OFFICIAL 2014 UDFA Thread
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Cleveland Browns -- RB Isaiah Crowell, Alabama StateWhile I also think fellow undrafted players WR Chandler Jones, WR Willie Snead and QB Connor Shaw have excellent shots to make the roster, Crowell is the most talented of the group and arguably the most gifted of all the running backs in the 2014 class. Strong off field red flags left him undrafted, but if he stays motivated and clean, look out for the Cleveland backfield.
Cleveland Browns -- RB Isaiah Crowell, Alabama StateWhile I also think fellow undrafted players WR Chandler Jones, WR Willie Snead and QB Connor Shaw have excellent shots to make the roster, Crowell is the most talented of the group and arguably the most gifted of all the running backs in the 2014 class. Strong off field red flags left him undrafted, but if he stays motivated and clean, look out for the Cleveland backfield.Crowell is a serious talent. I agree. There's some good film included in this report.
And I think Chandler Jones will contribute as a rookie. We did a very good job with the UDFAs.
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Except Shaw would be snatched up within hours of being cut, so that reasoning is flawed.
Shaw is too valuable to cut, but too disposable to matter. He's a guy they'd try to sneak on the practice squad, but wouldn't clear waivers.
Ideally, Shaw comes up with an "Injury" and we can shelve him for a season at the end of camp.
I think we are going to get Thiggy with it for the 3rd QB spot for a year just because he has experience, and if Hoyer goes down again, we have none of that.
Of course ... we are not talking about a ton of experience here ... Our four QBs have started a grand total of five games since 2009 (Hoyer 4, Thiggy 1).
But the Thigster did have an 11 game run as the starter with KC in 2008 ... he went 1-10.
Zombo
Zombo said:
Ideally, Shaw comes up with an "Injury" and we can shelve him for a season at the end of camp.
I think we are going to get Thiggy with it for the 3rd QB spot for a year just because he has experience, and if Hoyer goes down again, we have none of that.
Of course ... we are not talking about a ton of experience here ... Our four QBs have started a grand total of five games since 2009 (Hoyer 4, Thiggy 1).
But the Thigster did have an 11 game run as the starter with KC in 2008 ... he went 1-10.
Zombo
I watched every game of that season, two of them in person.
The Thig has the talent to start in the NFL. He's never had an overly talented team to work with. He still threw Dwayne Bowe to a 1,000+ yard season, as well as Brandon Marshall.
He's a mobile quarterback who excels outside of the pocket. That is Shanahan's system. If he had a fit, it would be Cleveland.
We're not going into the season with a two rookies and another QB with only 4 starts to his career.
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Crowell's video package is pretty impressive. Awesome burst and quickness and runs tough. Hopefully he stays away from Gordon's pot parties.
Crowell's video package is pretty impressive. Awesome burst and quickness and runs tough. Hopefully he stays away from Gordon's pot parties.
Some guys with a past turn it around & some don't, but with this kid's talent & the fact he's a bargain as a UDFA, why not see what he can do? IMHO he's a fantastic pick up & the price is right.
Mike
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Unless he practices really bad I don't see that happening. Like I said, they keep shaw all offseason and preseason so he can learn the offense, cut him when they need to trim it to 53, and then if Hoyer or Manziel go down, they resign him. I don't think Shaw has any chance of seeing playing time this year, but at the same time I don't think they are going to risk putting him on the PS unless he doesn't do well during the preseason.
Except Shaw would be snatched up within hours of being cut, so that reasoning is flawed.
Shaw is too valuable to cut, but too disposable to matter. He's a guy they'd try to sneak on the practice squad, but wouldn't clear waivers.
Except Shaw would be snatched up within hours of being cut, so that reasoning is flawed.
Shaw is too valuable to cut, but too disposable to matter. He's a guy they'd try to sneak on the practice squad, but wouldn't clear waivers.
I ment to say Thig not Shaw in my previous comment.
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Except Shaw would be snatched up within hours of being cut, so that reasoning is flawed.
Shaw is too valuable to cut, but too disposable to matter. He's a guy they'd try to sneak on the practice squad, but wouldn't clear waivers.
I ment to say Thig not Shaw in my previous comment.
I ment to say Thig not Shaw in my previous comment.
Oh. Well that makes sense, then.
I agree.
This is a good problem to have.
A bunch of able bodied quarterbacks with winning experience that fit the offensive system? I don't know if I've ever seen this before.
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Browns just signed UDFA Elhadji Ndiaye DE. Some super freak athletic dude playing Div II. 6'5 255 pounds and ran a 4.48 at his pro day. Only has two years of football experience but was apparently very productive.
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Browns just signed UDFA Elhadji Ndiaye DE. Some super freak athletic dude playing Div II. 6'5 255 pounds and ran a 4.48 at his pro day. Only has two years of football experience but was apparently very productive.
Saw that today too. If there's a guy to to raw ability on D and make him a solid player, it's Pettine. He's in good hands, glad to have him.Browns just signed UDFA Elhadji Ndiaye DE. Some super freak athletic dude playing Div II. 6'5 255 pounds and ran a 4.48 at his pro day. Only has two years of football experience but was apparently very productive.
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Our Supposed Best Undrafted WR
Here he is. I guess he broke all records at Ball State and "all he did was make plays."
Willie Snead
Our Supposed Best Undrafted WR
Here he is. I guess he broke all records at Ball State and "all he did was make plays."
Willie Snead
Saw this today (some spreadsheets too that I haven't gone through yet) - WR Metrics :
http://www.allprofootballsource.com/2014-nfl-draft-prospects-watch-list/
WR
Jarvis Landry: 92.5
Games watched in 2013: Texas A&M
Brandon Coleman: 89.5
Games watched in 2013: Fresno State, Louisville
Marquise Lee: 89.25
Games watched in 2013: Arizona State, UCLA
Sammy Watkins: 89
Games watched in 2013: Georgia, NC State
Brandin Cooks: 89
Games watched in 2013: Cal, Oregon State
Willie Snead: 88.5
Games watched in 2013: Central Michigan
Justin Hardy: 88.5
Games watched in 2013: Southern Mississippi
Mike Evans: 88
Games watched in 2013: Alabama, Arkansas
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In his ability to catch the ball in traffic, and instincts... he reminds me
of my favorite sleeper wr in the draft, Abbredaris. Maybe Snead ran the 40 time faster for the
Browns than he ran at the combine. Or maybe, he isn't a track guy,...
The one player I regret the Browns not getting is Abbredaris. We'll see how he works out for the Packers.
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In his ability to catch the ball in traffic, and instincts... he reminds me
of my favorite sleeper wr in the draft, Abbredaris. Maybe Snead ran the 40 time faster for the
Browns than he ran at the combine. Or maybe, he isn't a track guy,...
The one player I regret the Browns not getting is Abbredaris. We'll see how he works out for the Packers.
In his ability to catch the ball in traffic, and instincts... he reminds me
of my favorite sleeper wr in the draft, Abbredaris. Maybe Snead ran the 40 time faster for the
Browns than he ran at the combine. Or maybe, he isn't a track guy,...
The one player I regret the Browns not getting is Abbredaris. We'll see how he works out for the Packers.
He did. I think he ran a 4.5 or just above at his pro day. 4.6 was his combine number.
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Browns just signed UDFA Elhadji Ndiaye DE. Some super freak athletic dude playing Div II. 6'5 255 pounds and ran a 4.48 at his pro day. Only has two years of football experience but was apparently very productive.
Browns just signed UDFA Elhadji Ndiaye DE. Some super freak athletic dude playing Div II. 6'5 255 pounds and ran a 4.48 at his pro day. Only has two years of football experience but was apparently very productive.
Athletic as hell, but watch his highlights....almost every tackle is an arm tackle. He definitely is a project.
Mike
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Browns just signed UDFA Elhadji Ndiaye DE. Some super freak athletic dude playing Div II. 6'5 255 pounds and ran a 4.48 at his pro day. Only has two years of football experience but was apparently very productive.
Athletic as hell, but watch his highlights....almost every tackle is an arm tackle. He definitely is a project.
Mike
Athletic as hell, but watch his highlights....almost every tackle is an arm tackle. He definitely is a project.
Mike
I noticed that when I watched it last night. Plus he plays high. However I think those are the two easier things to teach. But still a big project.
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Athletic as hell, but watch his highlights....almost every tackle is an arm tackle. He definitely is a project.
Mike
I noticed that when I watched it last night. Plus he plays high. However I think those are the two easier things to teach. But still a big project.
I noticed that when I watched it last night. Plus he plays high. However I think those are the two easier things to teach. But still a big project.
I'll say this. That kid has some LOOOONG arms! LOL
Mike
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