Can it get any worse than this?
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It's football, and most of the US of A loves football. Cleveland loves football. Hope springs eternal with each preseason. There is some fun in going to the games. There are only 8 of these games a year spanning a 4 month period. There are plenty of weekends to do other things.
It's football, and most of the US of A loves football. Cleveland loves football. Hope springs eternal with each preseason. There is some fun in going to the games. There are only 8 of these games a year spanning a 4 month period. There are plenty of weekends to do other things.
Only fun game last year was the Mon game vs the Giants. Loves football...sure...love bad football...how much much can you take. The Cincy game was fun eh?
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Is there a point to this nonsense?
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Estrago, you think you're knocking Browns fans for being "stupid" and "liking" losing football.
You're only proving everything we already knew. Steeler "fans" are frontrunners and couldn't care less about their teams when they lose.
Estrago, you think you're knocking Browns fans for being "stupid" and "liking" losing football.
You're only proving everything we already knew. Steeler "fans" are frontrunners and couldn't care less about their teams when they lose.
Did I write that article..and who said I am a Steeler fan? The writer made a point about theTribe and Cavs and how fans behaved accordingly. Like he said, how much more can one take? Nothing was mentioned about frontrunners and not caring....only YOU did!
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Estrago, you think you're knocking Browns fans for being "stupid" and "liking" losing football.
You're only proving everything we already knew. Steeler "fans" are frontrunners and couldn't care less about their teams when they lose.
Did I write that article..and who said I am a Steeler fan? The writer made a point about theTribe and Cavs and how fans behaved accordingly. Like he said, how much more can one take? Nothing was mentioned about frontrunners and not caring....only YOU did!
Did I write that article..and who said I am a Steeler fan? The writer made a point about theTribe and Cavs and how fans behaved accordingly. Like he said, how much more can one take? Nothing was mentioned about frontrunners and not caring....only YOU did!
Guess you can't go tell all your buddies how us fans are so beaten down that you even got us to stop caring. Your pretense is charming, but you're a serious tool and typical Yinzer.
The best fair weather fans in football, the Pittsburgh Steelers.
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At first I thought this article was going to suck. But it turned out to be pretty good. Thank you for posting it.
You're Welcome
but I made a post last night quoting Bernie praising the Steelers and mentioned the hate and envy...and it got deleted because a mod didnt like it
Wonder if this post will last or if it makes them mad
You're Welcome
but I made a post last night quoting Bernie praising the Steelers and mentioned the hate and envy...and it got deleted because a mod didnt like it
Wonder if this post will last or if it makes them mad
As a mod, right now I'm in no mood to hear anything about the Steelers. Steeler trolls that comes over here to gloat will get deleted the second I find their posts.
I'm with Ballpeen- I live 220 miles from Cleveland, I could easily start rooting for the Colts, but I'll send in my $$ for another batch of season tickets come May. (No increase in prices, I'll wager.) What you folks who don't have season ticket fail to realize, you give up your PSLs- unless you happen to be a millionaire, you've just kissed decent seating at Browns games away forever. We're up to 26 years of ticket seniority- should the Browns ever make the Super Bowl, we may be in line to score tickets for the big game at face value. Should I toss that away too?
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You're Welcome
but I made a post last night quoting Bernie praising the Steelers and mentioned the hate and envy...and it got deleted because a mod didnt like it
Wonder if this post will last or if it makes them mad
As a mod, right now I'm in no mood to hear anything about the Steelers. Steeler trolls that comes over here to gloat will get deleted the second I find their posts.
I'm with Ballpeen- I live 220 miles from Cleveland, I could easily start rooting for the Colts, but I'll send in my $$ for another batch of season tickets come May. (No increase in prices, I'll wager.) What you folks who don't have season ticket fail to realize, you give up your PSLs- unless you happen to be a millionaire, you've just kissed decent seating at Browns games away forever. We're up to 26 years of ticket seniority- should the Browns ever make the Super Bowl, we may be in line to score tickets for the big game at face value. Should I toss that away too?
I live 220 miles from Cleveland, I could easily start rooting for the Colts, but I'll send in my $$ for another batch of season tickets come May. (No increase in prices, I'll wager.) What you folks who don't have season ticket fail to realize, you give up your PSLs- unless you happen to be a millionaire, you've just kissed decent seating at Browns games away forever. We're up to 26 years of ticket seniority- should the Browns ever make the Super Bowl, we may be in line to score tickets for the big game at face value. Should I toss that away too?
Thats the point of the article...how much more can you take and is it worth it? I will tell you one thing....if the Browns would ever make it to the Super Bowl, you have a very slim chance for tickets at face value. As per the PSLs, myself, Iwould not worry about it.If the Browns becaome a Super Bowl contender, you can always gets tickets(maybe not at face)
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My experience is people who start calling for people to boycott games are either trolls, or semi- fans who don't go to games anyway.
If you don't want to games.....don't go.
Kind of like fans who don't go to games and tell me how to cheer.
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You're Welcome
but I made a post last night quoting Bernie praising the Steelers and mentioned the hate and envy...and it got deleted because a mod didnt like it
Wonder if this post will last or if it makes them mad
As a mod, right now I'm in no mood to hear anything about the Steelers. Steeler trolls that comes over here to gloat will get deleted the second I find their posts.
I'm with Ballpeen- I live 220 miles from Cleveland, I could easily start rooting for the Colts, but I'll send in my $$ for another batch of season tickets come May. (No increase in prices, I'll wager.) What you folks who don't have season ticket fail to realize, you give up your PSLs- unless you happen to be a millionaire, you've just kissed decent seating at Browns games away forever. We're up to 26 years of ticket seniority- should the Browns ever make the Super Bowl, we may be in line to score tickets for the big game at face value. Should I toss that away too?
As a mod, right now I'm in no mood to hear anything about the Steelers. Steeler trolls that comes over here to gloat will get deleted the second I find their posts.
I'm with Ballpeen- I live 220 miles from Cleveland, I could easily start rooting for the Colts, but I'll send in my $$ for another batch of season tickets come May. (No increase in prices, I'll wager.) What you folks who don't have season ticket fail to realize, you give up your PSLs- unless you happen to be a millionaire, you've just kissed decent seating at Browns games away forever. We're up to 26 years of ticket seniority- should the Browns ever make the Super Bowl, we may be in line to score tickets for the big game at face value. Should I toss that away too?
Thank you for taking out the trash................................
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Estrago reminds me an awful lot of Stone, a guy who just couldn't get enough of this place.
Remember, he's just here to help.
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I think it can get a lot worse than this...see this year's Detroit Lions and Vick's Atlanta Falcons.
I can't condone second-guessing our fans for attending the games. I live too far away myself and would LOVE the chance to pay my $ and boo or cheer as needed regardless. Plus our stadium is an awesome place to hang.
Can it get any worse though? How about NOT HAVING A TEAM?! That was the freaking worst!! At least we are back in the game and in our colors.
We've been in a tough spot with our division rivals winning 3 out of the last 9 super bowls. I really don't care about that anymore. Good for them, they are still losers that are simply warming up the throne for us...they just don't know or believe it yet.
Also, our 10-6 year was pretty darn cool, if short-lived. We have a critical mass of talent that can be improved upon. Our coaching changes nearly guarantee better coaching for the upcoming year.
I'll turn it around...HOW MUCH BETTER CAN WE GET? LOTS!!!!!!!
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I've been a die-hard Browns fan since I was a kid and I'm not gonna jump ship just because my team has been in the cellar for a while.
You can call us Browns fans foolish/stupid/idiotic, etc. But I think we show the NFL what TRUE FANS are, someone who sticks with their team through the good times AND the bad times, even if the bad times seem to never end.
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I think it can get a lot worse than this...see this year's Detroit Lions and Vick's Atlanta Falcons.
I can't condone second-guessing our fans for attending the games. I live too far away myself and would LOVE the chance to pay my $ and boo or cheer as needed regardless. Plus our stadium is an awesome place to hang.
Can it get any worse though? How about NOT HAVING A TEAM?! That was the freaking worst!! At least we are back in the game and in our colors.
We've been in a tough spot with our division rivals winning 3 out of the last 9 super bowls. I really don't care about that anymore. Good for them, they are still losers that are simply warming up the throne for us...they just don't know or believe it yet.
Also, our 10-6 year was pretty darn cool, if short-lived. We have a critical mass of talent that can be improved upon. Our coaching changes nearly guarantee better coaching for the upcoming year.
I'll turn it around...HOW MUCH BETTER CAN WE GET? LOTS!!!!!!!
c-dawg said:
I think it can get a lot worse than this...see this year's Detroit Lions and Vick's Atlanta Falcons.0-16 or no team? hmmmmm...at least when the Browns were gone there was no moaning on Monday morning but there was no chance to win either.
Look I dont expect the Stadium to be empty if the Browns play like they have for 8 of the past 10 years but to just blindly and emotionaly keep going & supporting that if it continues is not right either.
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Estrago reminds me an awful lot of Stone, a guy who just couldn't get enough of this place.
Remember, he's just here to help.
Estrago reminds me an awful lot of Stone, a guy who just couldn't get enough of this place.
Remember, he's just here to help.
Thanks for reminding me that Estrago is just here to help ... sometimes I forget where I even shit last and I have to call my Mom and ask her.
I don't know what I'd do without all you fine people in my life.
Hey Estrago, anymore cool articles about how if we changed the teams colors that our colors would be different?
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c-dawg said:
I think it can get a lot worse than this...see this year's Detroit Lions and Vick's Atlanta Falcons.0-16 or no team? hmmmmm...at least when the Browns were gone there was no moaning on Monday morning but there was no chance to win either.
Look I dont expect the Stadium to be empty if the Browns play like they have for 8 of the past 10 years but to just blindly and emotionaly keep going & supporting that if it continues is not right either.
0-16 or no team? hmmmmm...at least when the Browns were gone there was no moaning on Monday morning but there was no chance to win either.
For you to make a comment like that not only proves that you are not nor have you ever been a Browns fan but it also proves that you are a fairweather fan that would bail on their team at the first sign of trouble. How pathetic.
Go away. You are not worthy of our company.
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c-dawg said:
I think it can get a lot worse than this...see this year's Detroit Lions and Vick's Atlanta Falcons.0-16 or no team? hmmmmm...at least when the Browns were gone there was no moaning on Monday morning but there was no chance to win either.
Look I dont expect the Stadium to be empty if the Browns play like they have for 8 of the past 10 years but to just blindly and emotionaly keep going & supporting that if it continues is not right either.
0-16 or no team? hmmmmm...at least when the Browns were gone there was no moaning on Monday morning but there was no chance to win either.
Look I dont expect the Stadium to be empty if the Browns play like they have for 8 of the past 10 years but to just blindly and emotionaly keep going & supporting that if it continues is not right either.
Sorry E, but I MOANED every Sunday AND Monday we didn't field a team FOR YEARS. There is no "at least" EXCEPT "at least we have a team."
I get your perspective, we are enablers. Damn straight! If anyone wants to sell their season tickets I'll gladly buy them and drive the six hours to the game and wear a jersey with ESTRAGO on the back in your honor! Win or lose!
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Pitt fans enjoy the slow roasting goodness of long suffering diehard browns fans they know we wont abandon our browns no more then the will abandon shittsburg when they finally go down the crapper...its all in good fun to them and honestly we would be doing the same thing to them if their team sucked as bad as ours..
Puke fans are somewhat annoying during the season but entertaining in the off season since our off season always starts immediately after game 16...
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I live 220 miles from Cleveland, I could easily start rooting for the Colts, but I'll send in my $$ for another batch of season tickets come May. (No increase in prices, I'll wager.) What you folks who don't have season ticket fail to realize, you give up your PSLs- unless you happen to be a millionaire, you've just kissed decent seating at Browns games away forever. We're up to 26 years of ticket seniority- should the Browns ever make the Super Bowl, we may be in line to score tickets for the big game at face value. Should I toss that away too?
Thats the point of the article...how much more can you take and is it worth it? I will tell you one thing....if the Browns would ever make it to the Super Bowl, you have a very slim chance for tickets at face value. As per the PSLs, myself, Iwould not worry about it.If the Browns becaome a Super Bowl contender, you can always gets tickets(maybe not at face)
Thats the point of the article...how much more can you take and is it worth it? I will tell you one thing....if the Browns would ever make it to the Super Bowl, you have a very slim chance for tickets at face value. As per the PSLs, myself, I would not worry about it.If the Browns became a Super Bowl contender, you can always gets tickets(maybe not at face)
You're bordering on trolldom. You really think guys that have plunked down money on season tickets for 25+ years are going to shit-can them? Doesn't even factor into the equation if it's "worth it". The corporate types up in the Club level spend $5k a year- or way more- on seats, and don't even bother to show up 1\2 the time. Even after 10 years of crap Browns football, field level PSL seat upgrades that aren't on E-Bay at an exorbitant price are impossible to find. We've been trying the "official" route for the last 5 years, FYI.
BTW, the participating teams in the Super Bowl get about 12,000 seats per game. I'd say we're now in the top 10% in seniority. Unless you want to tell me the club is going to take 1\2 of those seats for perks, I like my odds. You ever checked the price of Super Bowl tickets on Stubhub? It's beyond the means of all but the very richest fans- unless you want to take out a second mortgage on the house to go. I thought I had a cheap out a few years back, because I have a good friend in Detroit that could let me stay at his house. Just to get into the nosebleeds at Ford Field were $2,000 apiece, and they went up-way up from there. That's why you see the plethora of movie stars and magnates at the SB- they're the only folks who can afford those tickets on the secondary market.
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Thats the point of the article...how much more can you take and is it worth it? I will tell you one thing....if the Browns would ever make it to the Super Bowl, you have a very slim chance for tickets at face value. As per the PSLs, myself, I would not worry about it.If the Browns became a Super Bowl contender, you can always gets tickets(maybe not at face)
You're bordering on trolldom. You really think guys that have plunked down money on season tickets for 25+ years are going to shit-can them? Doesn't even factor into the equation if it's "worth it". The corporate types up in the Club level spend $5k a year- or way more- on seats, and don't even bother to show up 1\2 the time. Even after 10 years of crap Browns football, field level PSL seat upgrades that aren't on E-Bay at an exorbitant price are impossible to find. We've been trying the "official" route for the last 5 years, FYI.
BTW, the participating teams in the Super Bowl get about 12,000 seats per game. I'd say we're now in the top 10% in seniority. Unless you want to tell me the club is going to take 1\2 of those seats for perks, I like my odds. You ever checked the price of Super Bowl tickets on Stubhub? It's beyond the means of all but the very richest fans- unless you want to take out a second mortgage on the house to go. I thought I had a cheap out a few years back, because I have a good friend in Detroit that could let me stay at his house. Just to get into the nosebleeds at Ford Field were $2,000 apiece, and they went up-way up from there. That's why you see the plethora of movie stars and magnates at the SB- they're the only folks who can afford those tickets on the secondary market.
Even after 10 years of crap Browns football, field level PSL seat upgrades that aren't on E-Bay at an exorbitant price are impossible to find. We've been trying the "official" route for the last 5 years, FYI.
I have seats on the north side upper deck. I've been trying to move UP a few rows and can't get an "up"grade. Since I live in South Carolina, I sell my tickets to any games my family doesn't attend. This year it was easier than ever to find a buyer. The only thing I can figure out is that when the Browns are playing well, people will pay more for better seats. When the team sucks, the cheap seats are just fine, thank you very much. Curiously, I couldn't find buyers for the night games, when the Browns seemed to perform at their best. Apparently Browns fans also value their sleep.
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