Jonathan Paul Manziel

[DieHardBrownsFan]

We will get quite a few A&M fans here I imagine. I'm cool with that. Now that the hype is over, sign a contract quick and don't pull a Brady Queen and sit out training camp. Start out hard charging and learn.

[Westside Steve]

@jcam222 said:

. Why don't you just FUCK OFF! Post on your own teams board you Cock swallowing coward. Trolls like you make me sick. Little lurker bitch hiding behind your screen name online. You're a cunt!

Come on cam, don't sugar coat it...

WSS

[sisky fringo]

doubt there's anyone who hasn't seen this but just in case...

natural football player...the antithesis of Brandon Weedon

[tml1138]

@tour2ma said:

lol...

As for the 22nd pick thing... It's just a number. Farmer wanted him and believed he had to move in front of KC at 23 to bag him. Not worth a higher pick to move to 21 just to avoid a number.

Yeah I'm sure they had a little laugh about the coincidence, but that's all. I found it amusing but I'm not going to let superstition get the best of me. I know that's hard for many a sports fan.

[miktoxic]

and the world stops spinning........

at least i'm still buzzed.

[tml1138]

I was shocked when they moved up to take JF. I just never thought it was going to happen, especially after they traded #4 away and picked Gilbert at #8. I thought the trade down to get Bills 2015 #1 and #4 was a move to position themselves for a QB next year, with Bortles gone and thinking JF and Bridgewater would be gone by #26.

I'm a JFF fan now, and can't help but be excited to see what unfolds. Hoyer is still in my sights as well and haven't given up on him yet.

[DieHardBrownsFan]

Found an old clip of Tour when he still lived in Cleveland.

[tml1138]

@miktoxic said:

and the world stops spinning........

at least i'm still buzzed.

You for one I recalled as favoring a CB among your top picks. You must be happy about how it all went down yesterday. TCPO summed it up great. Top CB, #1 and #4 pick next year, JF @ a much less risky #22....I'm certainly pleased right now!

[Harry Buffalo]

I am just as surprised as anyone that this was the pick. For the past week I had been thinking that JF wasn't even on their board anymore. I still think that if they had missed him in the middle rounds you would have seen us take Bridgewater at #26. But even though Manziel is the ultimate boom or bust player, I like the pick at #22. I like it so much better considering he thought he was going top 10. He is going to come into the building with a chip on his shoulder. He is going to check any attitude at the door and bust his ass to learn the QB position in the NFL. And all that hard work is just going to push Hoyer even more, who has already been working at a super human level. WE got Vince Young to teach him how to not behave in the NFL. Perfect situation for our team.

[miktoxic]

just realized that farmer and manziel have the same suits on with the same browns lapel pin on.

is that a pledge pin?

[tml1138]

Harry B, I agree. I'm hoping the fall for JF was a bit of an eye opener as well as giving him a chip.

Stop the showoff antics and prove it on the field. (Ok maybe show off after you've established yourself as an NFL-worthy QB. )

[Sheepdog]

Just heard on NFL Network that by selecting JFF at #22 rather than at #4 we saved about $12mil in cap space over 4 years. I think the FO has played this draft really well, finally got our compliment to Haden and hopefully our franchise QB plus Buffalo's 1st rounder next year and all we lost was a 3rd and 5th round picks.

[DieHardBrownsFan]

@harry-buffalo said:

I am just as surprised as anyone that this was the pick. For the past week I had been thinking that JF wasn't even on their board anymore. I still think that if they had missed him in the middle rounds you would have seen us take Bridgewater at #26. But even though Manziel is the ultimate boom or bust player, I like the pick at #22. I like it so much better considering he thought he was going top 10. He is going to come into the building with a chip on his shoulder. He is going to check any attitude at the door and bust his ass to learn the QB position in the NFL. And all that hard work is just going to push Hoyer even more, who has already been working at a super human level. WE got Vince Young to teach him how to not behave in the NFL. Perfect situation for our team.

Manziel will start this year eventually. I'd bet on it.

[4 Rings]

@tour2ma said:

That is the big issue... staying healthy. To do so he has to reign in some of that fierce competitiveness, which ran him into some troubling dings his Sophomore season. Which raises the issue of how much can he reign in that which is at his core? (or Corps, if you're an Ag like my daughter.)

Two more points...

- Dayton has a lot of Bengal fans so be sure the jersey is the right color.

- Hopefully JM will never see the field on opening day.

Welcome to the board...

He has a trick knee he injured in HS which flares ocassionally. Last year his knee got injured but he came back in the game. Also last year he injured his thumb on his passing hand by hitting the helmet on his follow through. And his shoulder was injured when he was tackled from behind by a huge Auburn DL who then landed on top of him. Johnny came back in the game but had trouble passing. The hand and shoulder bothered him through the end of the season. He was finally healthy for the Capital One Bowl and played lights out.

Johnny took a few hard hits after releasing the ball after passing but always got back up. But I never saw him take a hard hit running in space. It's the hits he will take in or near the pocket that worry me. He does have a horrible tendancy to try to take on a DB and deliver a hit. He will need to stop that.

[Zombo]

@darren15 said:

Lets Predict where he ends up ....lets see if anyone is right

Cleveland Fucking Ohio.

Zombo

[miktoxic]

Zombo said:

Cleveland Fucking Ohio.

Zombo

the great and ever knowing zomboni everyone!!

(applause...then gun shots?)

[Kosar_For_President]

[Kosar_For_President]

Mike Pettine took Sal Pal to Johnny's in Cleveland before the draft. Hopefully Jonny Football doesn't turn out like the restaurant, because it sucks, overpriced and overratted.

[TypicalBrowns]

I think its pretty obvious Manziel will start week 1, they can say all they want about having them duke it out in camp, no way we sit Johnny Football on week 1. Hoyer will be back up and Vince Young will be third QB

[miktoxic]

let's wait until the people in higher places in the browns org looks at these guys before 'we' start predicting who, what, or when.

it does no one any good.

to all the true blue JF fans (he's a brown, i'm a fan)...what happens if he doesn't beat out hoyer? what if he does do you still start him?

just askin.