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  • T Taco918

    @vaportrail said:

    Why the hell is this thread still going? It's an obviously lopsided trade for the Browns, and the guy who came up with it hasn't sourced the "rumor" to anyone.

    Any rumor including Jerry Jones making a splash turns into a possibility. I mean would it really shock you if Jones offered that deal?

    @taco918 said:

    Any rumor including Jerry Jones making a splash turns into a possibility. I mean would it really shock you if Jones offered that deal?

    Again, if this was a real rumor, there would be someone talking about it. I haven't heard a peep about this out of anyone noteworthy since this thread was started.

    T 1 Reply

  • here's hoping the next 9 days go by in lightning speed.

  • C cuwoohio

    If the Browns really have someone in mind for the #4, and he's still there, I say no. If he's not still there, then it looks like it could be a good move.

    It has to fit what the Browns are trying to accomplish with this draft, not what Jerry is trying to do to stay relevant.

    @cuwoohio said:

    If the Browns really have someone in mind for the #4, and he's still there, I say no. If he's not still there, then it looks like it could be a good move.

    It has to fit what the Browns are trying to accomplish with this draft, not what Jerry is trying to do to stay relevant.

    Thanks! You just perfectly said what I wanted to say. Since I was having trouble putting it into print, I decided to just "quote" you.

    Mike

    IN DORSEY I TRUST
  • VaporTrailV VaporTrail

    @taco918 said:

    Any rumor including Jerry Jones making a splash turns into a possibility. I mean would it really shock you if Jones offered that deal?

    Again, if this was a real rumor, there would be someone talking about it. I haven't heard a peep about this out of anyone noteworthy since this thread was started.

    @vaportrail said:

    Again, if this was a real rumor, there would be someone talking about it. I haven't heard a peep about this out of anyone noteworthy since this thread was started.

    There is no such thing as a real rumor. The only thing that is real is either a fact or a falsehood.

    I'm assuming you need someone in the media to say it? They're a bit preoccupied today.

  • T Taco918

    @vaportrail said:

    Again, if this was a real rumor, there would be someone talking about it. I haven't heard a peep about this out of anyone noteworthy since this thread was started.

    There is no such thing as a real rumor. The only thing that is real is either a fact or a falsehood.

    I'm assuming you need someone in the media to say it? They're a bit preoccupied today.

    @taco918 said:

    There is no such thing as a real rumor. The only thing that is real is either a fact or a falsehood.

    I'm assuming you need someone in the media to say it? They're a bit preoccupied today.

    Are you unfamiliar with twitter? Lower tier info can still be reported.

    miktoxicM 1 Reply

  • I don't do it because out history of trading down isn't that great. Take the marquis player at 4, I would possibly trade down a couple of spots as long as there were some guys there I was high on. Else take the top tier player.

  • VaporTrailV VaporTrail

    @taco918 said:

    There is no such thing as a real rumor. The only thing that is real is either a fact or a falsehood.

    I'm assuming you need someone in the media to say it? They're a bit preoccupied today.

    Are you unfamiliar with twitter? Lower tier info can still be reported.

    @vaportrail said:

    Are you unfamiliar with twitter? Lower tier info can still be reported.

    lol.

    well is it a rumor that jerry jones has said he wants to draft manziel? no.

    if he's afraid someone is going to take him (like us or oakland or minnesota etc. etc.) then he'll have to trade up with someone correct?

    i'm sure it's a rumor that someone has come up with this particular trade specifically and put it out on twatter or wherever else journalists now get their info (bwahaha!!) but it's not a rumor that jones is like a spoiled little child and usually gets what he wants...the greatest show in texas.

  • I started this post as a rumor and a rumor only. I heard it through Twitter and just mentioned as a conversation piece. I don't believe much if anything posted on the draft in the last month has been anything but rumors and speculation. Take it for what it is!

  • Not all rumors are created equal. A tweet from a no-name wahoo or Mary Kay Cabot usually gets handled a bit differently than if it were to come from, say, Adam Caplan or Ian Rapoport.

  • It was a big enough rumor to get coverage on NFL a.m. today. Cowboys brass did not help the rumor any by not denying it when asked. So, valid rumor or not (there's a quantifiable test for this?), it's out there. And as for here, I'm just enjoying the fact that this thread ate up one of the 10 days until the draft (9 days and 27 min now).

  • B Bummie

    It was a big enough rumor to get coverage on NFL a.m. today. Cowboys brass did not help the rumor any by not denying it when asked. So, valid rumor or not (there's a quantifiable test for this?), it's out there. And as for here, I'm just enjoying the fact that this thread ate up one of the 10 days until the draft (9 days and 27 min now).

    @bummie said:

    It was a big enough rumor to get coverage on NFL a.m. today. Cowboys brass did not help the rumor any by not denying it when asked. So, valid rumor or not (there's a quantifiable test for this?), it's out there. And as for here, I'm just enjoying the fact that this thread ate up one of the 10 days until the draft (9 days and 27 min now).

    Saying that the cowboys are rumored to trade up for manziel is different than suggesting that they're rumored to offer the browns 16, 46 and 2015 1 for the 4th pick.

  • VaporTrailV VaporTrail

    @bummie said:

    It was a big enough rumor to get coverage on NFL a.m. today. Cowboys brass did not help the rumor any by not denying it when asked. So, valid rumor or not (there's a quantifiable test for this?), it's out there. And as for here, I'm just enjoying the fact that this thread ate up one of the 10 days until the draft (9 days and 27 min now).

    Saying that the cowboys are rumored to trade up for manziel is different than suggesting that they're rumored to offer the browns 16, 46 and 2015 1 for the 4th pick.

    @vaportrail said:

    Saying that the cowboys are rumored to trade up for manziel is different than suggesting that they're rumored to offer the browns 16, 46 and 2015 1 for the 4th pick.

    No doubt there. I should have specified, that was where the idea of a (any) trade possibility gained traction. From there, speculation, wishful thinking and boredom likely led to that trade possibility with the Browns.

  • Hell yeah I would do it in a heartbeat.

    #16- Derek Carr

    #26- Xavier Su'a-Filo

    #36- Davante Adams

    #46- Stanley Jean-Baptiste

    The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain-

  • never miss a chance to do another mock featuring derek carr, huh Po?

  • If we made that trade, I would dance like a little girl watching Frozen at a slumber party.

  • Hell no... trading down and taking a QB this year makes absolutely no freaking sense. The only reason to trade down and pick up ammunition for next year would be to trade up to pick up a bonafide top 5 QB.

    This years draft is too good and 4-12 teams pick top 5 for a reason, we need a game changing,superstar,HoF type talent.

    "All Truth Passes Through Three stages. First, It Is Ridiculed, Second It Is Violently Opposed, And Third, It Is Accepted As Self-Evident" ~Arthur Schopenhauer
    miktoxicM 1 Reply

  • Is that serious?! Definitely take it? Who do they think is worth that?! They wont get JC at 4.......?

    runyon27R 1 Reply
  • BadNewsBrownsB BadNewsBrowns

    Hell no... trading down and taking a QB this year makes absolutely no freaking sense. The only reason to trade down and pick up ammunition for next year would be to trade up to pick up a bonafide top 5 QB.

    This years draft is too good and 4-12 teams pick top 5 for a reason, we need a game changing,superstar,HoF type talent.

    @badnewsbrowns said:

    Hell no... trading down and taking a QB this year makes absolutely no freaking sense. The only reason to trade down and pick up ammunition for next year would be to trade up to pick up a bonafide top 5 QB.

    This years draft is too good and 4-12 teams pick top 5 for a reason, we need a game changing,superstar,HoF type talent.

    who is that in your opinion? not busting ballsl, just asking.

    BadNewsBrownsB 1 Reply

  • If Dallas goes after a QB at any point in the next year it will be Petty in 2015.

    "A winner never whines." Paul Brown
  • SCDawg82S SCDawg82

    Is that serious?! Definitely take it? Who do they think is worth that?! They wont get JC at 4.......?

    @scdawg82 said:

    Is that serious?! Definitely take it? Who do they think is worth that?! They wont get JC at 4.......?

    When was the last time we came out ahead on trading back in the long run.......Take the top talent player instead. I need more than that to drop 12 spots.

    SCDawg82S 1 Reply
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