Gordon is out for year. damnit.

[Harry Buffalo]

@badnewsbrowns said:

Gordon isn't a complete idiot... wondering if he is just disregarding the testing altogether as some kind of personal protest? Although that'd be pretty fuckin dumb in it's own right...

I also wonder if his contract runs concurrent with the ban.. remember it's not a suspension he's kicked out of the league.

Or if he's reinstated in 2015 does his contract pick back up in 15 for his 14 salary?

I believe his contract is void for the year and he would get picked back up for his final year of the contract, I do not believe there would be a 1 year gap giving him two years left on the contract.

[sisky fringo]

@slowburn said:

Don't know anything about the logistics or timing of the piss test but why he wasn't prepared to pass strikes me as being irresponsible. You've always got to have a plan when the man comes knocking on your door. I'd guess he was never a Boy Scout

if he gets the boot and has to reapply, can he re-enter the league free of prior contracts and be like a free agent?

maybe his plan is to not be a Brown anymore. and he found a way to get out in a year. he's no stranger to sitting out a year...and he can get stoned with Ricky Williams the whole time. pretty sweet loophole if true.

or, he's in on the smoke screen and agreed to guage fan reaction to us thinking he fucked us. i am hopeful this second theory is true, but it's more likely to be doubtful.

as far as impact...just like when Peyton Manning went down for the Colts, NFL teams need to always have a plan B to keep rolling along when elite talent is removed from their plans. wanna place blame put some with the front office as well for counting on someone who let the entire organization down. i would have trusted him too just saying.

since they didn't draft Watkins or Evans it says obviously they either didn't like those prospects or their plan had higher priority than signing them where they fell.

i said this in the San Antonio Homes thread as well...i hope Flash gets a two year ban. these continued slaps on the wrist aren't having an effect. he should proceed assuming one year, then he can find out next year he isn't accepted and has to wait and reapply again next year...and maybe not even then. like a "we'll see...no guarantees" type situation. let him interview to get back in.

these kids and their fucking entitlement mentality.

he's had plenty of chances already and got cute and beat the system with that purple drank codeine cover up...but play time is over. he is an addict by definition. with so much at stake an abuser would have stopped at strike 1 or definitely 2. the fact he can't stop shows addictive traits and an inability to stop. he's powerless to refuse when confronted with the option. a higher priority on socializing and being a celebrity will doom even the most well intentioned addicts. a couple years away from the game will dry up his money enough to help him value the privilege of being a superstar WR playing in the League and send the message home. he must cut ties with any and all from the wrong crowd first and foremost...change his location...change his behavior. change his lifestyle. change his outlook. for a shot at being the G.O.A.T. at WR...why not suck it up and just be boring and a nerd for a little while?

he must decide, what's more important?

[BadNewsBrowns]

@ballpeen said:

Beacuse they had a draft plan and plan to build the team and weren't going to allow this to cause them to make knee jerk reactions.

Yeah but the decision makers knew about it before hand... so they could have draft planned accordingly. Now we have no true #1 when two went within our reach.

[sisky fringo]

@downsouthkc said:

Doesn't make sense to me. You are about to be one of the top 2 or 3 WRs in the league and the team is being built up to win.

If the drug isn't addictive how can you not stop when you have millions on the line. I don't get it.

addictive behaviors aka poor choices can result regardless of the substance or the activity.

to me this reads: in his current circle the kid just can't say no...aka he needs to grow up and realize that long term the party can't compete with the plaque.

[jcam222]

I am really on the fence about whether this is an example of addictive behavior or just arrogance and poor judgment. With personal first hand knowledge of addiction I tend to believe in Josh's case it's more arrogance and lack of respect. He seems I feel like he is above the rules. Even now as he appeals to reduce the suspension he is likely thinking more about how to beat the next test as opposed to quitting partying. It just pisses me off more than I can put into words. I was so excited with anticipation for the draft. Day one had me pumped after the first round. Then this bomb dropped and ruined the whole experience.

[Kosar_For_President]

Farve did self referral.

[BadNewsBrowns]

@jcam222 said:

I am really on the fence about whether this is an example of addictive behavior or just arrogance and poor judgment. With personal first hand knowledge of addiction I tend to believe in Josh's case it's more arrogance and lack of respect. He seems I feel like he is above the rules. Even now as he appeals to reduce the suspension he is likely thinking more about how to beat the next test as opposed to quitting partying. It just pisses me off more than I can put into words. I was so excited with anticipation for the draft. Day one had me pumped after the first round. Then this bomb dropped and ruined the whole experience.

If that's the case I'd still say it's extreme behavior driven by arrogance fueled by addiction.

[calfoxwc]

It isn't that they can't. It's that they don't care to.

You draft for work ethic, love for the game, character,

and fire....

and if they don't meet that criteria, you tend

to cross them off your list.

All that talent, once again, wasted.

[BadNewsBrowns]

Will Gordon ever play in a Browns uniform again? Right now I would have to say probably not....

[Kosar_For_President]

Sisky is right. From experience. Addictive behavior knows no boundaries. Not saying weed is addictive, the behavior is there reguardless of the drug/food/sex. I would bet my next paycheck, dude is also drinking and blowing rails. Coke is out of ur system in 3 days. A dude in his shape weed out of his system in 30 days if he was a daily smoker.

[Kosar_For_President]

@jcam222 said:

I am really on the fence about whether this is an example of addictive behavior or just arrogance and poor judgment. With personal first hand knowledge of addiction I tend to believe in Josh's case it's more arrogance and lack of respect. He seems I feel like he is above the rules. Even now as he appeals to reduce the suspension he is likely thinking more about how to beat the next test as opposed to quitting partying. It just pisses me off more than I can put into words. I was so excited with anticipation for the draft. Day one had me pumped after the first round. Then this bomb dropped and ruined the whole experience.

I have to disagree. Addicts use knowing the consequences. There is no way he risks millions of dollar due purely to arrogance.

[Kosar_For_President]

He wouldn't risk his lifestyle, the funds for his addiction, knowingly. Dude is not making Megatron money, yet.

[D Bone]

@badnewsbrowns said:

Will Gordon ever play in a Browns uniform again? Right now I would have to say probably not....

If it's true, and if he's done for a year, then yea I hope he's played his last game for the Browns. I've said it before, but will say it again, he is a boy and we need a roster full of men to win. Let him be some other teams' problem while his replacement helps us win.

[Westside Steve]

I tend to agree with cam here.

Professional athletes, not unlike many other celebrity stations in life, are often treated with kid gloves since they are children.

Rarely will anyone tell you you are doing something wrong because you are gifted in one sense or another.

That's how some players get through college and onto a professional team without being able to read.

They get the idea that the rest of the world is stupid and will believe anything they say. I'm sure the guy just figured he could sneak by with a few tokes.

I find it hard to believe he's lying awake in a bed shivering and sweating because he needs a hit off of a joint.

Of course addiction is usually given as an excuse for just about anyone who's busted for an illegal substance.

I'm more likely to believe he's a stupid arrogant asshole than a poor pitiful addict.

WSS

[Adoug319]

I used to smoke weed, and of my circle of friends I knew who also smoked, the only people who COULD NOT stop smoking weed were the ones who we're smoking blunts. I always assumed it was because of the mix of weed and tobacco, the tobacco made you addicted. But the only way you get a tobacco fix is through smoking blunts full of weed. Unless you start cigarettes but most heavy weed smokers that I know wouldn't touch cigarettes with a 10 foot pole.

So he's probably psychologically addicted to weed, and physically addicted to the tobacco. Assuming he smokes blunts, which I'm pretty sure he does

[PoeticG]

Josh Gordon is a Beast and I don't give a fuck if he smokes weed. Plenty of athletes drink and party, if not for the outdated laws forbidding you to abstain from this substance but it's okay to use this one... that's fucking bullshit.

You fucks that want him gone can blow a fucking horse, fags. The dude just lead the NFL last year in yards with no QB! You are ready to sacrifice the kid because of some over the counter cough syrup and the gonja? Get the fuck out of here. Johnny Manziel might as well pick up and leave Cleveland now, fickle fucking fans. Jesus.

I hope Josh wins an appeal, as far as I know this is him first and only Pot related OFFENSE since joining the NFL. That should not be a season long ban.

[DieHardBrownsFan]

@poeticg said:

Josh Gordon is a Beast and I don't give a fuck if he smokes weed. Plenty of athletes drink and party, if not for the outdated laws forbidding you to abstain from this substance but it's okay to use this one... that's fucking bullshit.

You fucks that want him gone can blow a fucking horse, fags. The dude just lead the NFL last year in yards with no QB! You are ready to sacrifice the kid because of some over the counter cough syrup and the gonja? Get the fuck out of here. Johnny Manziel might as well pick up and leave Cleveland now, fickle fucking fans. Jesus.

I hope Josh wins an appeal, as far as I know this is him first and only Pot related OFFENSE since joining the NFL. That should not be a season long ban.

No, it's bullshit smoking something you know is banned in the NFL. You are being paid a lot of money and you throw it all away to get high. Thats called being a stupid fuck.

[D Bone]

@poeticg said:

Josh Gordon is a Beast and I don't give a fuck if he smokes weed. Plenty of athletes drink and party, if not for the outdated laws forbidding you to abstain from this substance but it's okay to use this one... that's fucking bullshit.

You fucks that want him gone can blow a fucking horse, fags. The dude just lead the NFL last year in yards with no QB! You are ready to sacrifice the kid because of some over the counter cough syrup and the gonja? Get the fuck out of here. Johnny Manziel might as well pick up and leave Cleveland now, fickle fucking fans. Jesus.

I hope Josh wins an appeal, as far as I know this is him first and only Pot related OFFENSE since joining the NFL. That should not be a season long ban.

You can't see the forest through the trees, as usual. I don't give a fuck if you think pot is OK or not. The NFL has it as a banned substance and against their rules........PERIOD. Josh Selfish Gordon just told every one of his teammates, coaches, FO, Owner and ALL FANS that he doesn't give a fuck about them, or football.

I know you have this weird tendency to cling onto certain players in a very strange way to say the least, that boarders a teenage girl and Justin Beiber, but if you think that it's somehow OK to completely abandon your teammates by being selfish, then you are more of an idiot then I thought...........And that I thought was impossible.

[PoeticG]

SMH.

Yeah, let's get rid of Josh because he has a positive test for weed.

You are the fucking idiot.

[D Bone]

@poeticg said:

SMH.

Yeah, let's get rid of Josh because he has a positive test for weed.

You are the fucking idiot.

I see you list "Coaching my kids" in your interests. I hope you do a much better job of conveying responsibility and accountability to them, then you do here making excuses for a player that KNEW the ramifications of his selfish actions, but did it anyway. He KNEW if caught, he would be gone for a year, built still didn't care what that would do to his team, his owner and his fans.

Hopefully for your kids' sake, you are different in real life.