Global warming in Ohio
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You're talkin compost? No, there are proper ways to compose. I wouldn't mess up our woods that way.
If it gets above freezing today (it's only 27 now).. I'm going to go out and start pruning the old fruit trees.
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@shepwrite said:
This isn't a majority opinion. It's a consensus of the legitimate scientific community.
nice source there shep.....legitimate
i love these threads.....just the same regurgitation of the arguments of both sides....
anyone here and ACTUAL scientist? then dont speak for them.....
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mz. said:
You have no idea how any of us live, man. But at least you're smart enough (presumably) to believe in science, which puts you in the upper echelon of brains around here.Great mz the pussy actually I do know a little but for arguments sake why don't you tell me just how spartan your personal life is amd how much more you're willing to give up for Saint Barack (who keeps the whitehouse at 72)
C'mon young dude.
It's the life of the planet at stake right??
For me? Sure there's a rise in global temps.
Sure I guess CO2 from humans plays a part.
Sure it's probably also a natural cycle.
But I don't care much.
We AREN"T going to reduce the population grrowth and we are NOT going to live in an eco friendly manner.
And the growing economies of the really overpopulated hell holes of the world don't give a rat's ass.
WSS
But I don't care much.
Shocking.
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Cal: do you truly believe man is not causing damage to the Earth?
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The subject is global warming. Man damaging the earth is a different deal.
The destruction of the rainforests is a huge damage to the earth, and may be
increasing the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere. but even that is hardly
significant at all, compared to the effects of the sun.
Correlate solar flares with temps on the earth, and voila ! You have global warming.
but we're talking millions and millions of acres that has been destroyed.
and pollution? Is a sick and twisted way to gain anything from ruining, eventually, everything.
Two different issues. If I were pres, I would go after any company that intentionally dumps poisons
into the earth, water or air. Shut em down til their tech is revamped, given federal funding assistance...
It can cost many millions of dollars to install filters,etc.
but to tell people they have to vote Democratic/socialist and stop driving pickup trucks and SUV's and they
should paint the earth white to reflect the sun and shiver in their basements in winter with no heat and be taxed in a bijillion
ways to fund whatever to not have the earth spontaneously combust in ten years...
bogus. fraudulent manipulation of others, a cherry picked science-"backed" emotional appeal for whatever
Al Gore and cronies dream of...
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.
It's solar flares, gradual tempurature fluctuation trends that warm and cold over centuries, over our entire history.
The subject is global warming. Man damaging the earth is a different deal.
Yes and no, cal. Despite what some folks thing, scientists track a trend in global warming, which they believe is a result of the damage we are causing. So, the subject is global warming, but that warming is just a piece of data to rally behind to warn folks of the damage we are doing.
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You're talkin compost? No, there are proper ways to compose. I wouldn't mess up our woods that way.
If it gets above freezing today (it's only 27 now).. I'm going to go out and start pruning the old fruit trees.
You're talkin compost? No, there are proper ways to compose. I wouldn't mess up our woods that way.
If it gets above freezing today (it's only 27 now).. I'm going to go out and start pruning the old fruit trees.
No, a feed pile for the wild game. you can take a 4" pvc pipe drill a few holes in the side and then take a 2 liter bottle cut it in half, use one as a cap and the other as the funnel. fill it full of corn and secure it along side a tree about 2 to 4 inches from touching the ground and as the wild game comes by and eats it will continually poor through the bottom. (a simple gravity feeder)
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Well, that's functional, but ugly and unnatural. we are keeping our woods natural woods.
Some big stumps that are left over from a few big trees being logged and sold about 40 years ago... are the platforms for
a pile of grain we keep refilling...
that, and this big flat rock on the other side of the bog.
But our woods are incredibly scenic, and beautiful. We want to keep it that way.
Although, if it's just a tree out in a field or at the end of a long backyard, it would work fine...
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mz. said:
You have no idea how any of us live, man. But at least you're smart enough (presumably) to believe in science, which puts you in the upper echelon of brains around here.Great mz the pussy actually I do know a little but for arguments sake why don't you tell me just how spartan your personal life is amd how much more you're willing to give up for Saint Barack (who keeps the whitehouse at 72)
C'mon young dude.
It's the life of the planet at stake right??
For me? Sure there's a rise in global temps.
Sure I guess CO2 from humans plays a part.
Sure it's probably also a natural cycle.
But I don't care much.
We AREN"T going to reduce the population grrowth and we are NOT going to live in an eco friendly manner.
And the growing economies of the really overpopulated hell holes of the world don't give a rat's ass.
WSS
Great mz the pussy actually I do know a little but for arguments sake why don't you tell me just how spartan your personal life is amd how much more you're willing to give up for Saint Barack (who keeps the whitehouse at 72)
C'mon young dude.
It's the life of the planet at stake right??
For me? Sure there's a rise in global temps.
Sure I guess CO2 from humans plays a part.
Sure it's probably also a natural cycle.
But I don't care much.
We AREN"T going to reduce the population grrowth and we are NOT going to live in an eco friendly manner.
And the growing economies of the really overpopulated hell holes of the world don't give a rat's ass.
WSS
I agree Steve.
Most of my apathy on the matter stems from 1 person, which is sad when I think about it.
Global Warming/Climate change is an enormous racket and until "the scientific community" and "everyone else awash in the hysteria" can convince the world's most recognizable spokesperson to stop being such an effing hypocrite, it will continue to be simply a racket.
Why don't the major players in the "scientific community" step up & tell that buffoon to get his act together, and he'd be much more effective? Because their funding would be cut and they would get their name on "the list."
I also don't like Cameron fcuk Diaz (etc.) telling me how to live my life all because she dug under her sofa and bought a Prius to drive to & fro' the grocery store when she's home for 2 weeks out of the year. Because for the other 50, she's flying around in a plane & helicopter with Drew Barrymore & Redman & providing the world with the dumbest half hour on television and the world's shittiest movies. Not to mention the catering trays that could feed a village for a month that get thrown away daily. She & the rest of that "community" can shove it up their collective asses (no offense, Shep). No wonder the world hates us, thanks to the internet & TV that & the other side of the coin (Jerry Springer-ville) is what has been piping to the rest of the world for 30+ years.
And speaking of hybrids, if said "scientific community" was so effing brilliant, where is the diesel electric hybrid? A Diesel is infinitely more efficient than a gasoline ICE and particularly excels on "highway miles." Also, almost conveniently coincidentally, this is where the (current) electric engine struggles. The diesel's efficiency is severely lost when driving "city miles." Which, wait for it.......
IS WHERE THE MOTHER-EFFING HYBRID EXCELS. FCUK!
Ethanol should be abandoned and it's funding & effort be focused on all forms of biodiesel. B100 (100% Biodiesel - no petroleum) emits zero greenhouse gases, and you don't lose the mileage (efficiency) or horsepower (work) that you do with ethanol. The nationwide distribution system is already in place - logistics nightmare, solved. But, since this is still a political problem and not an environmental one, we are forced into this dumbshit racket. Fat-fcuk should give his Nobel Prize to the Rudolf Diesel estate and abandon his self-imposed notion that he is actually making a difference - and I don't know, maybe shut his face for about 5-10 years.
So, until said geniuses (politicians, not scientists - the tech is already here) make an honest attempt at a real solution they can all suck on the 4" tailpipe of my F350 7.3L that currently makes about 510bhp & 684 ft/lbs of torque that can still roast 35" tires at 25mph as I dump 15ppm of sulfur into the atmosphere every time I stand on it.
I suck.
Sure, luck means a lot in football. Not having a good quarterback is bad luck. -Don Shula -
Okay, that was the funniest post on the entire subject ever, CONGRATS ! (Rof,l)
I am looking into a grant to purchase, perhaps collectively with local farmers -
a small biodiesel fuel producing outfit.
There's a "new" plant in PA that generates biediesel very efficiently, don't remember the name of it -
but some PA farmers are seriously considering jumping on board to grow it.
Ethanol is very inefficient, ... you lose 30% of your gas mileage? what's it for, then?
The limitations in using the mix, to preclude engine damage...
give it up. Food prices, corn seed and fertilizer will go back down and the money, time and energy
is better suited elsewhere.
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Thanks, Cal.
This is the post where I apologize for gratuitous use of the f-word in the previous one. It was early.
This is also where I point out that I think global warming/climate change/name change is a real problem. I think humans and their habits contribute to the problem and there are conflicting reports as to what degree.
This is also where I point out that I admire & respect the effort that sev puts into conservation and "living green." I currently can't afford to make any real changes at the moment, but I can (and have) certainly modify my behavior & consumption. My truck is now 10 years old, extremely well maintained, extremely reliable, and paid for. And the dukes of hazzard shit I was talking about earlier I haven't done since my children were born, because I'm a grown up & have responsibilities.
Back to sev: in the sierra club's doomiest & gloomiest scenario of how much effect humans have on carbon output, the super-spartan changes sev has made to his lifestyle would not offset population growth. Nor would it offset 3rd world industrial revolutions we are seeing. In the event that humans aren't the sole producers of carbon emissions (hard to imagine, right?
), we are in an even worse hole. Technology is currently evolving to improve the way the pipes catch & distribute the heat from the fire, but why can't (or why wont) we start with changing what we throw into the fire? Like biodiesel, nuk-yah-ler power, etc.
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Great mz the pussy actually I do know a little but for arguments sake why don't you tell me just how spartan your personal life is amd how much more you're willing to give up for Saint Barack (who keeps the whitehouse at 72)
C'mon young dude.
It's the life of the planet at stake right??
For me? Sure there's a rise in global temps.
Sure I guess CO2 from humans plays a part.
Sure it's probably also a natural cycle.
But I don't care much.
We AREN"T going to reduce the population grrowth and we are NOT going to live in an eco friendly manner.
And the growing economies of the really overpopulated hell holes of the world don't give a rat's ass.
WSS
I agree Steve.
Most of my apathy on the matter stems from 1 person, which is sad when I think about it.
Global Warming/Climate change is an enormous racket and until "the scientific community" and "everyone else awash in the hysteria" can convince the world's most recognizable spokesperson to stop being such an effing hypocrite, it will continue to be simply a racket.
Why don't the major players in the "scientific community" step up & tell that buffoon to get his act together, and he'd be much more effective? Because their funding would be cut and they would get their name on "the list."
I also don't like Cameron fcuk Diaz (etc.) telling me how to live my life all because she dug under her sofa and bought a Prius to drive to & fro' the grocery store when she's home for 2 weeks out of the year. Because for the other 50, she's flying around in a plane & helicopter with Drew Barrymore & Redman & providing the world with the dumbest half hour on television and the world's shittiest movies. Not to mention the catering trays that could feed a village for a month that get thrown away daily. She & the rest of that "community" can shove it up their collective asses (no offense, Shep). No wonder the world hates us, thanks to the internet & TV that & the other side of the coin (Jerry Springer-ville) is what has been piping to the rest of the world for 30+ years.
And speaking of hybrids, if said "scientific community" was so effing brilliant, where is the diesel electric hybrid? A Diesel is infinitely more efficient than a gasoline ICE and particularly excels on "highway miles." Also, almost conveniently coincidentally, this is where the (current) electric engine struggles. The diesel's efficiency is severely lost when driving "city miles." Which, wait for it.......
IS WHERE THE MOTHER-EFFING HYBRID EXCELS. FCUK!
Ethanol should be abandoned and it's funding & effort be focused on all forms of biodiesel. B100 (100% Biodiesel - no petroleum) emits zero greenhouse gases, and you don't lose the mileage (efficiency) or horsepower (work) that you do with ethanol. The nationwide distribution system is already in place - logistics nightmare, solved. But, since this is still a political problem and not an environmental one, we are forced into this dumbshit racket. Fat-fcuk should give his Nobel Prize to the Rudolf Diesel estate and abandon his self-imposed notion that he is actually making a difference - and I don't know, maybe shut his face for about 5-10 years.
So, until said geniuses (politicians, not scientists - the tech is already here) make an honest attempt at a real solution they can all suck on the 4" tailpipe of my F350 7.3L that currently makes about 510bhp & 684 ft/lbs of torque that can still roast 35" tires at 25mph as I dump 15ppm of sulfur into the atmosphere every time I stand on it.
I suck.
I agree Steve.
Most of my apathy on the matter stems from 1 person, which is sad when I think about it.
Global Warming/Climate change is an enormous racket and until "the scientific community" and "everyone else awash in the hysteria" can convince the world's most recognizable spokesperson to stop being such an effing hypocrite, it will continue to be simply a racket.
Why don't the major players in the "scientific community" step up & tell that buffoon to get his act together, and he'd be much more effective? Because their funding would be cut and they would get their name on "the list."
I also don't like Cameron fcuk Diaz (etc.) telling me how to live my life all because she dug under her sofa and bought a Prius to drive to & fro' the grocery store when she's home for 2 weeks out of the year. Because for the other 50, she's flying around in a plane & helicopter with Drew Barrymore & Redman & providing the world with the dumbest half hour on television and the world's shittiest movies. Not to mention the catering trays that could feed a village for a month that get thrown away daily. She & the rest of that "community" can shove it up their collective asses (no offense, Shep). No wonder the world hates us, thanks to the internet & TV that & the other side of the coin (Jerry Springer-ville) is what has been piping to the rest of the world for 30+ years.
And speaking of hybrids, if said "scientific community" was so effing brilliant, where is the diesel electric hybrid? A Diesel is infinitely more efficient than a gasoline ICE and particularly excels on "highway miles." Also, almost conveniently coincidentally, this is where the (current) electric engine struggles. The diesel's efficiency is severely lost when driving "city miles." Which, wait for it.......
IS WHERE THE MOTHER-EFFING HYBRID EXCELS. FCUK!
Ethanol should be abandoned and it's funding & effort be focused on all forms of biodiesel. B100 (100% Biodiesel - no petroleum) emits zero greenhouse gases, and you don't lose the mileage (efficiency) or horsepower (work) that you do with ethanol. The nationwide distribution system is already in place - logistics nightmare, solved. But, since this is still a political problem and not an environmental one, we are forced into this dumbshit racket. Fat-fcuk should give his Nobel Prize to the Rudolf Diesel estate and abandon his self-imposed notion that he is actually making a difference - and I don't know, maybe shut his face for about 5-10 years.
So, until said geniuses (politicians, not scientists - the tech is already here) make an honest attempt at a real solution they can all suck on the 4" tailpipe of my F350 7.3L that currently makes about 510bhp & 684 ft/lbs of torque that can still roast 35" tires at 25mph as I dump 15ppm of sulfur into the atmosphere every time I stand on it.
I suck.
And Dentists need an F350 7.3 L with 510 bhp and 684 lbs tq for what? To pull out REALLY TOUGH teeth?
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I agree Steve.
Most of my apathy on the matter stems from 1 person, which is sad when I think about it.
Global Warming/Climate change is an enormous racket and until "the scientific community" and "everyone else awash in the hysteria" can convince the world's most recognizable spokesperson to stop being such an effing hypocrite, it will continue to be simply a racket.
Why don't the major players in the "scientific community" step up & tell that buffoon to get his act together, and he'd be much more effective? Because their funding would be cut and they would get their name on "the list."
I also don't like Cameron fcuk Diaz (etc.) telling me how to live my life all because she dug under her sofa and bought a Prius to drive to & fro' the grocery store when she's home for 2 weeks out of the year. Because for the other 50, she's flying around in a plane & helicopter with Drew Barrymore & Redman & providing the world with the dumbest half hour on television and the world's shittiest movies. Not to mention the catering trays that could feed a village for a month that get thrown away daily. She & the rest of that "community" can shove it up their collective asses (no offense, Shep). No wonder the world hates us, thanks to the internet & TV that & the other side of the coin (Jerry Springer-ville) is what has been piping to the rest of the world for 30+ years.
And speaking of hybrids, if said "scientific community" was so effing brilliant, where is the diesel electric hybrid? A Diesel is infinitely more efficient than a gasoline ICE and particularly excels on "highway miles." Also, almost conveniently coincidentally, this is where the (current) electric engine struggles. The diesel's efficiency is severely lost when driving "city miles." Which, wait for it.......
IS WHERE THE MOTHER-EFFING HYBRID EXCELS. FCUK!
Ethanol should be abandoned and it's funding & effort be focused on all forms of biodiesel. B100 (100% Biodiesel - no petroleum) emits zero greenhouse gases, and you don't lose the mileage (efficiency) or horsepower (work) that you do with ethanol. The nationwide distribution system is already in place - logistics nightmare, solved. But, since this is still a political problem and not an environmental one, we are forced into this dumbshit racket. Fat-fcuk should give his Nobel Prize to the Rudolf Diesel estate and abandon his self-imposed notion that he is actually making a difference - and I don't know, maybe shut his face for about 5-10 years.
So, until said geniuses (politicians, not scientists - the tech is already here) make an honest attempt at a real solution they can all suck on the 4" tailpipe of my F350 7.3L that currently makes about 510bhp & 684 ft/lbs of torque that can still roast 35" tires at 25mph as I dump 15ppm of sulfur into the atmosphere every time I stand on it.
I suck.
And Dentists need an F350 7.3 L with 510 bhp and 684 lbs tq for what? To pull out REALLY TOUGH teeth?
And Dentists need an F350 7.3 L with 510 bhp and 684 lbs tq for what? To pull out REALLY TOUGH teeth?
Enough time has passed for one of these:
Go ahead & read where I say the truck is 10 years old. I'm 29 now, do the math.
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