OTA Early Report (Which Means Nothing)
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ohnny Manziel takes third-team reps at Browns' OTAs
- By Marc Sessler
- Around the League Writer
- Published: May 21, 2014 at 12:17 p.m.
- Updated: May 21, 2014 at 01:04 p.m.
The Browns weren't kidding around about shoving Johnny Manziel down the depth chart.
NFL Media's Aditi Kinkhabwala reported Wednesday that Cleveland launched its offseason workout activities with veteran quarterback Brian Hoyer taking first-team snaps. He was followed -- to our surprise -- by journeyman Tyler Thigpen at the No. 2 spot, before Johnny Football brought up the caboose with a collection of third-stringers.
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While threatening to melt the Internet, the team's under-center pecking order means next to nothing here in late May. In fact, Thigpen makes some sense at No. 2, considering his experience in the Pistol, which we expect offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan to lean on heavily this season.
The Browns, to the dismay of many, have preached competition from the minute they made Manziel the No. 22 overall pick in this month's draft.
New coach Mike Pettine isn't in the mood to designate a rookie as his starting quarterback without first seeing him on the field.
Nice plan, in theory, but the city's building mania for Manziel is bound to make a mockery of any scenario starring someone other than Johnny Football under center against the Steelers come Week 1.
Here's what else we learned from Wednesday's OTAs in C-Town:
1. After leading the way through 7-on-7s, Hoyer didn't participate in what Mary Kay Cabot of The Plain Dealer called a "spirited" round of 11-on-11s. Still yet to be cleared for full-squad snaps on the heels of knee surgery, Hoyer watched as Thigpen took first-team reps followed again by Manziel.
2. Kinkhabwala noted that "Manziel throws with some serious zip." He "can't match" Hoyer's accuracy and didn't show the same level of "understanding of WR routes," but as Aditi pointed out: It's May 21.
3. Also from Kinkhabwala: Josh Gordon, as expected, participated in the session and caught"EVERYTHING." The pass-catcher's potential lengthy suspension casts a gloom over Cleveland's otherwise action-packed offseason.
4. We were surprised to hear, per Cabot, that pass rusher Paul Kruger played with the backupsduring 11-on-11s. The outside linebacker later rejoined the starters with Jabaal Sheard dipping down to the second wave. Cleveland's coaching staff isn't playing favorites.
The latest "Around The League Podcast" plays the post-draft version of the game "What's More Likely" and breaks down all the latest news.
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You're going to make the JFF fan club suicidal.
"You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970. -
You are right. This means diddly.
(but what does "diddly" mean)?
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You are right. This means diddly.
(but what does "diddly" mean)?
You are right. This means diddly.
(but what does "diddly" mean)?
Squat.
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Gotta think he'll beat out Thigpen for the QB2 job. But this thing about not having had a playbook before is concerning.
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I don't think that's as big a deal as it was in the past. A&M's offense is a decedent from Mike Leach's and he just never had a playbook written down. But rather had DVDs of plays and various formations. A&M was similar as are a lot of schools now.
Johnny is studying the playbook like crazy right now. He will get it and not miss a beat.
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The NFL is all about preparation. Hopefully, he can learn from Hoyer, who learned about preparation from the best in his days in NE.
Success in the NFL is all about pre-snap reads. That comes from film study. After Vinny Interceptaverde went to the Jets, they were
shocked to learn that he didn't know how to break down game film--he watched game film like a typical fan watches a game.
Johnny has a loooong way to go. It's not just about learning the playbook. He has to know/understand what each players responsibility
is on each play. He has to know when to remind the tackle to pick up the guard because the guard has problems with a particular block.
If JF approaches this the right way, he'll be mentally fried by the end of the season. I for one am not looking forward to him being thrown
to the wolves early in the season just because he's a first round pick and we didn't draft a player in the first round to sit on the bench, etc.,
etc., etc. Let the kid learn and realize exactly what it takes to be a successful QB in the NFL.
I terribly want JF to be successful and lead the Browns to the promised land. But putting him on the field before he's ready is not the
way to go about it. John Elway's first NFL start was against the Steelers on the concrete in Three Rivers Stadium. He didn't make it
through the game.
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And on a non-Johnny Football related subject...
Of course Josh Gordon caught everything thrown to him... he's potentially the best damn WR in all of football... I'm waiting in anticipation of his pending suspension and, as always, hoping for the best news possible... Would love to see him win an appeal and be out there week 1, but I've conceded to the fact that he won't be there until the second half of the season at best. Gives JF a reason to not rush to the top of the depth chart when his best weapon might not be on the field...
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Anyone else hoping we just have a dull offseason next spring?
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So Manziel works with the 3rd stringers while the other guy..."Bridgewater" is taking snaps with the first team. I truly think we got the wrong guy..should had stuck with the original name on the card and what their studies said instead of over-reacting to a text crying for help.
"Both Schefter and GM Rick Spielman said on ESPN Tuesday that Bridgewater has been the "first one in the building and last one to leave" every day since the Vikings drafted him. A known football junkie, we don't think it'll take long for Teddy to learn the system."
"Vikings coach Mike Zimmer told NFL Network that Teddy Twatwater will take first-team reps during OTAs.
"Teddy's been great," Zimmer said. "He's had good command of the offense. I like his leadership. Throwing the ball well. He's progressing at a good pace." The Vikings were impressed with Bridgewater during minicamp and he hasn't shown any issues picking up Norv Turner's offense to this point. If Bridgewater outplays Matt Cassel this preseason, he should be the Week 1 starter."
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So Manziel works with the 3rd stringers while the other guy..."Bridgewater" is taking snaps with the first team. I truly think we got the wrong guy..should had stuck with the original name on the card and what their studies said instead of over-reacting to a text crying for help.
"Both Schefter and GM Rick Spielman said on ESPN Tuesday that Bridgewater has been the "first one in the building and last one to leave" every day since the Vikings drafted him. A known football junkie, we don't think it'll take long for Teddy to learn the system."
"Vikings coach Mike Zimmer told NFL Network that Teddy Twatwater will take first-team reps during OTAs.
"Teddy's been great," Zimmer said. "He's had good command of the offense. I like his leadership. Throwing the ball well. He's progressing at a good pace." The Vikings were impressed with Bridgewater during minicamp and he hasn't shown any issues picking up Norv Turner's offense to this point. If Bridgewater outplays Matt Cassel this preseason, he should be the Week 1 starter."
So Manziel works with the 3rd stringers while the other guy..."Bridgewater" is taking snaps with the first team. I truly think we got the wrong guy..should had stuck with the original name on the card and what their studies said instead of over-reacting to a text crying for help.
"Both Schefter and GM Rick Spielman said on ESPN Tuesday that Bridgewater has been the "first one in the building and last one to leave" every day since the Vikings drafted him. A known football junkie, we don't think it'll take long for Teddy to learn the system."
"Vikings coach Mike Zimmer told NFL Network that Teddy Twatwater will take first-team reps during OTAs.
"Teddy's been great," Zimmer said. "He's had good command of the offense. I like his leadership. Throwing the ball well. He's progressing at a good pace." The Vikings were impressed with Bridgewater during minicamp and he hasn't shown any issues picking up Norv Turner's offense to this point. If Bridgewater outplays Matt Cassel this preseason, he should be the Week 1 starter."
In related news, it's May 21st.
Chill the fuck out, bruthah.
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So Manziel works with the 3rd stringers while the other guy..."Bridgewater" is taking snaps with the first team. I truly think we got the wrong guy..should had stuck with the original name on the card and what their studies said instead of over-reacting to a text crying for help.
"Both Schefter and GM Rick Spielman said on ESPN Tuesday that Bridgewater has been the "first one in the building and last one to leave" every day since the Vikings drafted him. A known football junkie, we don't think it'll take long for Teddy to learn the system."
"Vikings coach Mike Zimmer told NFL Network that Teddy Twatwater will take first-team reps during OTAs.
"Teddy's been great," Zimmer said. "He's had good command of the offense. I like his leadership. Throwing the ball well. He's progressing at a good pace." The Vikings were impressed with Bridgewater during minicamp and he hasn't shown any issues picking up Norv Turner's offense to this point. If Bridgewater outplays Matt Cassel this preseason, he should be the Week 1 starter."
So Manziel works with the 3rd stringers while the other guy..."Bridgewater" is taking snaps with the first team. I truly think we got the wrong guy..should had stuck with the original name on the card and what their studies said instead of over-reacting to a text crying for help.
"Both Schefter and GM Rick Spielman said on ESPN Tuesday that Bridgewater has been the "first one in the building and last one to leave" every day since the Vikings drafted him. A known football junkie, we don't think it'll take long for Teddy to learn the system."
"Vikings coach Mike Zimmer told NFL Network that Teddy Twatwater will take first-team reps during OTAs.
"Teddy's been great," Zimmer said. "He's had good command of the offense. I like his leadership. Throwing the ball well. He's progressing at a good pace." The Vikings were impressed with Bridgewater during minicamp and he hasn't shown any issues picking up Norv Turner's offense to this point. If Bridgewater outplays Matt Cassel this preseason, he should be the Week 1 starter."
Your hate for him is well know, but he is a Brown now so STFU.
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Okie Dokie
Can't wait until 2015 draft..
With the first overall pick...The Cleveland Brown selects...
MARCUS MARIOTA
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So Manziel works with the 3rd stringers while the other guy..."Bridgewater" is taking snaps with the first team. I truly think we got the wrong guy..should had stuck with the original name on the card and what their studies said instead of over-reacting to a text crying for help.
"Both Schefter and GM Rick Spielman said on ESPN Tuesday that Bridgewater has been the "first one in the building and last one to leave" every day since the Vikings drafted him. A known football junkie, we don't think it'll take long for Teddy to learn the system."
"Vikings coach Mike Zimmer told NFL Network that Teddy Twatwater will take first-team reps during OTAs.
"Teddy's been great," Zimmer said. "He's had good command of the offense. I like his leadership. Throwing the ball well. He's progressing at a good pace." The Vikings were impressed with Bridgewater during minicamp and he hasn't shown any issues picking up Norv Turner's offense to this point. If Bridgewater outplays Matt Cassel this preseason, he should be the Week 1 starter."
So Manziel works with the 3rd stringers while the other guy..."Bridgewater" is taking snaps with the first team. I truly think we got the wrong guy..should had stuck with the original name on the card and what their studies said instead of over-reacting to a text crying for help.
"Both Schefter and GM Rick Spielman said on ESPN Tuesday that Bridgewater has been the "first one in the building and last one to leave" every day since the Vikings drafted him. A known football junkie, we don't think it'll take long for Teddy to learn the system."
"Vikings coach Mike Zimmer told NFL Network that Teddy Twatwater will take first-team reps during OTAs.
"Teddy's been great," Zimmer said. "He's had good command of the offense. I like his leadership. Throwing the ball well. He's progressing at a good pace." The Vikings were impressed with Bridgewater during minicamp and he hasn't shown any issues picking up Norv Turner's offense to this point. If Bridgewater outplays Matt Cassel this preseason, he should be the Week 1 starter."
Weeden outplayed McCoy and won the starting job for week 1. That went great.
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So Manziel works with the 3rd stringers while the other guy..."Bridgewater" is taking snaps with the first team. I truly think we got the wrong guy..should had stuck with the original name on the card and what their studies said instead of over-reacting to a text crying for help.
"Both Schefter and GM Rick Spielman said on ESPN Tuesday that Bridgewater has been the "first one in the building and last one to leave" every day since the Vikings drafted him. A known football junkie, we don't think it'll take long for Teddy to learn the system."
"Vikings coach Mike Zimmer told NFL Network that Teddy Twatwater will take first-team reps during OTAs.
"Teddy's been great," Zimmer said. "He's had good command of the offense. I like his leadership. Throwing the ball well. He's progressing at a good pace." The Vikings were impressed with Bridgewater during minicamp and he hasn't shown any issues picking up Norv Turner's offense to this point. If Bridgewater outplays Matt Cassel this preseason, he should be the Week 1 starter."
Weeden outplayed McCoy and won the starting job for week 1. That went great.
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Okie Dokie
Can't wait until 2015 draft..
With the first overall pick...The Cleveland Brown selects...
MARCUS MARIOTA
Okie Dokie
Can't wait until 2015 draft..
With the first overall pick...The Cleveland Brown selects...
MARCUS MARIOTA
Why would he be any better than Masoli?
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So Manziel works with the 3rd stringers while the other guy..."Bridgewater" is taking snaps with the first team. I truly think we got the wrong guy..should had stuck with the original name on the card and what their studies said instead of over-reacting to a text crying for help.
"Both Schefter and GM Rick Spielman said on ESPN Tuesday that Bridgewater has been the "first one in the building and last one to leave" every day since the Vikings drafted him. A known football junkie, we don't think it'll take long for Teddy to learn the system."
"Vikings coach Mike Zimmer told NFL Network that Teddy Twatwater will take first-team reps during OTAs.
"Teddy's been great," Zimmer said. "He's had good command of the offense. I like his leadership. Throwing the ball well. He's progressing at a good pace." The Vikings were impressed with Bridgewater during minicamp and he hasn't shown any issues picking up Norv Turner's offense to this point. If Bridgewater outplays Matt Cassel this preseason, he should be the Week 1 starter."
Weeden outplayed McCoy and won the starting job for week 1. That went great.
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The blitz is when Johnny shines.
But I agree he needs time and has to make lots of improvements.
One thing not being reported is him staying until after midnight studying what they are asking him to study. And being there bright and early for workouts.
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He is really banging all the Steelers wives and girlfriends. They love Johnny Football.
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