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  • Harry Buffalo Harry BuffaloH
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    Harry BuffaloH Harry Buffalo wrote on last edited by
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    I don't think the Browns are going to trade for a guy without figuring out if he would like to play for them.

    Ruining threads since 1897.
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      BTW, I guess after 200 posts you can yell by using caps and cussing people out.

      Up to now I thought this was a good site.

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        I am not sure how next years draft stacks up but I don't want to see Farmer giving away picks (again). I really liked his draft but with 10 picks we walked away with 6 players, they do have 2 extra picks next year. No more next year after next year. We need a receiver but Johnson is too expensive. I really don't think Johnson would be happy in Cleveland, his comments about Houston are no different that what has happened in Cleveland.

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        @acmikeac said:

        I am not sure how next years draft stacks up but I don't want to see Farmer giving away picks (again).

        This is the sentence where you went wrong. You followed with stating you liked the draft, then followed that with the word "but." Sounds like you don't know what you think, and you've made your assessment about this being a bad board after....what 1 week? Good luck with the reception of your opinions going forward.
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          @acmikeac said:

          I am not sure how next years draft stacks up but I don't want to see Farmer giving away picks (again).

          This is the sentence where you went wrong. You followed with stating you liked the draft, then followed that with the word "but." Sounds like you don't know what you think, and you've made your assessment about this being a bad board after....what 1 week? Good luck with the reception of your opinions going forward.
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          @bummie said:

          This is the sentence where you went wrong. You followed with stating you liked the draft, then followed that with the word "but." Sounds like you don't know what you think, and you've made your assessment about this being a bad board after....what 1 week? Good luck with the reception of your opinions going forward.

          You think I went wrong? Because you don't agree, I still have not seen a valid explanation for going 9-8. It wasn't abbig deal but it was a give away. It's just like Buffalo giving away too much for Watkins, except in that case they went way overboard and gave part of the farm away.

          Like I said, i thought this site was pretty good. Ranting and raving like a lunatic leaves something to be desired. I did notice that since you didn't have 200 posts you didn't use caps.

          As far reception of opinions for you and your buddy, look in the mirror.

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            @bummie said:

            This is the sentence where you went wrong. You followed with stating you liked the draft, then followed that with the word "but." Sounds like you don't know what you think, and you've made your assessment about this being a bad board after....what 1 week? Good luck with the reception of your opinions going forward.

            You think I went wrong? Because you don't agree, I still have not seen a valid explanation for going 9-8. It wasn't abbig deal but it was a give away. It's just like Buffalo giving away too much for Watkins, except in that case they went way overboard and gave part of the farm away.

            Like I said, i thought this site was pretty good. Ranting and raving like a lunatic leaves something to be desired. I did notice that since you didn't have 200 posts you didn't use caps.

            As far reception of opinions for you and your buddy, look in the mirror.

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            B Bummie wrote on last edited by
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            @acmikeac said:

            You think I went wrong? Because you don't agree,

            No, it's because you started by stating you didn't like that we didn't draft 10 guys, then you liked it, then you didn't like it. It's simple. It's called contradiction. We all do it. Just don't turn into a baby because someone noticed it. And I don't have to use caps to drive home my point. I lay it out for you as simple as I can, and when you read it, that feeling that builds inside you, that feeling you get from being shut down over and over, THAT is far more powerful than "yelling" with caps. And before you attempt a counter argument about the word "THAT," which I just used, that is for effect, like a punchline in a joke. It lets you know the point is about the be made.
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              @bummie said:

              This is the sentence where you went wrong. You followed with stating you liked the draft, then followed that with the word "but." Sounds like you don't know what you think, and you've made your assessment about this being a bad board after....what 1 week? Good luck with the reception of your opinions going forward.

              You think I went wrong? Because you don't agree, I still have not seen a valid explanation for going 9-8. It wasn't abbig deal but it was a give away. It's just like Buffalo giving away too much for Watkins, except in that case they went way overboard and gave part of the farm away.

              Like I said, i thought this site was pretty good. Ranting and raving like a lunatic leaves something to be desired. I did notice that since you didn't have 200 posts you didn't use caps.

              As far reception of opinions for you and your buddy, look in the mirror.

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              T Taco918 wrote on last edited by
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              @acmikeac said:

              You think I went wrong? Because you don't agree, I still have not seen a valid explanation for going 9-8. It wasn't abbig deal but it was a give away. It's just like Buffalo giving away too much for Watkins, except in that case they went way overboard and gave part of the farm away.

              Like I said, i thought this site was pretty good. Ranting and raving like a lunatic leaves something to be desired. I did notice that since you didn't have 200 posts you didn't use caps.

              As far reception of opinions for you and your buddy, look in the mirror.

              We gave up what a 5th to make that move? Obviously they targeted Gilbert and heard other were trying to move up to get him. Would I have preferred to keep that 5th? Of course as I'm sure everyone here would but Farmer did what he thought was necessary to get his guy.

              It is what it is. You can't expect perfection.

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                @bummie said:

                This is the sentence where you went wrong. You followed with stating you liked the draft, then followed that with the word "but." Sounds like you don't know what you think, and you've made your assessment about this being a bad board after....what 1 week? Good luck with the reception of your opinions going forward.

                You think I went wrong? Because you don't agree, I still have not seen a valid explanation for going 9-8. It wasn't abbig deal but it was a give away. It's just like Buffalo giving away too much for Watkins, except in that case they went way overboard and gave part of the farm away.

                Like I said, i thought this site was pretty good. Ranting and raving like a lunatic leaves something to be desired. I did notice that since you didn't have 200 posts you didn't use caps.

                As far reception of opinions for you and your buddy, look in the mirror.

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                B Bummie wrote on last edited by
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                @acmikeac said:

                I still have not seen a valid explanation for going 9-8.

                it is because they wanted Gilbert with that pick. They didn't want Fuller or Dennard, they wanted Gilbert. He was on the board one pick before us and could vary well have been off the board when it became our turn to pick. As evidenced by this draft, when you have a guy and you want that guy, if there's a remote possibility you will lose him, and the price you pay is insignificant (possibly lose Gilbert or give up a 5th rounder), you do what you have to to get your guy. That is how we pulled in 6 quality prospects.
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                  SCDawg82S SCDawg82 wrote on last edited by
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                  With this draft, I guess the question is do you prefer two elite level CB's or two elite level WR's. My choice is the WR's. That wasn't their choice.... But now WR is just a ridiculously big need. They got to get somebody. I doubt Andre Johnson would rather be in Cleveland, but its worth a shot!.

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                    chocoC choco wrote on last edited by
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                    Sigh....

                    First off.....there's 7 rounds of the draft. We have 10 picks next year. 10-7 is 3.....3 extra picks next year. Its simple math.....much easier to figure out than the next part.

                    Detroit was calling about moving up to 8. Trading up to get your guy and thus preventing someone else doing so is a very valid explanation of why we moved up. Farmer had a target, and got him for minimal cost.

                    Additionally.....if you don't understand the concept of pushing resources into next year, just give up now. Its not tanking, its not giving up. If that's what you think, you lack the mental faculties to analyze anything. Draft picks are currency, and keeping the war chest filled to the brim while getting contributors is the game.

                    The 6 guys we took were all taken in the first 127 picks. I'm not sure why you think picking some 5-7 rounders to cut later is that important, but I guess a diamond in the rough happens every once in a while.

                    The best talent is bin the top half of the draft.....where we picked all our players. Expect something similar next year, with the late round picks being dealt for movingbip and extra 2016 picks.

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                      With this draft, I guess the question is do you prefer two elite level CB's or two elite level WR's. My choice is the WR's. That wasn't their choice.... But now WR is just a ridiculously big need. They got to get somebody. I doubt Andre Johnson would rather be in Cleveland, but its worth a shot!.

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                      chocoC choco wrote on last edited by
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                      @scdawg82 said:

                      With this draft, I guess the question is do you prefer two elite level CB's or two elite level WR's. My choice is the WR's. That wasn't their choice.... But now WR is just a ridiculously big need. They got to get somebody. I doubt Andre Johnson would rather be in Cleveland, but its worth a shot!.

                      oh crap....I forgot the draft was the last chance to pick up players.

                      We're so fucked now!!!!

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                        Sigh....

                        First off.....there's 7 rounds of the draft. We have 10 picks next year. 10-7 is 3.....3 extra picks next year. Its simple math.....much easier to figure out than the next part.

                        Detroit was calling about moving up to 8. Trading up to get your guy and thus preventing someone else doing so is a very valid explanation of why we moved up. Farmer had a target, and got him for minimal cost.

                        Additionally.....if you don't understand the concept of pushing resources into next year, just give up now. Its not tanking, its not giving up. If that's what you think, you lack the mental faculties to analyze anything. Draft picks are currency, and keeping the war chest filled to the brim while getting contributors is the game.

                        The 6 guys we took were all taken in the first 127 picks. I'm not sure why you think picking some 5-7 rounders to cut later is that important, but I guess a diamond in the rough happens every once in a while.

                        The best talent is bin the top half of the draft.....where we picked all our players. Expect something similar next year, with the late round picks being dealt for movingbip and extra 2016 picks.

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                        B Bummie wrote on last edited by
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                        @choco said:

                        Sigh....

                        First off.....there's 7 rounds of the draft. We have 10 picks next year. 10-7 is 3.....3 extra picks next year. Its simple math.....much easier to figure out than the next part.

                        Detroit was calling about moving up to 8. Trading up to get your guy and thus preventing someone else doing so is a very valid explanation of why we moved up. Farmer had a target, and got him for minimal cost.

                        Additionally.....if you don't understand the concept of pushing resources into next year, just give up now. Its not tanking, its not giving up. If that's what you think, you lack the mental faculties to analyze anything. Draft picks are currency, and keeping the war chest filled to the brim while getting contributors is the game.

                        The 6 guys we took were all taken in the first 127 picks. I'm not sure why you think picking some 5-7 rounders to cut later is that important, but I guess a diamond in the rough happens every once in a while.

                        The best talent is bin the top half of the draft.....where we picked all our players. Expect something similar next year, with the late round picks being dealt for movingbip and extra 2016 picks.

                        Very well said
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                          @scdawg82 said:

                          With this draft, I guess the question is do you prefer two elite level CB's or two elite level WR's. My choice is the WR's. That wasn't their choice.... But now WR is just a ridiculously big need. They got to get somebody. I doubt Andre Johnson would rather be in Cleveland, but its worth a shot!.

                          oh crap....I forgot the draft was the last chance to pick up players.

                          We're so fucked now!!!!

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                          SCDawg82S SCDawg82 wrote on last edited by
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                          @choco said:

                          oh crap....I forgot the draft was the last chance to pick up players.

                          We're so fucked now!!!!

                          Well.... our #1 WR is a #3 pretty much everywhere else. Perhaps not as dramatic as you sound. But that is a problem, unless your running the triple option.

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                            Flyin JF Flyin J wrote on last edited by
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                            Maybe hes upset they didnt draft Manziel

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                              chocoC choco wrote on last edited by
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                              Is it that hard to understand?

                              You do realize we don't have a game until September....right?

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                                Is it that hard to understand?

                                You do realize we don't have a game until September....right?

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                                SCDawg82S SCDawg82 wrote on last edited by
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                                @choco said:

                                Is it that hard to understand?

                                You do realize we don't have a game until September..

                                Yes....................?

                                People are just discussing possibilities. I don't get the problem?

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                                  BTW, I guess after 200 posts you can yell by using caps and cussing people out.

                                  Up to now I thought this was a good site.

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                                  MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                                  @acmikeac said:

                                  BTW, I guess after 200 posts you can yell by using caps and cussing people out.

                                  Up to now I thought this was a good site.

                                  It's not

                                  Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                                    miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
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                                    ^ha!

                                    johnson is just butthurt the texans didn't draft one of the top 3 QBs and instead went with clowney at 1. i'm sure he'll calm the F down when they start talking money.

                                    fucking diva players if they don't get their way.

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                                      @scdawg82 said:

                                      With this draft, I guess the question is do you prefer two elite level CB's or two elite level WR's. My choice is the WR's. That wasn't their choice.... But now WR is just a ridiculously big need. They got to get somebody. I doubt Andre Johnson would rather be in Cleveland, but its worth a shot!.

                                      oh crap....I forgot the draft was the last chance to pick up players.

                                      We're so fucked now!!!!

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                                      hx214H hx214 wrote on last edited by hx214
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                                      @choco said:

                                      oh crap....I forgot the draft was the last chance to pick up players.

                                      We're so fucked now!!!!

                                      This. I still can't figure out why the media was so, "I can't believe they didn't draft a WR!!!" who is Johnny gonna throw to???

                                      Then the next breath say how most first year WR struggle and blah blah blah.

                                      There are free agents out there right now that have played in the league and will be better right from the get go then some 4th round or later WR from from backwater school. and a 4th round WR is not going to come in and play like a #1 wide out in the NFL

                                      You rent 1 or 2 free agents for a year, Let Puffy serve his suspension and draft or sign a top free agent next year.

                                      Like it or not, the team was in need of so many different things that it couldn't all be fixed with one draft, and the worst thing that could have happend was for them to take some guy they really didn't look at all off season, because they found out two weeks before the draft Gordon was out, then try to analyze someone in the two weeks before the draft and swing and miss on a wide out in the second round and end up with another Greg Little...

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                                        @choco said:

                                        oh crap....I forgot the draft was the last chance to pick up players.

                                        We're so fucked now!!!!

                                        This. I still can't figure out why the media was so, "I can't believe they didn't draft a WR!!!" who is Johnny gonna throw to???

                                        Then the next breath say how most first year WR struggle and blah blah blah.

                                        There are free agents out there right now that have played in the league and will be better right from the get go then some 4th round or later WR from from backwater school. and a 4th round WR is not going to come in and play like a #1 wide out in the NFL

                                        You rent 1 or 2 free agents for a year, Let Puffy serve his suspension and draft or sign a top free agent next year.

                                        Like it or not, the team was in need of so many different things that it couldn't all be fixed with one draft, and the worst thing that could have happend was for them to take some guy they really didn't look at all off season, because they found out two weeks before the draft Gordon was out, then try to analyze someone in the two weeks before the draft and swing and miss on a wide out in the second round and end up with another Greg Little...

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                                        @hx214 said:

                                        Let Puffy serve his suspension

                                        I actually lol'd

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                                          the guy wants to be on a winner and, currently, the browns are not that.

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                                          @sig570 said:

                                          the guy wants to be on a winner and, currently, the browns are not that.

                                          This ^... if he were to leave Houston, which is doubtful, it would be for an established contender.

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