man. But at least you're smart enough (presumably) to believe in science, which puts you in the upper echelon of brains around here.Great mz the pussy actually I do know a little but for arguments sake why don't you tell me just how spartan your personal life is amd how much more you're willing to give up for Saint Barack (who keeps the whitehouse at 72)
C'mon young dude.
It's the life of the planet at stake right??
For me? Sure there's a rise in global temps.
Sure I guess CO2 from humans plays a part.
Sure it's probably also a natural cycle.
But I don't care much.
We AREN"T going to reduce the population grrowth and we are NOT going to live in an eco friendly manner.
And the growing economies of the really overpopulated hell holes of the world don't give a rat's ass.
WSS
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Cal: do you truly believe man is not causing damage to the Earth?
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The subject is global warming. Man damaging the earth is a different deal.
The destruction of the rainforests is a huge damage to the earth, and may be
increasing the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere. but even that is hardly
significant at all, compared to the effects of the sun.
Correlate solar flares with temps on the earth, and voila ! You have global warming.
but we're talking millions and millions of acres that has been destroyed.
and pollution? Is a sick and twisted way to gain anything from ruining, eventually, everything.
Two different issues. If I were pres, I would go after any company that intentionally dumps poisons
into the earth, water or air. Shut em down til their tech is revamped, given federal funding assistance...
It can cost many millions of dollars to install filters,etc.
but to tell people they have to vote Democratic/socialist and stop driving pickup trucks and SUV's and they
should paint the earth white to reflect the sun and shiver in their basements in winter with no heat and be taxed in a bijillion
ways to fund whatever to not have the earth spontaneously combust in ten years...
bogus. fraudulent manipulation of others, a cherry picked science-"backed" emotional appeal for whatever
Al Gore and cronies dream of...
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.
It's solar flares, gradual tempurature fluctuation trends that warm and cold over centuries, over our entire history.
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I wish I had a magic solar powered giant truck that I could run for a few weeks
to cause some global warming
I wish I had a magic solar powered giant truck that I could run for a few weeks
to cause some global warming
maybe a food pile would be good in the back of your woods
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You're talkin compost? No, there are proper ways to compose. I wouldn't mess up our woods that way.
If it gets above freezing today (it's only 27 now).. I'm going to go out and start pruning the old fruit trees.
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@shepwrite said:
This isn't a majority opinion. It's a consensus of the legitimate scientific community. nice source there shep.....legitimate
i love these threads.....just the same regurgitation of the arguments of both sides....
anyone here and ACTUAL scientist? then dont speak for them.....
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mz. said:
You have no idea how any of us live, man. But at least you're smart enough (presumably) to believe in science, which puts you in the upper echelon of brains around here.Great mz the pussy actually I do know a little but for arguments sake why don't you tell me just how spartan your personal life is amd how much more you're willing to give up for Saint Barack (who keeps the whitehouse at 72)
C'mon young dude.
It's the life of the planet at stake right??
For me? Sure there's a rise in global temps.
Sure I guess CO2 from humans plays a part.
Sure it's probably also a natural cycle.
But I don't care much.
We AREN"T going to reduce the population grrowth and we are NOT going to live in an eco friendly manner.
And the growing economies of the really overpopulated hell holes of the world don't give a rat's ass.
WSS
But I don't care much.
Shocking.
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Cal: do you truly believe man is not causing damage to the Earth?
**************************************************
The subject is global warming. Man damaging the earth is a different deal.
The destruction of the rainforests is a huge damage to the earth, and may be
increasing the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere. but even that is hardly
significant at all, compared to the effects of the sun.
Correlate solar flares with temps on the earth, and voila ! You have global warming.
but we're talking millions and millions of acres that has been destroyed.
and pollution? Is a sick and twisted way to gain anything from ruining, eventually, everything.
Two different issues. If I were pres, I would go after any company that intentionally dumps poisons
into the earth, water or air. Shut em down til their tech is revamped, given federal funding assistance...
It can cost many millions of dollars to install filters,etc.
but to tell people they have to vote Democratic/socialist and stop driving pickup trucks and SUV's and they
should paint the earth white to reflect the sun and shiver in their basements in winter with no heat and be taxed in a bijillion
ways to fund whatever to not have the earth spontaneously combust in ten years...
bogus. fraudulent manipulation of others, a cherry picked science-"backed" emotional appeal for whatever
Al Gore and cronies dream of...
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.
It's solar flares, gradual tempurature fluctuation trends that warm and cold over centuries, over our entire history.
The subject is global warming. Man damaging the earth is a different deal.
Yes and no, cal. Despite what some folks thing, scientists track a trend in global warming, which they believe is a result of the damage we are causing. So, the subject is global warming, but that warming is just a piece of data to rally behind to warn folks of the damage we are doing.
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You're talkin compost? No, there are proper ways to compose. I wouldn't mess up our woods that way.
If it gets above freezing today (it's only 27 now).. I'm going to go out and start pruning the old fruit trees.
You're talkin compost? No, there are proper ways to compose. I wouldn't mess up our woods that way.
If it gets above freezing today (it's only 27 now).. I'm going to go out and start pruning the old fruit trees.
No, a feed pile for the wild game. you can take a 4" pvc pipe drill a few holes in the side and then take a 2 liter bottle cut it in half, use one as a cap and the other as the funnel. fill it full of corn and secure it along side a tree about 2 to 4 inches from touching the ground and as the wild game comes by and eats it will continually poor through the bottom. (a simple gravity feeder)
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Well, that's functional, but ugly and unnatural. we are keeping our woods natural woods.
Some big stumps that are left over from a few big trees being logged and sold about 40 years ago... are the platforms for
a pile of grain we keep refilling...
that, and this big flat rock on the other side of the bog.
But our woods are incredibly scenic, and beautiful. We want to keep it that way.
Although, if it's just a tree out in a field or at the end of a long backyard, it would work fine...
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mz. said:
You have no idea how any of us live, man. But at least you're smart enough (presumably) to believe in science, which puts you in the upper echelon of brains around here.Great mz the pussy actually I do know a little but for arguments sake why don't you tell me just how spartan your personal life is amd how much more you're willing to give up for Saint Barack (who keeps the whitehouse at 72)
C'mon young dude.
It's the life of the planet at stake right??
For me? Sure there's a rise in global temps.
Sure I guess CO2 from humans plays a part.
Sure it's probably also a natural cycle.
But I don't care much.
We AREN"T going to reduce the population grrowth and we are NOT going to live in an eco friendly manner.
And the growing economies of the really overpopulated hell holes of the world don't give a rat's ass.
WSS
Great mz the pussy actually I do know a little but for arguments sake why don't you tell me just how spartan your personal life is amd how much more you're willing to give up for Saint Barack (who keeps the whitehouse at 72)
C'mon young dude.
It's the life of the planet at stake right??
For me? Sure there's a rise in global temps.
Sure I guess CO2 from humans plays a part.
Sure it's probably also a natural cycle.
But I don't care much.
We AREN"T going to reduce the population grrowth and we are NOT going to live in an eco friendly manner.
And the growing economies of the really overpopulated hell holes of the world don't give a rat's ass.
WSS
I agree Steve.
Most of my apathy on the matter stems from 1 person, which is sad when I think about it.
Global Warming/Climate change is an enormous racket and until "the scientific community" and "everyone else awash in the hysteria" can convince the world's most recognizable spokesperson to stop being such an effing hypocrite, it will continue to be simply a racket.
Why don't the major players in the "scientific community" step up & tell that buffoon to get his act together, and he'd be much more effective? Because their funding would be cut and they would get their name on "the list."
I also don't like Cameron fcuk Diaz (etc.) telling me how to live my life all because she dug under her sofa and bought a Prius to drive to & fro' the grocery store when she's home for 2 weeks out of the year. Because for the other 50, she's flying around in a plane & helicopter with Drew Barrymore & Redman & providing the world with the dumbest half hour on television and the world's shittiest movies. Not to mention the catering trays that could feed a village for a month that get thrown away daily. She & the rest of that "community" can shove it up their collective asses (no offense, Shep). No wonder the world hates us, thanks to the internet & TV that & the other side of the coin (Jerry Springer-ville) is what has been piping to the rest of the world for 30+ years.
And speaking of hybrids, if said "scientific community" was so effing brilliant, where is the diesel electric hybrid? A Diesel is infinitely more efficient than a gasoline ICE and particularly excels on "highway miles." Also, almost conveniently coincidentally, this is where the (current) electric engine struggles. The diesel's efficiency is severely lost when driving "city miles." Which, wait for it.......
IS WHERE THE MOTHER-EFFING HYBRID EXCELS. FCUK!
Ethanol should be abandoned and it's funding & effort be focused on all forms of biodiesel. B100 (100% Biodiesel - no petroleum) emits zero greenhouse gases, and you don't lose the mileage (efficiency) or horsepower (work) that you do with ethanol. The nationwide distribution system is already in place - logistics nightmare, solved. But, since this is still a political problem and not an environmental one, we are forced into this dumbshit racket. Fat-fcuk should give his Nobel Prize to the Rudolf Diesel estate and abandon his self-imposed notion that he is actually making a difference - and I don't know, maybe shut his face for about 5-10 years.
So, until said geniuses (politicians, not scientists - the tech is already here) make an honest attempt at a real solution they can all suck on the 4" tailpipe of my F350 7.3L that currently makes about 510bhp & 684 ft/lbs of torque that can still roast 35" tires at 25mph as I dump 15ppm of sulfur into the atmosphere every time I stand on it.
I suck.
Sure, luck means a lot in football. Not having a good quarterback is bad luck. -Don Shula
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