Jonathan Paul Manziel
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Seems like a great kid
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Idk what is more annoying
All the JF homers on here leading up to the draft
or all of our new "fans" that think Johnny is a saint and the best QB to ever play the game.
Idk what is more annoying
All the JF homers on here leading up to the draft
or all of our new "fans" that think Johnny is a saint and the best QB to ever play the game.
It's a toss up at this point...
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I'm simply pointing out the idiocy of your response to my thread. I was sharing information, content, for those who were interested. I believe I labeled and described in properly. Those who are interested can visit, those who aren't, don't have to. Unless there is some kind of thread title system I am unaware of I think this post was legit.
Wins and losses.. are all you care about. got it.
Other people might be interested though.
So i'll stop being defensive if you slow your narcissism.
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You're going to LOVE Johnny! I still can't believe how stupid Dallas is. The guy falls in your lap and they pass. Unbelievable! I'm done with the Cowboys and Texans. Go Browns! Loved all the videos of all the Browns fans celebrating the Manziel pick.
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Some items of interest:
Who came up with the nickname Johnny Football? No one is quite sure, not even Johnny. Johnny thought it originated on TexAgs message Board. Others said the stadium announcer at Kerrville Tivy HS. I think it was a TV sportcaster in San Antonio named Joe Reinagle.
Who is JFF: JFF is the internet nickname given to Johnny at the TexAgs board.
What does JFF mean? Johnny Fucking Football !!!
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Yea he's young enough so I like giving him another year in the 3+ CB packages. He had some bright spots and improved last year, hopefully he keeps improving.@mike-h said:
I can see Skrine playing in certain packages. Both Skrine and McFadden will see the field. I didnt see anything out of McFadden that makes me think he van usurp Skrine. And that's saying a lot because I have never liked Skrine.
Lauvao was one of the three guys on the roster I hated. He's gone. (People like Tour defended this guy too)
Josh Cooper should be next.
I'd love for Skrine to kick rocks, but not sure it'll be this year. He's undersized, undisciplined.. misses tackles.. not a good combo
And yea, barring training camp or preseason injury I expect Hoyer to start. And I hope he keeps the job because it means the browns are winning.
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TXDawg's love affair with Johnny Football blows mine with Denard out of the freaking water.
His ceiling is GOAT? Get the fuck out of here...
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
But the circus might be good for the local economy... so there's that...
What it will do if Hoyer keeps JM sitting for a full year is anybody's guess... but it should involve spending money.
Just heard the Browns President (Schreiner?) on the radio. In the last 15 hours they have sold 1500 season ticket packages.
That's all good, no?
Just heard the Browns President (Schr! I'einer?) on the radio. In the last 15 hours they have sold 1500 season ticket packages.
That's all good, no?
Hell no!, I put in for a seat relocation/upgrade. Why the fuck are they selling new seats before I get my upgrade or relocation?
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TXDawg's love affair with Johnny Football blows mine with Denard out of the freaking water.
His ceiling is GOAT? Get the fuck out of here...
PoG still puts ya both to shame. Whats he gonna do with all those magazine cut outs of Carr he had taped around his bed now?TXDawg's love affair with Johnny Football blows mine with Denard out of the freaking water.
His ceiling is GOAT? Get the fuck out of here...
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@walterwhite said:
Hoorta is so mad we got Johnny Football and I couldn't be happier. I love it.
I just hope we get a picture of JM rocking the Browns uni with a whole mess of "thugs, gangstas, and dopers."
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New here as well, I can tell you that the number of Brown's fans in Texas has exploded in the last 12 hours.
A few things on Johnny as someone that has watched him since HS, most of which people don't realize:
He is very smart. Johnny had the highest Wonderlic score of the prospect QB's and he was in A&M's highly ranked B School prior to his Heisman with a high GPA. This isn't some athlete that just gets it done on physical skills, he learns quickly and is a student of the game.
Every year Johnny has become less of a freewheeler. In HS his offense was basically "give the ball to Johnny and let him improvise" and he took a team with virtually nothing around him deep in the playoffs until they lost to the eventual state champs in a shootout. He started that way at A&M but after working with George Whitfield after his RS year he has become much stronger fundamentally and less of a runner every year.
He's barely 21 years old. He is not a finished product by any means.
He's a great team guy. All of his teammates love him and would take a bullet for him. He is in early and out late and is obsessed with football and winning. He ALWAYS credits his teammates and pumps them up. The media talks about him but Johnny doesn't, notice after he was picked last night he wanted to talk about his teammates that were picked before him and how happy he was for them.
He is probably the most confident person on the face of the planet. Many think he must be cocky but in reality he is just very comfortable in his own skin and very confident in his abilities. He does his thing and he isn't doing it to impress others, he just does what he wants. Still at the same time he is surprisingly humble and he understands that football is still a game. I've never seen anyone quite like him, he is truly one of a kind in terms of personality.
He has a deep affection for kids, especially sick or disabled kids. He wears a "Charley's Angels" bracelet for a kid with cancer that went to the draft with him (he is the one he was hugging in the maroon Aggie shirt as he walked off). He got to know Charley before he even had the starting job at A&M as well so it isn't a show.
Everyone watches the highlights of his crazy plays but he actually stays in the pocket and slices up offenses most of the time. He actually had the best pocket completion % of any FBS QB last year at over 70%. He just also can throw really well on the run and puts immense pressure on a defense because they can never know what he might do.
Johnny was a legit prospect at baseball as well. What is unusual though is he was a shortstop, not a pitcher like most QB's. That's part of the reason he can make so many off balance throws and can throw against his body so well, it's something he did in baseball all his life.
Despite being under 6' Johnny can do a 360 dunk with a basketball.
The 2 games that most detractors point to for Johnny are the LSU and Missouri games this year. What is less spoken about is Johnny had a fractured thumb he was trying to play through in those games and it greatly affected his accuracy. He broke it hitting a helmet in the Auburn game on a throw in the pocket btw, a freak injury. Trying to keep him off the field though is not easy, he is insanely competitive.
Johnny is more quick than fast and really elusive. He's got good speed but he isn't like RGIII. Johnny seems to have a 6th sense to pressure though and he will absolutely juke people silly. He has incredible balance and is much stronger than most realize. He's hard to hit and the main focus will be more on getting him to not go for the extra yard than anything else. Johnny also has an incredible sense of where his receivers are at all times and he will boggle your mind with how he seems to find a receiver on the other side of the field that he didn't even look that way until he threw the ball. The game just moves at a different speed for him.
The biggest negative on Johnny going to Cleveland imo is he tends to not do as well in bad weather as the LSU and Missouri games this year were also cold and rainy. That said, he also set what was at the time the SEC Total Offense record (which he later broke) in the rain against Arkansas as a Freshman. He will need to adjust some and the groundskeepers in Cleveland need to do all they can to keep the field in top shape.
The biggest negative on Johnny going to Cleveland imo is he tends to not do as well in bad weather as the LSU and Missouri games this year were also cold and rainy. That said, he also set what was at the time the SEC Total Offense record (which he later broke) in the rain against Arkansas as a Freshman. He will need to adjust some and the groundskeepers in Cleveland need to do all they can to keep the field in top shape.
Credit LSU for their defensive schemes against Johnny which Missouri copied. In Johnny's freshman year against LSU the Aggies were moving the ball and in the game but an interception off Evans hands and a fumble by Molena caused Johnny to start trying to force things. In Johnny's second season LSU used the same scheme which worked and copied by Missouri.
I think some blame needs to be placed on the offensive coaches for not anticiapating the schemes and making adjustments. Kliff Kingsbury was the OC in Johnny's freshman year and that LSU game was early and I think Kliff was reluctant to put in too much offense and maybe too inexperienced himself to make halftime adjustments. In the Florida loss, Florida rolled their corners up in the second half and Kingsbury refused to throw deep.
When Kingsbury left for Texas Tech, RB coach Clarence McKinney was promoted to OC and Jake Spavital hired from WVA as the QB coach. McKinney was not effective as an OC and replaced by Sumlin for the bowl game. All last year I think Johnny's development was impaired by the coaching of McKinney and the inexperience of Spavital, as well as a non-existent defense. McKinney did not call one zone read play last year for Johnny. Nor a pitch play.
So when the experts watch two games and make evaluations on Johnny they never mention the coaching.
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TXDawg's love affair with Johnny Football blows mine with Denard out of the freaking water.
His ceiling is GOAT? Get the fuck out of here...
TXDawg's love affair with Johnny Football blows mine with Denard out of the freaking water.
His ceiling is GOAT? Get the fuck out of here...
Well technically every draft pick's ceiling is GOAT but I get what you're saying.
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Well we'll see how this goes. I've been a cleveland fan my whole life. I'm not one to get too drummed up on hype.
Case and point:
This link is also worth checking out:
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I listened to a nice bit on NPR about the Browns and Manziel.
I doubt the Browns have ever been featured on NPR with a 2 minute segement. I love it. We are Johnny Football!
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I listened to a nice bit on NPR about the Browns and Manziel.
I doubt the Browns have ever been featured on NPR with a 2 minute segement. I love it. We are Johnny Football!
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Nice .... way to sodomize this forum you fucking toothless bastard,
Eat shit you arrogant prick. Shame on me for defending my team against an asshole. According to my dentist teeth are good, according to my hot wife, big house, nice toys and fat check I am not the hillbilly you insinuate I am.
Eat shit you arrogant prick. Shame on me for defending my team against an asshole. According to my dentist teeth are good, according to my hot wife, big house, nice toys and fat check I am not the hillbilly you insinuate I am.
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