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Why we won't be forgetting Steve Marshall

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    Soon after being hired, Coach Mangini started looking for an experience offensive line coach to pair with his young OC. His two main targets, it seems, were Bill Callahan and Tom Cable.

    Callahan, who was on Mangini's staff in New York, ended up sticking with the Jets. And now it looks like Tom Cable will be named HC of the Raiders.

    In addition to that, there are now reports that Mangini's had trouble hiring assistant coaches because he was a reputation for being dickish towards underlings. If that's the case, the chances of us hiring an experienced, well-respected OL coach seem to be pretty low.

    Which leaves us with Steve Marshall, the holdover from Crennel/Savage's staff whose last stop was as coach of the Texans' notoriously inept o-line. Perhaps injuries are more to blame for our o-line's decline last year, but it would have been nice to bring in a guy who's had consistent success in the league, not just one year when he had a #1 pick, a big FA signing, and virtually no injuries (other than Seth McKinney) to deal with.

    I've mentioned before that Josh McDaniels was very smart to retain Broncos' OL coach Rick Dennison. I was hoping Mangini would be able to make a similarly smart move by bringing in a good OL coach; unfortunately, it seems that other teams' hirings and his poor reputation around the league may prevent him from doing that.

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    Aloysius said:

    Soon after being hired, Coach Mangini started looking for an experience offensive line coach to pair with his young OC. His two main targets, it seems, were Bill Callahan and Tom Cable.

    Callahan, who was on Mangini's staff in New York, ended up sticking with the Jets. And now it looks like Tom Cable will be named HC of the Raiders.

    In addition to that, there are now reports that Mangini's had trouble hiring assistant coaches because he was a reputation for being dickish towards underlings. If that's the case, the chances of us hiring an experienced, well-respected OL coach seem to be pretty low.

    Which leaves us with Steve Marshall, the holdover from Crennel/Savage's staff whose last stop was as coach of the Texans' notoriously inept o-line. Perhaps injuries are more to blame for our o-line's decline last year, but it would have been nice to bring in a guy who's had consistent success in the league, not just one year when he had a #1 pick, a big FA signing, and virtually no injuries (other than Seth McKinney) to deal with.

    I've mentioned before that Josh McDaniels was very smart to retain Broncos' OL coach Rick Dennison. I was hoping Mangini would be able to make a similarly smart move by bringing in a good OL coach; unfortunately, it seems that other teams' hirings and his poor reputation around the league may prevent him from doing that.

    and where are you getting thae information about him being dickish towards his underlings. and except for rumors that you have heard or read who said Cable or Callahan were his #1 and #2. Do you know anybody he has interviewed for his OL coaches job that has turned him down. Cable and Callahan are both under contract and are being retained by their respective teams.

    Man, give the guy a break. This making up shit just to create a story is crap. You have no idea what his plans are for a OL coach. Let him put his staff together and then bitch.

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      ? Aloysius wrote on last edited by
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      Dude, you need to stop posting angry. It doesn't suit you.

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        Dude, you need to stop posting angry. It doesn't suit you.

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        Y YtownBrownsBacker wrote on last edited by
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        Aloysius said:

        Dude, you need to stop posting angry. It doesn't suit you.

        and posting that a guy is dickish towards his underlings as the reason he can't find good assistants is what?

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          ? Aloysius wrote on last edited by
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          Um, relaying what I'd read elsewhere.

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            H heckofajobbrownie wrote on last edited by
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            Rumors about Mangini's churlishness aren't exactly tough to find, dude.

            He lost the locker room in New York for a reason.

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              I found this bio on the Dallas site.

              What is the secret to posting links on this board??

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              @ballpeen said:

              I found this bio on the Dallas site.

              Fixed it for ya.

              From what I can tell, this is Warhop's resume:

              • 1998-2002 Cardinals OL Coach (under Vince Tobin & Dave McGinnis)
              • 2003-2004 Cowboys OL Coach (under Bill Parcells)
              • 2005-2008 49ers OL Coach (under Mike Nolan)
              I'd be interested to know why Parcells let him leave after just two years.

              EDIT: Okay, Parcells fired him:

              For the first time, coach Bill Parcells addressed publicly the reason offensive line coach George Warhop was fired after last season - without actually naming him. Warhop has joined the San Francisco 49ers' staff.

              Parcells: "I thought we had too much inconsistency in the group. I didn't particularly like the chemistry on the offensive coaching staff. I thought there were too many excuses, too many mental errors and not enough accountability, and just about anything else you want to add to that. It's a business thing, and sometimes you have to make hard decisions. We couldn't stay the same."

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                For the first time, coach Bill Parcells addressed publicly the reason offensive line coach George Warhop was fired after last season - without actually naming him. Warhop has joined the San Francisco 49ers' staff.

                Parcells: "I thought we had too much inconsistency in the group. I didn't particularly like the chemistry on the offensive coaching staff. I thought there were too many excuses, too many mental errors and not enough accountability, and just about anything else you want to add to that. It's a business thing, and sometimes you have to make hard decisions. We couldn't stay the same."

                And we want to hire this guy?...good grief!

                Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~
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                  ? Aloysius wrote on last edited by
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                  Warhop was nearly fired by Nolan after his unit surrendered 55 sacks in '07. According to this report, Nolan fired him, then re-hired him, then brought in another OL coach to work alongside him.

                  That second OL coach, Chris Foerster, ended up staying with the team after Warhop was fired.

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                    I do remember that when Singletary became interim HC, the first thing he did was harp on the OL. He wanted them tougher and rode their butts all week. Then during the game the 49ers were on their goal, first down and he ran the ball 4 times, they didn't score, but he wanted to get across that if the players want to be on the OL, they better improve. From what I saw, they did.

                    Not sure who fired Warhop, but Singletary knew it was an issue.

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                      ? Aloysius wrote on last edited by
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                      According to Pat McManamon, Warhop's the new OL coach.

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