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  • Westside Steve W Dedicated Reacting Well Posting Machine Collaborator First Post Conversation Starter Week One Done One Year In One Month Later Very Popular
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    A couple thoughts. First I sympathize with the president in this situation. As much as I don't agree with him or like him most of the time he's a human being and a father.

    I would imagine he is furious about this situation especially because he, being the most powerful man in the free world, is completely without satisfactory options here.

    My second thought is that whatever the percentage is of rational Muslims around the world, and I assume its a reasonably large percentage, it is well past time they should be speaking out .

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      DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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      Nigeria is a country of crooks, drug addicts and savages. What we are going to do there? Not a damn thing. This shit goes on all the time with kidnappings and selling into slavery.

      "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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        Nigeria is a country of crooks, drug addicts and savages. What we are going to do there? Not a damn thing. This shit goes on all the time with kidnappings and selling into slavery.

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        Browns149B Browns149 wrote on last edited by
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        @diehardbrownsfan said:

        Nigeria is a country of crooks, drug addicts and savages. What we are going to do there? Not a damn thing. This shit goes on all the time with kidnappings and selling into slavery.

        The USA is a country of crooks, drug addicts and savages also. But at least here we try to do something. It doesn't always work, but there is an effort

        "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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          DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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          Go to Nigeria and tell me the similarities.

          "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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            Go to Nigeria and tell me the similarities.

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            Browns149B Browns149 wrote on last edited by Browns149
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            @diehardbrownsfan said:

            Go to Nigeria and tell me the similarities.

            No thanks. I will stay here with our drug addicts, crooks and savages. Here we try to help such people, by putting them in jails. LOL

            Over there the Gov't doesn't care about anyone

            "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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            • W Westside Steve

              A couple thoughts. First I sympathize with the president in this situation. As much as I don't agree with him or like him most of the time he's a human being and a father.

              I would imagine he is furious about this situation especially because he, being the most powerful man in the free world, is completely without satisfactory options here.

              My second thought is that whatever the percentage is of rational Muslims around the world, and I assume its a reasonably large percentage, it is well past time they should be speaking out .

              WSS

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              OsirisO Osiris wrote on last edited by
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              @westside-steve said:

              A couple thoughts. First I sympathize with the president in this situation. As much as I don't agree with him or like him most of the time he's a human being and a father.

              I would imagine he is furious about this situation especially because he, being the most powerful man in the free world, is completely without satisfactory options here.

              My second thought is that whatever the percentage is of rational Muslims around the world, and I assume its a reasonably large percentage, it is well past time they should be speaking out .

              WSS

              It's a common misconception that we are not speaking out. We can't force the media to report it, though. You want to hear those voices, you'll need to follow non-Western media outlets.

              "I said, 'I need someone who's going to want to get on the roller coaster with me knowing that it's not always going to be fun,'" -Paul DePodesta
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                @westside-steve said:

                A couple thoughts. First I sympathize with the president in this situation. As much as I don't agree with him or like him most of the time he's a human being and a father.

                I would imagine he is furious about this situation especially because he, being the most powerful man in the free world, is completely without satisfactory options here.

                My second thought is that whatever the percentage is of rational Muslims around the world, and I assume its a reasonably large percentage, it is well past time they should be speaking out .

                WSS

                It's a common misconception that we are not speaking out. We can't force the media to report it, though. You want to hear those voices, you'll need to follow non-Western media outlets.

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                gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                @osiris said:

                It's a common misconception that we are not speaking out. We can't force the media to report it, though. You want to hear those voices, you'll need to follow non-Western media outlets.

                Such as? I suspect that truly unbiased reporting coming from Africa is a difficult thing to find! That being said, a friend of mine is actually a journalist specialising in Africa - he's just been posted to South Sudan for 6 months or so I think.

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                  DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                  Only time I see Muslims speaking out is after 9/11 in Gaza celebrating.

                  "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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                    Only time I see Muslims speaking out is after 9/11 in Gaza celebrating.

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                    gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by gftChris
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                    @diehardbrownsfan said:

                    Only time I see Muslims speaking out is after 9/11 in Gaza celebrating.

                    Why do you think that is? The kneejerk 'libtard' answer is of course to blame the western media, 'fox is so right wing it hates muslims etc etc' but I suspect it's more than just that.

                    BTW, in Osiris you're seeing a muslim here speaking out against these things...

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                      Well I realized that Fox news is the the worlds go to boogeyman but i probably watch more MSNBC, just to see what the opposition view is I've heard almost nothing there either so...

                      And I don't get the feeling that our friend Osiris is all that devout. I may be wrong...

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                      • W Westside Steve

                        Well I realized that Fox news is the the worlds go to boogeyman but i probably watch more MSNBC, just to see what the opposition view is I've heard almost nothing there either so...

                        And I don't get the feeling that our friend Osiris is all that devout. I may be wrong...

                        WSS

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                        gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                        @westside-steve said:

                        Well I realized that Fox news is the the worlds go to boogeyman but i probably watch more MSNBC, just to see what the opposition view is I've heard almost nothing there either so...

                        And I don't get the feeling that our friend Osiris is all that devout. I may be wrong...

                        WSS

                        Do you have to be a devout christian to speak out against WBC? I'm pretty sure nobody here really supports picketing dead soldiers' funerals.

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                          W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by Westside Steve
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                          Yes I think so if in fact you are to be considered a representative for the national media. I went to church when I was younger but I don't think I'm probably a good spokesman for Christianity.

                          And it's the national media I'm speaking of. I'm just not hearing the outcry, sorry not even on al Jazeera America.

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                            Kosar_For_PresidentK Kosar_For_President wrote on last edited by
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                            Send in Johnny Football

                            Luck is Tim Couch. Big, Dumb Goofy, slow thinking QB - Ghoolie, 2-28-12
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                              @osiris said:

                              It's a common misconception that we are not speaking out. We can't force the media to report it, though. You want to hear those voices, you'll need to follow non-Western media outlets.

                              Such as? I suspect that truly unbiased reporting coming from Africa is a difficult thing to find! That being said, a friend of mine is actually a journalist specialising in Africa - he's just been posted to South Sudan for 6 months or so I think.

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                              OsirisO Osiris wrote on last edited by Osiris
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                              @gftchris said:

                              Such as? I suspect that truly unbiased reporting coming from Africa is a difficult thing to find! That being said, a friend of mine is actually a journalist specialising in Africa - he's just been posted to South Sudan for 6 months or so I think.

                              I take my news in by radio and by reading, not so much by TV. Obviously there is no such thing as unbiased reporting in this day and age, so what I do often is read from multiple sources. I like public sources like NPR, as well as BBC and Al-Jazeera. I think you can start getting at some sort of truth by doing this.

                              Also, I consider myself reasonably devout (my definition of devout rejects the primacy of ritual and rote learning), though not conventional in my approach to religion and more liberal and willing to question than the average Muslim. I think too many people focus on the ritualistic aspects (in all religions) and not enough on the intellectual, human (and humane) aspects of it.

                              And gftChris is correct. If you read what I've been saying, I've obviously been speaking out about it. I at one time had a website called takebackislam.org which was a website and forum designed to discuss and answer questions about Islam. "Take Back Islam" was a reference to the feeling many Muslims have that the definition of our religion is being hijacked by both extremists and the media that would like to portray all of us as said extremists and the idea that Muslims should take that control back from them.

                              I've also written articles and submitted them to newspapers (example: right after the Marathon bombings that occurred 30 minutes from my home), but they chose not to publish them. So like I said, we can and do speak (their are entire organizations/websites devoted to speaking), but the other part of speaking is that someone needs to be willing to listen. This forum is a testament to the fact that most people only listen to those they already agree with.

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                                @diehardbrownsfan said:

                                Only time I see Muslims speaking out is after 9/11 in Gaza celebrating.

                                Why do you think that is? The kneejerk 'libtard' answer is of course to blame the western media, 'fox is so right wing it hates muslims etc etc' but I suspect it's more than just that.

                                BTW, in Osiris you're seeing a muslim here speaking out against these things...

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                                DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                                @gftchris said:

                                Why do you think that is? The kneejerk 'libtard' answer is of course to blame the western media, 'fox is so right wing it hates muslims etc etc' but I suspect it's more than just that.

                                BTW, in Osiris you're seeing a muslim here speaking out against these things...

                                Don't hear much about this anymore. Is England under Sharia law?

                                "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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                                  Perhaps you don't hear about it DieHard, and why should you, but it's still big news here. The judge performing the sentencing actually held off until the outcome of another case where they were deciding whether life without chance of parole (I think) was a possible sentence for some people. These two guys got it, obviously.

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                                    Should have ridden the three legged Mare at tyburn. England has gone soft.

                                    Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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