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  • Would you trade the #4 pick to Dallas for their #16 and #46 and next years #1?

    Latest rumor, has Dallas offering their #16 and #46 this year plus their #1 next year for our #4 this year.

    VaporTrailV DieHardBrownsFanD 2 Replies

  • I'd strongly consider it. Especially depending on who goes 1-3

  • They want Manziel. I'd probably do it. Then we draft 16, 26, 30whatever, and 46. That's 4 players in the top 50 which should fill 4 holes. Plus 2 first rounders next year if we want to move up to pick a QB.

    hoortaH 1 Reply

  • If they believe in Hoyer and don't see much separation between the QBs in the top 5, or even top 8 for that matter, I would jump all over it. We could walk into day 3 with solid prospects at 3-4 positions of need...CB, WR, G, ILB, and could package some day three picks to move up into the second for a 3th pick, or up into the third for a 3rd pick in those rounds.

    But then again, its like Farmer said...is the trade off for the guy we would get at 4 be worth the guy we would get at 16 and 46 this year and with the extra pick next year? I have a feeling it would be.

  • Yes.

    Then you can make a trade to try to have 3 1st round picks.

  • Well, lets see: #4 has a Draft Value rating of 1800 points

    #16 is worth 1000 pts, and #46 worth 440 pts. So, this year you are trading 1800 for 1440 pts. Plus the pick next year would have a range of from 3000 for the #1 overall down to 590 if the Cowboys won the Super Bowl.

    So 1800 points for a range of 2030 pts. to 4400 pts.

    Point value wise, you would be pretty far ahead in the long run. The question, as always, is what use would you make of those picks.

  • yeah if mack and clowney come off the board before 4, I'd def hit that trade with dallas.Question is, do they give us their #1 next year or do we take Romo? It's one or the other. If they don't want to give up Romo that's fine, but then we get their #1 next year and maybe a 2nd the following year.

    Browns149B 1 Reply

  • @walterwhite said:

    No. I take Manziel for ourselves so we can win our division

    Is this guy not deleted yet?

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  • 2 third round picks for Kirk Cousins of the Redskins?

    CLEinCHIC 1 Reply

  • I think it all depends on what happens with the Top 3 picks - I think its a great trade if Clowney is off the board.

    #16 - Denard

    #26: Carr

    #35: Robinson (Penn state)

    #46: Yakely

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  • CLEinCHIC CLEinCHI

    I think it all depends on what happens with the Top 3 picks - I think its a great trade if Clowney is off the board.

    #16 - Denard

    #26: Carr

    #35: Robinson (Penn state)

    #46: Yakely

    @cleinchi said:

    I think it all depends on what happens with the Top 3 picks - I think its a great trade if Clowney is off the board.

    #16 - Denard

    #26: Carr

    #35: Robinson (Penn state)

    #46: Yakely

    I like it...I had something similar in mind:

    16: Gilbert/Dennard

    26: Carr

    35: Benjamin/Robinson

    46: Yankee

    3a: Top safety

    3b: Christian Jones

    3c: Charles Simms (move up from the 4th)

    At that point, it would be pretty crazy to imagine how our already young team would look going into the draft next year if all of the above picks worked out...and I don't think it's a stretch to think they could.

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    @cleinchi said:

    I think it all depends on what happens with the Top 3 picks - I think its a great trade if Clowney is off the board.

    #16 - Denard

    #26: Carr

    #35: Robinson (Penn state)

    #46: Yakely

    I like it...I had something similar in mind:

    16: Gilbert/Dennard

    26: Carr

    35: Benjamin/Robinson

    46: Yankee

    3a: Top safety

    3b: Christian Jones

    3c: Charles Simms (move up from the 4th)

    At that point, it would be pretty crazy to imagine how our already young team would look going into the draft next year if all of the above picks worked out...and I don't think it's a stretch to think they could.

    @bummie said:

    I like it...I had something similar in mind:

    16: Gilbert/Dennard

    26: Carr

    35: Benjamin/Robinson

    46: Yankee

    3a: Top safety

    3b: Christian Jones

    3c: Charles Simms (move up from the 4th)

    At that point, it would be pretty crazy to imagine how our already young team would look going into the draft next year if all of the above picks worked out...and I don't think it's a stretch to think they could.

    I think Kyle Fuller would be a better pick at 16 than those 2. Fuller is a beast at DB great speed, good hands. At Virginia Tech he was man to man and was a huge part of the secondary. Also he was coached by one of the best D coordinators in Bud Foster so you know the kid has it mentally.

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  • NO...1 4th rounder.

  • DawgPoundFL2827D DawgPoundFL2827

    @bummie said:

    I like it...I had something similar in mind:

    16: Gilbert/Dennard

    26: Carr

    35: Benjamin/Robinson

    46: Yankee

    3a: Top safety

    3b: Christian Jones

    3c: Charles Simms (move up from the 4th)

    At that point, it would be pretty crazy to imagine how our already young team would look going into the draft next year if all of the above picks worked out...and I don't think it's a stretch to think they could.

    I think Kyle Fuller would be a better pick at 16 than those 2. Fuller is a beast at DB great speed, good hands. At Virginia Tech he was man to man and was a huge part of the secondary. Also he was coached by one of the best D coordinators in Bud Foster so you know the kid has it mentally.

    @dawgpoundfl2827 said:

    I think Kyle Fuller would be a better pick at 16 than those 2. Fuller is a beast at DB great speed, good hands. At Virginia Tech he was man to man and was a huge part of the secondary. Also he was coached by one of the best D coordinators in Bud Foster so you know the kid has it mentally.

    I wouldn't be upset with it. He's in my top 3. Gilbert is my number 1. I think he's the best option for a press man corner. Dennard and Fuller are a split for me. I'd take either of them. Pettine would get the most from each.

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    Would you trade the #4 pick to Dallas for their #16 and #46 and next years #1?

    Latest rumor, has Dallas offering their #16 and #46 this year plus their #1 next year for our #4 this year.

    @ohioborn said:

    Latest rumor, has Dallas offering their #16 and #46 this year plus their #1 next year for our #4 this year.

    [citation needed]

    Seriously, dude. This looks like bullshit, where's your source?

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  • T Thomaspro

    2 third round picks for Kirk Cousins of the Redskins?

    @thomaspro said:

    2 third round picks for Kirk Cousins of the Redskins?

    No, Hoyer = Cousins

  • CLEinCHIC CLEinCHI

    @thomaspro said:

    2 third round picks for Kirk Cousins of the Redskins?

    No, Hoyer = Cousins

    @cleinchi said:

    No, Hoyer = Cousins

    Tru dat. Munch Bishop calls Cousins "Hoyer Lite", because they both played at Mich. St.

    Speaking of Michigan St. QBs:

    RIP Earl Morrall who died this week. Starter of SB III where Colts were highly favored over Joe Namath's Jets. Plus, it was he, not Bob Griese who primarily guided the Dolphins through their undefeated season in 1972.

  • The only rumor that I've read is that the Cowboys are determine to get Manziel.

    Here's an article that says it's absolutely not true.

    http://nfl.si.com/2014/04/29/2014-nfl-draft-dallas-cowboys-not-drafting-johnny-manziel/?eref=sihp

  • @mike-h said:

    No rumor that I can find.

    It seems to have started on WKNR this morning.

    "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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