Trade Hypotheticals and Rumors
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Aren't we tired of bargain basement QB'S?! Brady Quinn, Brandon Weeden, Delhomme, Hoyer, Campbell. Glennon is more of the same.....
Would you prefer taking a qb @ #4 instead, and he busts big time? Three of those guys were drafted in the first round, that's hardly "bargain basement". I'd be willing to bet the odds of hitting on a stud qb picks 16-32 aren't much worse than picking 1-15.
The Browns have been monumentally unlucky with their qb picks.
Would you prefer taking a qb @ #4 instead, and he busts big time? Three of those guys were drafted in the first round, that's hardly "bargain basement". I'd be willing to bet the odds of hitting on a stud qb picks 16-32 aren't much worse than picking 1-15.
The Browns have been monumentally unlucky with their qb picks.
It sounds crazy i know. And im not being a jerk (I'm not that guy to come on a message board and talk S#&%.) I really would rather see that. Actually, I really want to see them take Watkins at 4, and then move back up to take Manziel at like 10 or 11.
I'm not sure whether they have been "Unlucky" or not. Tim Couch, no one saw that bust coming. But McCoy, Quinn, and Weeden. Those were bad moves in my opinion.
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Here's what makes me nervous.what if Hoyer just isn't ready? What if he comes into camp and has a major set back?
Say we draft Carr @ 26(Easy PO...this is hypothetical) and he looks just like what he is... A rookie that's never run a pro style offense!!He'll be
ok after he has sat back and obsereved 5,10,15 games and speed of the game slows down for him but he's just not game 1 ready.
Hoyer's gonna be 80% at best at the start of camp...He tore his ACL in Oct of last year...It takes a year to recover physically,most people take 2 yrs
before they psychologically feel the knee is ready...Beside the fact he is a career backup.
I'm not a huge fan of Glennon, or Cousins,and I'm not into giving up first or second round picks for the likes of Mallet or Sanchez.
But I believe this front office needs to prepare for worst case...This is the Browns after all and I'm sick of us troting rookies out there that look
like...Well rookies!
Whom ever we draft at QB needs a full commitment from managment for them to succeed, be it Manziel,Bortels,Garropolo, etc.
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Aren't we tired of bargain basement QB'S?! Brady Quinn, Brandon Weeden, Delhomme, Hoyer, Campbell. Glennon is more of the same.....
Aren't we tired of bargain basement QB'S?! Brady Quinn, Brandon Weeden, Delhomme, Hoyer, Campbell. Glennon is more of the same.....
But no one knew at the time these guys were bargain basement. Weeden and Quinn were drafted at similar positions as Aaron Rodgers and Joe Flacco.
So, it is all a crapshoot.
Even with #1 overall you can get a John Elway/Payton Manning or a Jamarcus Russell/David Carr
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Seems there is a rumor out there that the Browns looking to trade their 2nd round pick(plus other picks I would assume) to move back into the first round, giving them 3 first rounders, 1 of which would undoubtedly by a QB who has fallen. So what are peoples thoughts on this possibility? What would you be willing to pay to make that move and which QB would you target?
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I would assume the move would only cost us a pick or two beyond the 3rd. If the QBs fall this could be an interesting move. As much as I want a CB and ILB with high picks, I could see the potential of landing Watkins - Sua Filo - Bortles/Carr in the first. I wouldn't be disappointed with that.
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Would you prefer taking a qb @ #4 instead, and he busts big time? Three of those guys were drafted in the first round, that's hardly "bargain basement". I'd be willing to bet the odds of hitting on a stud qb picks 16-32 aren't much worse than picking 1-15.
The Browns have been monumentally unlucky with their qb picks.
It sounds crazy i know. And im not being a jerk (I'm not that guy to come on a message board and talk S#&%.) I really would rather see that. Actually, I really want to see them take Watkins at 4, and then move back up to take Manziel at like 10 or 11.
I'm not sure whether they have been "Unlucky" or not. Tim Couch, no one saw that bust coming. But McCoy, Quinn, and Weeden. Those were bad moves in my opinion.
It sounds crazy i know. And im not being a jerk (I'm not that guy to come on a message board and talk S#&%.) I really would rather see that. Actually, I really want to see them take Watkins at 4, and then move back up to take Manziel at like 10 or 11.
I'm not sure whether they have been "Unlucky" or not. Tim Couch, no one saw that bust coming. But McCoy, Quinn, and Weeden. Those were bad moves in my opinion.
Regarding McCoy- mobile, put up huge numbers at a major program, Heisman finalist- sound familiar to someone who's hyped up to the moon currently?
But no one knew at the time these guys were bargain basement. Weeden and Quinn were drafted at similar positions as Aaron Rodgers and Joe Flacco.
So, it is all a crapshoot.
Even with #1 overall you can get a John Elway/Payton Manning or a Jamarcus Russell/David Carr
Exactly Gip. History says at least one, probably two of "this year's models" are going to bust, and bust big time.
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I am not a fan of this trade but it seems to be a real possibility.
Cleveland trades 26 to Washington for the 34 and Kirk Cousins.
We get a QB that our OC is rumored to really like, he knows our offense, and we aren't technically giving up a pick.
Washington is rumored to want to move up into the first round , but doesn't have any ammo to do it without hurting themselves down the road.
If this has been discussed already I apologize, I skimmed through the thread and didn't see it.
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I am not a fan of this trade but it seems to be a real possibility.
Cleveland trades 26 to Washington for the 34 and Kirk Cousins.
We get a QB that our OC is rumored to really like, he knows our offense, and we aren't technically giving up a pick.
Washington is rumored to want to move up into the first round , but doesn't have any ammo to do it without hurting themselves down the road.
If this has been discussed already I apologize, I skimmed through the thread and didn't see it.
I am not a fan of this trade but it seems to be a real possibility.
Cleveland trades 26 to Washington for the 34 and Kirk Cousins.
We get a QB that our OC is rumored to really like, he knows our offense, and we aren't technically giving up a pick.
Washington is rumored to want to move up into the first round , but doesn't have any ammo to do it without hurting themselves down the road.
If this has been discussed already I apologize, I skimmed through the thread and didn't see it.
Can't see them giving up Cousins for a lousy 8 spots.
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By the value chart those 8 spots are worth a high 3rd rounder. It's also a sellers markets. They want in the first round without giving up a 1st next year they kind of have to go through us. Again I don't want to see that happen, but I can see the logic
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On Tuesday, news surfaced that the Cleveland Browns will not be selecting Texas A&M quarterback Johnny Manziel with the No. 4 overall pick in the 2014 NFL Draft. Without Manziel as an option, there are some doubts about whether or not the Browns will be selecting a quarterback with their pick, but that doesn’t mean quarterback in the first round won’t be an option.
The latest pre-draft rumor on ESPN Insider says that Kyle Shanahan and the Browns are interested in trading their No. 26 overall pick to the Washington Redskins in exchange for Kirk Cousins.
If Cleveland goes with a player like Sammy Watkins or Mike Evans at No. 4 overall and passes on a quarterback, trading their second first-rounder is a move that would end up making a ton of sense for both sides.
At No. 26, the Browns would have to consider if Cousins is a higher rated quarterback than whoever would be available. If he is, then trading away the pick would be a no-brainer. For Washington, getting into the first-round of this year’s draft would be an ideal scenario.
Whether or not a trade actually goes down on draft day remains to be seen, but it will be something worth watching over the next 24 hours.
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This would be the only scenario that I truly couldn't get behind. If he wants Cousins fine but don't waste a first round pick on him. A single 3rd or 4th rounder is the most I would give up. Cousin's hasn't proved in college or the pro's that he's worthy of a first round pick.
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They aren't. People blowing smoke out of their ass. Every year QB X who has connections to Coach/FO Person Y is always going to be traded to the Browns for some high draft pick. The only one that was remotely true was Lombardis interest in trading for Hoyer, but even that dumb ass waited until he got cut to pick him up off the street.
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This is stupid.
Yesterday on ESPN McShay said he didn't think a QB was going top 4 and that the Browns would likely trade up to 18 or 19 to get their QB. Herm Edwards then said what about trading te 26 for Kirk Cousins.
One day later ESPNs rumor link has something about it.
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Best job in the world. Draft reporters. No credibility needed. You can make up your own story and run with it. It's great!
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Baloney.
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