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  • WPB Dawg Fan W
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    W WPB Dawg Fan wrote on last edited by WPB Dawg Fan
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    This will help with some of our discussions I think....

    NFL Draft: Value chart

    By Wes Bunting, National Football Post Feb 2, 1:11 pm EST

    One word that is thrown around more than any other on draft day has to be “value.” NFL draft boards are put together to help determine not only the ranking of a prospect, but also how many prospects are worthy of being selected in each of the seven rounds. So when NFL teams discuss value they are not necessarily talking about the top 32 players on their board, but instead, they are breaking down the prospects into different tiers, which helps them determine just how many players are worthy of a first round grade. The following is The National Football Post’s first value chart for the 2009 NFL Draft.

    Tier 1 (Elite Prospects)

    Michael Crabtree: WR, Texas Tech

    Aaron Curry: OLB, Wake Forest

    Eugene Monroe: OT, Virginia

    B.J. Raji: DT, Boston College

    Malcolm Jenkins: CB, Ohio State

    Tier 2 (High First-Round Caliber)

    Andre Smith: OT, Alabama

    Jason Smith: OT, Baylor

    Mark Sanchez: QB, USC

    Brian Orakpo: DE/OLB, Texas

    Matthew Stafford: QB, Georgia

    Everette Brown: Florida State

    Michael Oher: OT, Ole Miss

    Knowshon Moreno: RB, Georgia

    Tier 3 (First-Round Caliber)

    Peria Jerry: DT, Ole Miss

    D.J. Moore: CB, Vanderbilt

    Chris Wells: RB Ohio State

    Brian Cushing: OLB, USC

    LeSean McCoy: RB, Pittsburgh

    Jeremy Maclin: WR, Missouri

    Brandon Pettigrew: TE, Oklahoma State

    Rey Maualuga: ILB, USC

    Percy Harvin: RB/WR, Florida

    Alphonso Smith: CB, Wake Forest

    Aaron Maybin: OLB/DE, Penn State

    Clay Matthews: OLB, USC

    Robert Ayers: DE, Tennessee

    Tier 4 (Late First-Round/Early Second-Round Caliber)

    James Laurinaitis: ILB, Ohio State

    Vontae Davis: CB, Illinois

    Eben Britton: OT, Arizona

    William Beatty: OT, Connecticut

    Darrius Heyward-Bey: WR, Maryland

    Sean Smith: CB/FS, Utah

    Hakeem Nicks: WR, North Carolina

    Michael Johnson: DE/OLB, Georgia Tech

    Josh Freeman: QB, Kansas State

    Coye Francies: CB, San Jose State

    Sen’Derrick Marks: DT, Auburn

    Louis Delmas: FS, Western Michigan

    Tier 5 (Second-Round Caliber)

    Larry English: OLB/DE, Northern Illinois

    Tyson Jackson: DE, LSU

    Alex Mack: C, California

    Shonn Greene: RB, Iowa

    Max Unger: C. Oregon

    Clint Sintim: OLB, Virginia

    Derrick Williams: WR, Penn State

    Chase Coffman: TE, Missouri

    Kenny Britt: WR, Rutgers

    Duke Robinson: OG, Oklahoma

    James Casey: TE, Rice

    Juaquin Iglesias: WR, Oklahoma

    Eric Wood: C, Louisville

    Jarron Gilbert: DT, San Jose State

    David Veikune: DE, Hawaii

    Shawn Nelson: TE, Southern Miss

    Tyronne Green: OG, Auburn

    Tier 6 (Second/Third-Round Caliber)

    Darius Butler: CB, Connecticut

    Brian Robiskie: WR, Ohio State

    Patrick Chung: SS, Oregon

    Paul Kruger: DE/OLB, Utah

    Jairus Byrd: CB, Oregon

    Donald Brown: RB, Connecticut

    Herman Johnson: OG, LSU

    Evander Hood: DT, Missouri

    Javon Ringer: RB, Michigan State

    Pat White: QB, West Virginia

    Connor Barwin: DE/TE, Cincinnati

    Jonathan Luigs: C, Arkansas

    Jared Cook: TE, South Carolina

    Darry Beckwith: ILB, LSU

    Mike Mickens: CB, Cincinnati

    Fili Moala: DT, USC

    Asher Allen: CB, Georgia

    Chip Vaughn: SS, Wake Forest

    Nate Davis: QB, Ball State

    Tier 7 (Third-Round Caliber)

    Jamon Meredith: OT, South Carolina

    Victor Harris: CB, Virginia Tech

    Mitch King: DT, Iowa

    Tyrone McKenzie: OLB, South Florida

    Ron Brace: DT, Boston College

    Troy Kropog: OT, Tulane

    Derek Pegues: FS, Mississippi State

    Marcus Freeman: OLB, Ohio State

    Antoine Caldwell: C, Alabama

    Fenuki Tupou: OT, Oregon

    Jeremiah Johnson: RB, Oregon

    Trevor Canfield: OG, Cincinnati

    Rashad Johnson: FS, Alabama

    Augustus Parrish: OT, Kent State

    Vance Walker: DT, Georgia Tech

    Tier 8 (Third/Fourth-Round Caliber)

    William Moore: FS, Missouri

    Louis Murphy: WR, Florida

    Domonique Johnson: CB, Jackson State

    Cody Brown: DE/OLB, Connecticut

    Jarett Dillard: WR, Rice

    Scott McKillop: MLB, Pittsburgh Cary Harris: CB, USC

    Andre Brown: RB, N.C. State

    Zack Follett: OLB, California

    Ricky Jean-Francois: DT, LSU

    Sherrod Martin: FS, Troy

    Corvey Irvin: DT, Georgia

    Tier 9 (Fourth-Round Caliber)

    Rashad Jennings: RB, Liberty

    Phil Loadholt: OT, Oklahoma

    Kraig Urbik: OG, Wisconsin

    Michael Hamlin: SS, Clemson

    Captain Munnerlyn: CB, South Carolina

    Alex Magee: DT, Purdue

    Rhett Bomar: QB, Sam Houston

    Louie Sakoda: K, Utah

    Emanuel Cook: SS, South Carolina

    Travis Beckum: TE, Wisconsin

    David Bruton: FS, Notre Dame

    James Davis: RB, Clemson

    Tier 10 (Impact Late-Round Prospects)

    Mike Thomas: WR, Arizona

    A.Q. Shipley: C, Penn State

    Cedric Peerman: RB, Virginia

    Jason Watkins: OT, Florida

    Kyle Moore: DE, USC

    Michael Bennett: DE, Texas A&M

    Clinton McDonald: DT, Memphis

    Mortty Ivy: OLB, West Virginia

    Joseph Frantz: ILB, Florida Atlantic

    Stephen Hodge: SS, TCU

    Thomas Morstead: P, Southern Methodist

    Graham Gano: K, Florida State

    Kenny McKinley: WR, South Carolina

    Graham Harrell: QB, Texas Tech The National Football Post (www.nationalfootballpost.com) is a unique and premiere online source of quality and credible news, information and insight about all sides of football featuring professionals with experience in all facets of the NFL.

    As Curry is rated as ELITE at a position of need, he seems like the logical choice. I am starting to think that we may consider letting Jones walk and take Jenkins to play S as well. Raji and Monroe really don't make a lot of sense for us...but Crabtree may be an interesting proposition...if only as a pick and trade.

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      Here is their position by position ranking:

      NFL Draft: Rankings by position

      By Wes Bunting, National Football Post Jan 29, 10:53 pm EST

      As NFL officials make their way back to their draft boards following the Senior Bowl, position rankings now become critically important. In order for teams to put together the most precise big board, accuracy in position rankings is paramount. This process is not only considered one of the most significant aspects of the draft process, it’s also one of the most frequently updated.

      Quarterbacks

      1. Mark Sanchez, USC (6-3, 225)

      2. Matthew Stafford, Georgia (6-3, 236)

      3. Josh Freeman, Kansas State (6-6, 248)

      4. Pat White, West Virginia (6-0, 192)

      5. Nate Davis, Ball State (6-2, 218)

      6. Graham Harrell, Texas Tech (6-2, 205)

      7. Rhett Bomar, Sam Houston State (6-2, 216)

      8. Nathan Brown, Central Arkansas (6-1, 214)

      9. Stephen McGee, Texas A&M (6-3, 216)

      10. Cullen Harper, Clemson (6-3, 220)

      Running Backs

      1. Knowshon Moreno, Georgia (5-11, 208)

      2. Chris Wells, Ohio State (6-1, 237)

      3. LeSean McCoy, Pittsburgh (5-11, 210)

      4. Shonn Greene, Iowa (5-11, 235)

      5. Donald Brown, Connecticut (5-10, 210)

      6. Javon Ringer, Michigan State (5-9, 205)

      7. Jeremiah Johnson, Oregon (5-9, 208)

      8. Andre Brown, N.C. State (6-0 224)

      9. Rashad Jennings, Liberty (6-1, 232)

      10. Cedric Peerman, Virginia (5-10, 210)

      Fullbacks

      1. Quinn Johnson, LSU (6-1, 260)

      2. Brannan Southerland, Georgia (6-0, 245)

      3. Tony Fiammetta, Syracuse (6-0, 238)

      4. Mark Hafner, Houston (6-2, 235)

      5. Travis McCall, Alabama (6-2, 276)

      6. Conredge Collins, Pittsburgh (5-11, 232)

      7. Eric Kettani, Navy (6-0, 242)

      8. Marquez Branson, Central Arkansas (6-2, 248)

      9. David Johnson, Arkansas State (6-2, 250)

      10. Jorvorskie Lane, Texas A&M (6-0, 278)

      Wide Receivers

      1. Michael Crabtree, Texas Tech (6-3. 214)

      2. Jeremy Maclin, Missouri (6-1, 200)

      3. Hakeem Nicks, North Carolina (6-1, 210)

      4. Darrius Heyward-Bey, Maryland (6-2, 206)

      5. Juaquin Iglesias, Oklahoma (6-0 204)

      6. Derrick Williams, Penn State (6-0, 200)

      7. Kenny Britt, Rutgers (6-4, 215)

      8. Brian Robiskie, Ohio State (6-2, 200)

      9. Mike Thomas, Arizona (5-8 187)

      10. Kenny McKinley, South Carolina (6-0, 182)

      Tight Ends

      1. Brandon Pettigrew, Oklahoma State (6-6, 260)

      2. Shawn Nelson, Southern Mississippi (6-5, 242)

      3. Chase Coffman, Missouri (6-6, 252)

      4. Connor Barwin, Cincinnati (6-4, 253)

      5. James Casey, Rice (6-4, 235)

      6. Jared Cook, South Carolina (6-5, 242)

      7. Travis Beckum, Wisconsin (6-3, 237)

      8. Cornelius Ingram, Florida (6-4, 245)

      9. Brian Mandeville, Northeastern (6-6, 255)

      10. Davon Drew, East Carolina (6-4, 258)

      Offensive Tackles

      1. Eugene Monroe, Virginia (6-5, 315)

      2. Andre Smith, Alabama (6-4, 340)

      3. Michael Oher, Mississippi (6-5, 320)

      4. Jason Smith, Baylor (6-5, 300)

      5. William Beatty, Connecticut (6-6, 310)

      6. Eben Britton, Arizona (6-6, 310)

      7. Jamon Meredith, South Carolina (6-5, 289)

      8. Fenuki Tupou, Oregon (6-5, 332)

      9. Jason Watkins, Florida (6-6, 317)

      10. Augustus Parrish, Kent State (6-4, 297)

      Offensive Guards

      1. Duke Robinson, Oklahoma (6-5, 335)

      2. Herman Johnson, LSU (6-7, 335)

      3. Tyronne Green, Auburn (6-2, 309)

      4. Andy Levitre, Oregon State (6-2, 318)

      5. Trevor Canfield, Cincinnati (6-5, 305)

      6. Jamie Thomas, Maryland (6-4, 331)

      7. Maurice Miller, Ole Miss (6-3, 243)

      8. Seth Olsen, Iowa (6-5, 304)

      9. Kraig Urbik, Wisconsin (6-6, 323)

      10. Anthony Parker, Tennessee (6-2, 305)

      Centers

      1. Alex Mack, California (6-4, 314)

      2. Max Unger, Oregon (6-5, 305)

      3. Eric Wood, Louisville (6-5, 308)

      4. Antoine Caldwell, Alabama (6-5, 305)

      5. Jonathan Luigs, Arkansas (6-5, 314)

      6. A.Q. Shipley, Penn State (6-1, 297)

      7. Cecil Newton, Tennessee State (6-2, 295)

      8. Alex Fletcher, Stanford (6-3, 302)

      9. Jon Cooper, Oklahoma (6-2, 292)

      10. Ryan McDonald, Illinois (6-4, 298)

      Defensive Ends

      1. Brian Orakpo, Texas (6-4, 260)

      2. Everette Brown, Florida State (6-4, 252)

      3. Aaron Maybin, Penn State (6-4, 242)

      4. Robert Ayers, Tennessee (6-3, 273)

      5. Michael Johnson, Georgia Tech (6-7, 260)

      6. Tyson Jackson, LSU (6-4, 295)

      7. Paul Kruger, Utah (6-5, 265)

      8. Larry English, Northern Illinois (6-2, 254)

      9. Connor Barwin, Cincinnati (6-4, 255)

      10. David Veikune, Hawaii (6-2, 255)

      Defensive Tackles

      1. B.J. Raji, Boston College (6-1, 325)

      2. Peria Jerry, Mississippi (6-3, 295)

      3. Sen’Derrick Marks, Auburn (6-1, 295)

      4. Jarron Gilbert, San Jose State (6-5, 287)

      5. Fili Moala, Southern Cal (6-5, 298)

      6. Evander Hood, Missouri (6-3, 295)

      7. Mitch King, Iowa (6-2, 275)

      8. Corvey Irvin, Georgia (6-3, 289)

      9. Ron Brace, Boston College (6-3, 326)

      10. Alex Magee, Purdue (6-3, 295)

      Outside Linebackers

      1. Aaron Curry, Wake Forest (6-2, 246)

      2. Brian Cushing, Southern California (6-4, 243)

      3. Clay Matthews, Southern California (6-4, 246)

      4. Clint Sintim, Virginia (6-3, 254)

      5. Tyrone McKenzie, South Florida (6-2, 235)

      6. Zack Follett, California (6-2, 238)

      7. Marcus Freeman, Ohio State (6-1, 238)

      8. Cody Brown, Connecticut (6-2, 248)

      9. Mortty Ivy, West Virginia (6-1, 236)

      10. Nic Harris, Oklahoma (6-3, 233)

      Inside Linebackers

      1. Rey Maualuga, Southern California (6-2, 260)

      2. James Laurinaitis, Ohio State (6-2, 240)

      3. Darry Beckwith, LSU (6-1, 235)

      4. Scott McKillop, Pittsburgh (6-1, 240)

      5. Gerald McRath, Southern Miss (6-3, 220)

      6. Jason Phillips, TCU (6-1, 235)

      7. Worrell Williams, Cailfornia (6-0, 250)

      8. Dannell Ellerbe, Georgia (6-1, 236)

      9. Jasper Brinkley, South Carolina (6-2, 265)

      10. Joseph Frantz, Florida Atlantic (6-2, 235)

      Cornerbacks

      1. Malcolm Jenkins, Ohio State (6-0, 200)

      2. D.J. Moore, Vanderbilt (5-10, 184)

      3. Alphonso Smith, Wake Forest (5-9. 190)

      4. Coye Francies, San Jose State (6-0 179)

      5. Vontae Davis, Illinois (6-0, 205)

      6. Sean Smith, Utah (6-3, 215)

      7. Darius Butler, Connecticut (5-11, 187)

      8. Mike Mickens, Cincinnati: (5-11, 176)

      9. Asher Allen, Georgia (5-10, 198)

      10. Victor Harris, Virginia Tech (5-11, 195)

      Free Safeties

      1. Louis Delmas, Western Michigan (6-0, 196)

      2. Derek Pegues, Mississippi State (5-10, 195)

      3. William Moore, Missouri (6-1, 226)

      4. Rashad Johnson, Alabama (6-0, 190)

      5. Sherrod Martin, Troy ( 6-1, 193)

      6. Brandon Underwood, Cincinnati (6-1, 192)

      7. David Bruton, Notre Dame (6-2, 210)

      8. Troy Nolan, Arizona State (6-1, 207)

      9. Darcel McBath, Texas Tech (6-1, 198)

      10. Curtis Taylor, LSU (6-2, 208)

      Strong Safeties

      1. Patrick Chung, Oregon (5-11, 210)

      2. Chip Vaughn, Wake Forest (6-2, 214)

      3. Kevin Ellison, Southern California (6-1, 228)

      4. Emanuel Cook, South Carolina (5-10, 205)

      5. Michael Hamlin, Clemson (6-3, 206)

      6. Stephen Hodge, TCU (6-0 214)

      7. Trimane Goddard, North Carolina (5-11, 195)

      8. Courtney Greene, Rutgers: (6-1, 211)

      9. Otis Wiley, Michigan State (6-2, 210)

      10. Jamarca Sanford, Mississippi (5-10, 200)

      Specialists

      1. Louie Sakoda, Utah (5-9, 171), kicker/punter

      2. Graham Gano, Florida State (6-1, 192), kicker/punter

      3. Thomas Morstead, Southern Methodist (6-4, 228), punter

      4. Kevin Huber, Cincinnati (6-1, 224), punter

      5. Jake Ingram, Hawaii (6-3 235), long snapper

      6. Jose Martinez, UTEP (5-9, 200), kicker

      7. Pat McAfee, West Virginia (6-0 228), kicker

      8. Mark Estermyer, Pittsburgh (6-1, 247), long snapper

      9. Ryan Succop, South Carolina (6-2, 224), kicker

      10. Sam Swank, Wake Forest (6-0 202), kicker

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        And finally, their mock draft:

        National Football Post 2 Round Mock Draft

        5. Cleveland Browns: Malcolm Jenkins, CB, Ohio State

        The Browns need to add a pass rusher at some point in the draft, but at this stage I don’t feel there’s a guy who warrants the fifth overall pick. Jenkins will come in and instantly improve the Browns’ secondary. OLB Aaron Curry has gotten a lot of attention here, but I feel his skill set would be underutilized in a 3-4 defense.

        Personally I don't agree on their assessment of Curry...but that is Alo's fault!!!

        37. Cleveland Browns: Tyson Jackson, DE, LSU

        Jackson is the type of 5-technique defensive end the Browns were lacking last season.

        I think getting either Jenkins or Curry in 1..and Tyson Jackson in round 2 would have to be considered a pretty darn good draft for us.

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          i still say having three inexperienced cbs is risky. also im just not sold on jenkins. i know he is a good kid that does very well in class, but he wasn't tested that much in the season. however his speed is electric and i think will eventually be a pretty good cb in the pros. however, we need someone who will make a difference now. cbs take too long to get acclimated to the nfl.

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            I'm surprised ADVERTISEMENT was only tier 3. I thought it would be at least 2.

            And I agree on the 'we don't need another young cornerback when we have so many other areas of need' plan.

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              i still say having three inexperienced cbs is risky. also im just not sold on jenkins. i know he is a good kid that does very well in class, but he wasn't tested that much in the season. however his speed is electric and i think will eventually be a pretty good cb in the pros. however, we need someone who will make a difference now. cbs take too long to get acclimated to the nfl.

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              @clevelandfanforlife said:

              i still say having three inexperienced cbs is risky. also im just not sold on jenkins. i know he is a good kid that does very well in class, but he wasn't tested that much in the season. however his speed is electric and i think will eventually be a pretty good cb in the pros. however, we need someone who will make a difference now. cbs take too long to get acclimated to the nfl.

              I honestly think that Jenkins may end up being a safety. He has the size for it...and with his speed he could be an impact player at that position. His versatility to play BOTH safety and corner is why I am thinking he may be a good pickup.

              I think Alo has also mentioned that Jenkins may project well at S...and if we lose Jones...we are going to need a top notch safety from somewhere...as Adams is the next guy on our depth chart. He is a nice player...but I would hate to think of him as our #1 S.

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                I'm surprised ADVERTISEMENT was only tier 3. I thought it would be at least 2.

                And I agree on the 'we don't need another young cornerback when we have so many other areas of need' plan.

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                @nicksilvy said:

                I'm surprised ADVERTISEMENT was only tier 3. I thought it would be at least 2.

                And I agree on the 'we don't need another young cornerback when we have so many other areas of need' plan.

                thanks...I have since removed ADVERTISEMENT

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                  I'm not much of a draft guy, so I'll ask some of the gurus on here...

                  if Beanie or Moreno (or both) slip to the 20s....is there a chance the Browns trade up for them? A Curry/Wells draft would be incredible to me.

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                    I do think Curry would be under utilized in a 3-4....he has great movement....put him as a run and chase backer in a 4-3 and he will be all over the place.

                    In a 3-4 you aren't going to see all of his skills.

                    JMO

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                      I don't feel we have the picks to trade away to get high enough to take Beanie (barring a DA trade for way more then I feel he's valued at) when we could have Greene in the 2nd.

                      and I'm sad ADVERTISEMENT withdrew from the draft, I was hoping the Vikings would take it.

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                        @clevelandfanforlife said:

                        i still say having three inexperienced cbs is risky. also im just not sold on jenkins. i know he is a good kid that does very well in class, but he wasn't tested that much in the season. however his speed is electric and i think will eventually be a pretty good cb in the pros. however, we need someone who will make a difference now. cbs take too long to get acclimated to the nfl.

                        I honestly think that Jenkins may end up being a safety. He has the size for it...and with his speed he could be an impact player at that position. His versatility to play BOTH safety and corner is why I am thinking he may be a good pickup.

                        I think Alo has also mentioned that Jenkins may project well at S...and if we lose Jones...we are going to need a top notch safety from somewhere...as Adams is the next guy on our depth chart. He is a nice player...but I would hate to think of him as our #1 S.

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                        I honestly think that Jenkins may end up being a safety. He has the size for it...and with his speed he could be an impact player at that position. His versatility to play BOTH safety and corner is why I am thinking he may be a good pickup.

                        I think Alo has also mentioned that Jenkins may project well at S...and if we lose Jones...we are going to need a top notch safety from somewhere...as Adams is the next guy on our depth chart. He is a nice player...but I would hate to think of him as our #1 S.

                        jenkins' versatility in coverage would open up a ton of defensive possibilities if the coaching staff's willing to make use of them. with a safety who can cover as well as jenkins can, there's less need to sub in your nickel package which lets you keep your base D in more or shift to something exotic like a 2-5-4 to really confuse the offense. as a defensive guy, that kind of flexibility would be very tempting. it almost makes me want jenkins.

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                          Since the Browns will be playing a cover two zone most of the time, Jenkins would be a waste at #5 even if they project him as a safety. There are great safety and CB prospects through round 3, which makes getting additional picks a priority.

                          Brown's can't pass on Curry. He is the perfect fit next to Jackson. Then again, can you pass up a talent like Crabtree. This is a stronger, faster Edwards that can make all the catches. I think other teams just might want to trade up to grab him, so we would have a tough decision.

                          Sorry, but Mangini would take a offensive lineman before a corner at #5. He mentioned "musts" and "needs" yesterday in his press conference. I believe ILB is in that "must" catagory. He has stressed on more then one occasion that stopping the run is his number one priority on defense. So, I say ILB and SS are musts. Pass rusher, OL and CB are needs.

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                            Brown's can't pass on Curry. He is the perfect fit next to Jackson.

                            No doubt he is good....but he is a OLB....he is a great cover backer...teams aren't going to bury him in the middle if they want to get the best out of the guy.

                            He is a 4-3 SOLB.

                            The more this goes, I see Everett Brown as the selection, taking Wimps spot and sending Wimp over to the other side to compete with Peek and whoever else for the other OLB starting position.

                            We will live with Jackson and beau or whoever else in the middle.

                            That or we won't go backer at all and take Jenkins....you can't go wrong selecting a Champ Bailey type player.

                            If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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                              It would be nice to trade DA to Detroit for their 20th pick that they got from Dallas so we could get a couple of stud defensive players.

                              wishful thinking.

                              Head or Gut?
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                                wishful thinking.

                                Indeed.....

                                Maybe DA and our 2nd for this pick and their 4th.

                                If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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                                  Just hoping that Shonn Greene lands in our hands in the second round....

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                                    Scouts and Curry himself have both said his best attribute is his ability to shed blocks. That is a perfect fit next to DQ, who is a chaser.

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                                      Scouts and Curry himself have both said his best attribute is his ability to shed blocks. That is a perfect fit next to DQ, who is a chaser.

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                                      @d-qwimbley said:

                                      Scouts and Curry himself have both said his best attribute is his ability to shed blocks. That is a perfect fit next to DQ, who is a chaser.

                                      Actually he is everything you want in a 3-4 SILB. He is quick, athletic, has speed, works well in traffic and uses his hands well to ge off of blocks. He also is very good as a cover LB. He drops into coverage well.

                                      Best part is that he will compliment Jackson well. He is not a pass rushing 3-4 OLB like some think he can be.

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                                        Actually he is everything you want in a 3-4 SILB. He is quick, athletic, has speed, works well in traffic and uses his hands well to ge off of blocks. He also is very good as a cover LB. He drops into coverage well.

                                        I agree!

                                        Here are some nice Curry highlights from the Florida State game:

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