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  • or...

    Damn, Fat-Turd... why did you wait until now to start thinking?

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196

  • ClevelandCleveland Browns should take Texas A&M's Johnny Manziel in 2014 NFL Draft -- Bill Livingston

    Texas A&M quarterback Johnny Manziel (2) rushes for a touchdown against Florida. Bill Livingston says the Browns should draft Manziel with their first pick in the NFL Draft. (AP)
    By Bill Livingston, The Plain Dealer
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    on May 07, 2014 at 6:00 AM, updated May 07, 2014 at 6:30 AM
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    CLEVELAND, Ohio -- With the first pick in the 2014 NFL Draft, the Cleveland Browns should take Texas A&M quarterback Johnny Manziel.
    But will they?
    As reader Steve Urcheck wrote on my Facebook page: "It's so CLE to put all your trust into Brian Hoyer. He's a great story. CLE kid kind of an underdog. But facts are facts. If you have been cut several times and been a back up for this long, there are reasons. He's not going to turn Into Kurt Warner or Roy Hobbs. We need a superstar that makes this Franchise relevant again. All professional teams regardless of sport win with stars that make plays and perform in crunch time. RT, Receivers and LB help, but are not game changers. Bill Livingston I AM READY FOR SOME JOHNNY FOOTBALL!!!!!!!!!!""
    I've argued much the same recently.
    Also not so recently.
    But Manziel is a high-risk, high-reward proposition. Some of those who speak Scout Talk and clutter the airwaves with biomechanical mumbo-jumbo might have been won over by Manziel's excellent Pro Day in College Station, Texas, although others will always consider genius to be suspicious.
    Mike Holmgren, who disciplined Brett Favre enough to win a Super Bowl with the ol' gunslinger in Green Bay, calls Manziel "too free-lancey." I'd say Holmgren was too free-loady as the Browns' supremo. None of his quarterback choices panned out here.
    If Manziel isn't there at No. 4, Clemson wide receiver Sammy Watkins is the lowest-risk pick of any skill-position player. My only reservations about Watkins, who burned Ohio State repeatedly in the Orange Bowl, is that the Buckeyes' defense was a match waiting to be struck. On pass defense, Ohio State was not very good, folks.
    The reason I think the Browns might take Manziel is actually the impetuous owner I've often criticized, Hotspur Haslam himself. When it comes to meddlesome owners – think the human moving van, Art Modell – I'm usually against them. But the Browns have been too conservative (and/or clueless) by half in their past picks since the franchise was restored.
    They have passed on offense for defense fairly recently (Phil Taylor instead of Julio Jones) and utterly calamitously (Gerard Warren instead of Ladainian Tomlinson.) They overdrafted an under-performer, Trent Richardson, at a position (running back) that is not obsolete, but is complementary in nature in today's game.
    Haslam's executives were aggressive in free agency, and there is no doubt the owner wants to make a big statement in the NFL Draft to counter the bad reviews he's gotten for dumping Bernie Kosar from the exhibition-game television team.
    Haslam has a flair for the big move, the outsized gesture. He tried to trade for San Francisco coach Jim Harbaugh. He's not going to be the type who wants to play it safe.
    The Browns have some serious pieces to the contention puzzle, chief among them wideout Josh Gordon. He is coming off the best receiving season in franchise history, despite serving a two-game suspension at its start and not having an elite quarterback to throw to him.
    Manziel made plays I saw no one else in college football make.
    Put him and Gordon together and let the fans dream.
    "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.

  • "Manziel made plays I saw no one else in college football make."

    Pure BS.

    Show me a play he make and i'll find a highlight of someone that can do BETTER.

  • livingston is the second biggest windbag in cleveland right behind that crooked face bidatch MKC.

    someone stick a pin in him already.

    hoortaH 1 Reply

  • I usually don't do it, but since this is Draft Day I decided to listen to the radio here at the office.

    But what is pissing me off is the fact that these idiots cannot talk about anyone else except Johnny Manziel.

    Now, I am not necessarily opposed to taking Johnny Manziel.....but why does he have to be THE exclusive topic of conversation?

    There is a 99% chance that the Browns will NOT take this guy. So why do they have to spend 99% of their time talking about a guy that won't be here.

    Please, for fuck's sake....close all Johnny Manziel topics on this board unless that 1% chance of the Browns taking him come to fruition.

    MasterDogM 1 Reply

  • I can't believe I read the whole thing...

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196

  • Amen Gip it's a fucking Johnny football love fest.

  • Its not a radio show your listening to. Its the 4 hour NAMBLA radio ad hosted by Rizzo and Goldhammer. Quit listening to them a week ago.

  • "Polarizing Lightening-rod"

    Near-Perfect for talk radio...

    Only thing that could increase the conversation intensity would be if his name was Johnny Benghazi...

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196

  • people either love him or dislike him a lot.

    OsirisO 1 Reply

  • You've come this far Gipper, its almost over.....or just beginning ; )

  • miktoxicM miktoxic

    livingston is the second biggest windbag in cleveland right behind that crooked face bidatch MKC.

    someone stick a pin in him already.

    @miktoxic said:

    livingston is the second biggest windbag in cleveland right behind that crooked face bidatch MKC.

    someone stick a pin in him already.

    ^+1. Praise the Lord, this will all be over in 10 hours. I'm going to try to get out of work early, and sit down in the man-cave with a few cold ones @ 8PM.

    Tim Couch Pulls OutT 1 Reply

  • I don't know who Vontae Mack is and I swear to God if you ruined Draft Day for me, I will never take your opinion seriously ever again POG.

    Oh, wait... I already don't.

    I'm awesome, and I fuck dolphins. Ghoolie 12/2/2012: I have absolutely no skills, training or pride
    hoortaH The GipperT 2 Replies
  • hoortaH hoorta

    @miktoxic said:

    livingston is the second biggest windbag in cleveland right behind that crooked face bidatch MKC.

    someone stick a pin in him already.

    ^+1. Praise the Lord, this will all be over in 10 hours. I'm going to try to get out of work early, and sit down in the man-cave with a few cold ones @ 8PM.

    @hoorta said:

    ^+1. Praise the Lord, this will all be over in 10 hours. I'm going to try to get out of work early, and sit down in the man-cave with a few cold ones @ 8PM.

    I've already packed it in for the day, I've forwarded my emails and I'm coasting until 6. For some reason, this is the most excited I've been for a draft since coming back to the league.

    I'm awesome, and I fuck dolphins. Ghoolie 12/2/2012: I have absolutely no skills, training or pride
  • Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out

    I don't know who Vontae Mack is and I swear to God if you ruined Draft Day for me, I will never take your opinion seriously ever again POG.

    Oh, wait... I already don't.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    I don't know who Vontae Mack is and I swear to God if you ruined Draft Day for me, I will never take your opinion seriously ever again POG.

    Oh, wait... I already don't.

    It's worth seeing TC, some of the trades would never happen in real life. Not great, but worth a look. I think I've seen that gas station Costner stops at near our Tailgate spot if I'm not mistaken. 🙂

  • hoortaH hoorta

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    I don't know who Vontae Mack is and I swear to God if you ruined Draft Day for me, I will never take your opinion seriously ever again POG.

    Oh, wait... I already don't.

    It's worth seeing TC, some of the trades would never happen in real life. Not great, but worth a look. I think I've seen that gas station Costner stops at near our Tailgate spot if I'm not mistaken. 🙂

    @hoorta said:

    It's worth seeing TC, some of the trades would never happen in real life. Not great, but worth a look. I think I've seen that gas station Costner stops at near our Tailgate spot if I'm not mistaken. 🙂

    I have it downloaded, I was waiting until today to watch it. I thought it to be fitting.

    I'm awesome, and I fuck dolphins. Ghoolie 12/2/2012: I have absolutely no skills, training or pride
  • Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out

    I don't know who Vontae Mack is and I swear to God if you ruined Draft Day for me, I will never take your opinion seriously ever again POG.

    Oh, wait... I already don't.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    I don't know who Vontae Mack is and I swear to God if you ruined Draft Day for me, I will never take your opinion seriously ever again POG.

    Oh, wait... I already don't.

    Vontae Mack was the fictional player the Browns chose with the #1 overall pick in the movie Draft Day. It is odd because he was a LB with very much the same attributes as the real Khalil Mack (except the fictional guy played for Ohio St.)

    Tim Couch Pulls OutT sisky fringoS 2 Replies
  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    I don't know who Vontae Mack is and I swear to God if you ruined Draft Day for me, I will never take your opinion seriously ever again POG.

    Oh, wait... I already don't.

    Vontae Mack was the fictional player the Browns chose with the #1 overall pick in the movie Draft Day. It is odd because he was a LB with very much the same attributes as the real Khalil Mack (except the fictional guy played for Ohio St.)

    @the-gipper said:

    Vontae Mack was the fictional player the Browns chose with the #1 overall pick in the movie Draft Day. It is odd because he was a LB with very much the same attributes as the real Khalil Mack (except the fictional guy played for Ohio St.)

    GOD DAMN IT GIPPER I HAVENT WATCHED IT YET

    I'm awesome, and I fuck dolphins. Ghoolie 12/2/2012: I have absolutely no skills, training or pride
    The GipperT 1 Reply

  • Me neither...

    Can a brother get a "Spoiler Alert"?

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
  • The GipperT The Gipper

    I usually don't do it, but since this is Draft Day I decided to listen to the radio here at the office.

    But what is pissing me off is the fact that these idiots cannot talk about anyone else except Johnny Manziel.

    Now, I am not necessarily opposed to taking Johnny Manziel.....but why does he have to be THE exclusive topic of conversation?

    There is a 99% chance that the Browns will NOT take this guy. So why do they have to spend 99% of their time talking about a guy that won't be here.

    Please, for fuck's sake....close all Johnny Manziel topics on this board unless that 1% chance of the Browns taking him come to fruition.

    @the-gipper said:

    I usually don't do it, but since this is Draft Day I decided to listen to the radio here at the office.

    But what is pissing me off is the fact that these idiots cannot talk about anyone else except Johnny Manziel.

    Now, I am not necessarily opposed to taking Johnny Manziel.....but why does he have to be THE exclusive topic of conversation?

    There is a 99% chance that the Browns will NOT take this guy. So why do they have to spend 99% of their time talking about a guy that won't be here.

    Please, for fuck's sake....close all Johnny Manziel topics on this board unless that 1% chance of the Browns taking him come to fruition.

    Maybe not in style of play, but the groupies and media circus is Tebow 2.0.

    It will take away from the rest of the team. If they win, it's Manziel. If they lose it's Manziel. If you poop, it's Manziel.

    Manziel this manziel that...manziel 99% of the time.

    hoortaH 1 Reply
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