Jonathan Paul Manziel
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this is the weirdest homo-centered crowd i have ever seen. fag this, cock that..is it on purpose to sound like the 12 year-old son of a truck-driver?
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@mike-h said:
Yeah, you would love it, because you'd be able to spew your nonsensical, wrong, opinions without getting called out on it.
Ignorance is bliss, fuck face.
If it is an opinion how can it be wrong?
If it is an opinion how can it be wrong?
I think Tour owes you a drink now.
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this is the weirdest homo-centered crowd i have ever seen. fag this, cock that..is it on purpose to sound like the 12 year-old son of a truck-driver?
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Loggains just needs to shut the fu** up... The last thing this team needs is a position coach adding to the Manziel / Haslam circus. The media LOVES to hear "overbearing" owner stories b/c that's the corner they're trying to paint this guy into; and they love to blow up anything related to JF. Loggains gave them both, and went 100% against what Farmer said... what a jacka**... Just coach the damn kid, and btw coach the other 3 QBs on the roster... If I'm Petine, I take him out by the woodshed and teach him a lesson... dumba**... Plus, Haslam just needs to shut his damn mouth and let Farmer do all the draft press conferences and let Pettine talk about plans for the players... he IS the coach btw...
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Haslam ordered the team to take Manziel, but why? Manziel did you a favor by WANTING to be in Cleveland, but the owner comes out and viciously attacks Manziel's character? When has Johnny ever not been a hard worker? Why is Johnny "hollywood," because the media made him that way? The ONLY way Manziel can succeed is if you are 100% behind him. There should be ZERO question about whether he'll start or not. HE chose YOU. Cleveland as a team and city have been IRRELEVANT and stars do NOT want to play here. LBJ left you. Manziel CHOSE YOU.
GET BEHIND HIM, CLEVELAND.
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Thought it was strange too.... U don't air dirty laudry in the public like that. Every interview I watch all I hear is "I'm here to work" "I'm here to learn and get better". It might be something to manage fans expectations, because it might not be best for him to start week 1. I don't know?
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Out of the top 3 QB's...............He isn't the perfect size, but he is the PERFECT attitude.
I am rooting for him, and I hope he brings more then ESPN to Cleveland.
Wins trump hype all day long
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And remember, a guy like Bridgewater stated he did NOT want to play for the Browns. Manziel stated this to the QB coach...
"I wish you guys would come get me. Hurry up and draft me because I want to be there. I want to wreck this league together."
Who is "HOLLYWOOD" in this scenario?
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Despite all the immature BS on this site the last week+, I have some real thoughts on Manziel...
I was not high on drafting him... I said I wouldn't take him before the 3rd round, but now that he's a Brown I'm 100% behind him
For those of you that are skeptics (like me), watch some of the games on YouTube, or even just the highlights... What I missed, before the draft, was Manziel's overall athletic ability. It is truly impressive. I was focused on his "jumpiness" in the pocket and his "quick to leave the pocket" tendencies. Now that I am a fan, I watch the film differently and am beginning to be able to see his athletic play working in the NFL. Even more, I see a smart QB. He seems to know when his legs can get the first down or TD, but he also knows when his arm can get it done.
I am a fan of the "conventional" QB, which is why I was high on Bortles and Carr, and not-so-much on Manziel, but I have to admit it is exciting to see a guy with his athleticism joining our team... I hope everything works out.
After re-watching ALL the games the past 2 years when he was at A&M, there is no doubt in my mind he beats out Hoyer and starts for this team Day 1. He has 100% more playmaking abilities and can be the offensive spark we need... I hope I"m not seeing it with "Manziel-tinted" glasses now that he's on our team, and I hope ALL my pre-draft analysis was "narrow-minded," "incomplete," and just overall WRONG... wouldn't be the first time...
Go Browns!!
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Oh god... what did we as Browns fans do to deserve you Manziel morons.
Please just go back to that JF Shrine in your basement, say your prayers to JF, and go to bed.
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And remember, a guy like Bridgewater stated he did NOT want to play for the Browns. Manziel stated this to the QB coach...
"I wish you guys would come get me. Hurry up and draft me because I want to be there. I want to wreck this league together."
Who is "HOLLYWOOD" in this scenario?
And remember, a guy like Bridgewater stated he did NOT want to play for the Browns. Manziel stated this to the QB coach...
"I wish you guys would come get me. Hurry up and draft me because I want to be there. I want to wreck this league together."
Who is "HOLLYWOOD" in this scenario?
Teddy is a wuss
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Oh god... what did we as Browns fans do to deserve you Manziel morons.
Please just go back to that JF Shrine in your basement, say your prayers to JF, and go to bed.
Oh god... what did we as Browns fans do to deserve you Manziel morons.
Please just go back to that JF Shrine in your basement, say your prayers to JF, and go to bed.
So you want him to fail? so you feel better?
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Oh god... what did we as Browns fans do to deserve you Manziel morons.
Please just go back to that JF Shrine in your basement, say your prayers to JF, and go to bed.
Oh god... what did we as Browns fans do to deserve you Manziel morons.
Please just go back to that JF Shrine in your basement, say your prayers to JF, and go to bed.
We got a tough guy here. Belligerent haters make me laugh.
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Oh god... what did we as Browns fans do to deserve you Manziel morons.
Please just go back to that JF Shrine in your basement, say your prayers to JF, and go to bed.
Oh god... what did we as Browns fans do to deserve you Manziel morons.
Please just go back to that JF Shrine in your basement, say your prayers to JF, and go to bed.
We as Browns fans have put up with,( since 1999) Couch, Frye, Quinn, Weeden. All supposed to be the savior of this team.
Johnny is better then ALL of them coming into the NFL.
Let's give the man a chance
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Haslam ordered the team to take Manziel, but why? Manziel did you a favor by WANTING to be in Cleveland, but the owner comes out and viciously attacks Manziel's character? When has Johnny ever not been a hard worker? Why is Johnny "hollywood," because the media made him that way? The ONLY way Manziel can succeed is if you are 100% behind him. There should be ZERO question about whether he'll start or not. HE chose YOU. Cleveland as a team and city have been IRRELEVANT and stars do NOT want to play here. LBJ left you. Manziel CHOSE YOU.
GET BEHIND HIM, CLEVELAND.
Haslam ordered the team to take Manziel, but why? Manziel did you a favor by WANTING to be in Cleveland, but the owner comes out and viciously attacks Manziel's character? When has Johnny ever not been a hard worker? Why is Johnny "hollywood," because the media made him that way? The ONLY way Manziel can succeed is if you are 100% behind him. There should be ZERO question about whether he'll start or not. HE chose YOU. Cleveland as a team and city have been IRRELEVANT and stars do NOT want to play here. LBJ left you. Manziel CHOSE YOU.
GET BEHIND HIM, CLEVELAND.
Taking pot shots at the city will really endear you to the fanbase. And how did Haslem viciously attack JM's character? By telling him to act like a backup?
Vicious stuff man.
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New Browns fan here... I graduated from Texas A&M and decided to check in on how Browns fans feel about JFF. Reading the posts, I felt I could give you some insight into him from someone who followed him since High School.
The kid is just different, he is a Texas HS legend because he put on a show every night... 75 total TDs his sr year which is a state record (think about that for a second, he was scoring 6-8 TDs a game, every game! But he was a 3 star recruit b/c everyone said he was too small and his game wouldn't fly in D1 football. Wrong. He leads the SEC in Rushing as a QB and breaks the all time SEC passing yards in a season his RS Freshman year. Then everyone said he couldn't do it again now that SEC defenses know how to stop him... Wrong again. Led the SEC in total yards, TDs, and passing yards again in year 2. Now people are saying he can't win in the NFL... All his life people have been doubting him and he just keeps proving them wrong. Just give him time and he will put on a show for you.
Evans benefitted just as much from johnny as johnny did from evans. evans is a horrible route runner btw.
JFF doesn't run as much anymore... He more so uses his legs to buy time so he can find an open man. That means he will get hit less than a usual pocket passing QB. People don't seem to understand this. Hoyer is more likely to get hurt than JFF... Like last season. Also, Johnny plays through pain... Most Aggies think he had a broken finger and separated shoulder for the last few games of the season. He is not a baby and he is EXTREMELY competitive at an elite level. Him falling in the draft was the best thing for him b/c it will fuel him. His teammates loved him (ESPN made stuff up about locker room jealousy), he works very hard to get better (he plays hard too), and he is actually a pretty nice guy. His problem was a lack of maturity on how to stay out of the spotlight but he is improving there as well. Don't believe whatever ESPN tells you... They use him for ratings. The E in ESPN stands for entertainment.
Will he be great? One can't know for sure but I would take a chance on him being great before any other QB being great in the last few drafts outside of Luck. He will will the Browns to victories or spend the whole offseason improving if he doesn't play well. Sit back and enjoy b/c every snap is a chance to seem something amazing.
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I am very conflicted about the way the owner/HC have handled the first week of manziel's being a member of the team. While I agree with limiting media access - not a fan of ESPN's microscope on Manziel since he won Heisman, and feel that best to control the circus as much as possible, I think some of management's public statements have been demeaning and uncalled for. Manziel has made no indication that he is anything but "low man on the totem pole" and has said he knows that he has much to learn and is anxious to get started. When asked about gaining the confidence of veterans, Manziel knew actions speak louder than word and that he would need to show that he was a hard worker.
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Oh god... what did we as Browns fans do to deserve you Manziel morons.
Please just go back to that JF Shrine in your basement, say your prayers to JF, and go to bed.
We got a tough guy here. Belligerent haters make me laugh.
We got a tough guy here. Belligerent haters make me laugh.
Woody may very well be a little butt hurt about drafting JM but when new "fans" come in, talk shit about the city, and tell us how lucky we are to have him, well it's enough to piss off the rest of us that have been here for awhile.
Most of us are happy the BROWNS drafted JM but the success of the team is our priority.
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I am sorry if I came off as offensive. I just don't want to see the same thing happen to Manziel as has happened to Tebow, Jimmer, etc. You can't prove yourself without a real opportunity. A coach and a team have to be 100% on board.
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