Jonathan Paul Manziel
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XxDaBuckeyexX said:
Joe Thomas and Joe Haden.
I'd agree with that. They were the best players the Browns had for the last 5-8 years.
But now it's Manziel.
But now it's Manziel.
Premature... possible, maybe even inevitable, but premature.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
I don't think you have a choice. The "face" is what people think of when they think of the browns. That's Manziel.
I'm not saying it's right or logical, but that's the truth. I understand marketing other players on billboards and stuff, probably best until a guy makes a pro bowl or wins a playoff game.
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Vegas must love this guy. First the free promotional spot from this weekend and now this.
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I don't think you have a choice. The "face" is what people think of when they think of the browns. That's Manziel.
I'm not saying it's right or logical, but that's the truth. I understand marketing other players on billboards and stuff, probably best until a guy makes a pro bowl or wins a playoff game.
I don't think you have a choice. The "face" is what people think of when they think of the browns. That's Manziel.
I'm not saying it's right or logical, but that's the truth. I understand marketing other players on billboards and stuff, probably best until a guy makes a pro bowl or wins a playoff game.
That is what YOU think of when thinking of the Browns. I for one do not, and I'm sure I'm not just speaking for myself.
Not saying he'll never be, but c'mon he's been on the team for less than a month now...
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I just sit here and laugh. You guys have no idea what your about to witness in Manziel. Just no idea at all. Get ready for great times. Oh and bookmark this if ya feel like it.
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I just sit here and laugh. You guys have no idea what your about to witness in Manziel. Just no idea at all. Get ready for great times. Oh and bookmark this if ya feel like it.
I just sit here and laugh. You guys have no idea what your about to witness in Manziel. Just no idea at all. Get ready for great times. Oh and bookmark this if ya feel like it.
No need to bookmark, I don't think any of us will forget the 143rd Texas A&M fan to join the site and tell us how great our quarterback is going to be.
Zombo
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Hahaha Z. Yep, the 143rd Texas A&M fan is as memorable as the 69th or the 96th one.
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Just a little change of pace......
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Dear lord that a lot of amazing big butts.
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Well back (no pun or bun intended) to the topic, here is a good read on the business side of "Johnny Football"., a.k.a. "Johnny Cleveland".
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2014/05/johnny_manziel_endorsement_cle.html
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Just a little change of pace......
Just a little change of pace......
i wonder if the same people that wax their asses wax their hairy stomachs?
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I don't think you have a choice. The "face" is what people think of when they think of the browns. That's Manziel.
I'm not saying it's right or logical, but that's the truth. I understand marketing other players on billboards and stuff, probably best until a guy makes a pro bowl or wins a playoff game.
That is what YOU think of when thinking of the Browns. I for one do not, and I'm sure I'm not just speaking for myself.
Not saying he'll never be, but c'mon he's been on the team for less than a month now...
That is what YOU think of when thinking of the Browns. I for one do not, and I'm sure I'm not just speaking for myself.
Not saying he'll never be, but c'mon he's been on the team for less than a month now...
Face of the franchise? Really depends on who you are asking.
Among Browns fans I think you'd get lots of Thomas, Haden and even Gordon votes. Gordon would have had my vote if not for the pending suspension... guy had a monster season last year and is definitely our best proven impact player. Manziel will get some love here too but I would think most Browns fans aren't ready to say he's the face of the franchise until he's at least become our starting QB.
Among non Browns fans (NFL fans of other teams or in general) I would say like it or not Manziel is the face of the franchise. Actually hard to argue against that. Just go see how many Browns related articles there are on ESPN and other national media sites that DON'T center around Manziel. Say "Browns" to other football fans and they'll immediately start talking about Manziel. It is what it is.
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crazy.
manziel fans hate the media when johnny hates it (which is never IMO) but yet they use the media to validate "how many stories do you see about the browns without it being related to JF?" "therefor he has to be the face of the browns!"
that is what amazes me with the JF only fans. put the player above the team. no respect for anything else browns. it's johnny or nothing.
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crazy.
manziel fans hate the media when johnny hates it (which is never IMO) but yet they use the media to validate "how many stories do you see about the browns without it being related to JF?" "therefor he has to be the face of the browns!"
that is what amazes me with the JF only fans. put the player above the team. no respect for anything else browns. it's johnny or nothing.
crazy.
manziel fans hate the media when johnny hates it (which is never IMO) but yet they use the media to validate "how many stories do you see about the browns without it being related to JF?" "therefor he has to be the face of the browns!"
that is what amazes me with the JF only fans. put the player above the team. no respect for anything else browns. it's johnny or nothing.
I support JFF because we drafted him. I did NOT want to draft him but hey... FO didn't listen to me.
With that said, I guess it depends on how you define what the face of the franchise is. If it's purely from a football perspective then I'm going with Haden. But that isn't who most NFL fans (outside of CLE fans) will think of when you start to talk about the Browns which is another definition you can use as the face of the franchise. I didn't make it that way.... it is what it is.
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crazy.
manziel fans hate the media when johnny hates it (which is never IMO) but yet they use the media to validate "how many stories do you see about the browns without it being related to JF?" "therefor he has to be the face of the browns!"
that is what amazes me with the JF only fans. put the player above the team. no respect for anything else browns. it's johnny or nothing.
crazy.
manziel fans hate the media when johnny hates it (which is never IMO) but yet they use the media to validate "how many stories do you see about the browns without it being related to JF?" "therefor he has to be the face of the browns!"
that is what amazes me with the JF only fans. put the player above the team. no respect for anything else browns. it's johnny or nothing.
I wish these JFF only piss ants would go to a JFF forum. I'm sure they have forums and fanboy pages all over the web for him. They make it hard to root for the guy because if he does succeed, 1. they will still be spewing shit on the forum and 2. it will be I told you so, I told you so...
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crazy.
manziel fans hate the media when johnny hates it (which is never IMO) but yet they use the media to validate "how many stories do you see about the browns without it being related to JF?" "therefor he has to be the face of the browns!"
that is what amazes me with the JF only fans. put the player above the team. no respect for anything else browns. it's johnny or nothing.
crazy.
manziel fans hate the media when johnny hates it (which is never IMO) but yet they use the media to validate "how many stories do you see about the browns without it being related to JF?" "therefor he has to be the face of the browns!"
that is what amazes me with the JF only fans. put the player above the team. no respect for anything else browns. it's johnny or nothing.
You don't give us a chance.
I don't say much about the Browns, because I don't know the Browns. They are in the AFC, I've followed the NFC all my life. They are hardly on television in this area of the country because they've sucked for 12 years or however long they've fielded a team this time.
I've watched JFF for two seasons, I know a little about him, so I comment about him more.
On the other hand...
If I just went about spewing ignorant thoughts about the Browns, I suppose I would fit right in....
In the meantime, could you guys please put on your big girl panties and get over people following the Browns because of JFF? Because right now you sound like you were born in Pittsburgh.
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crazy.
manziel fans hate the media when johnny hates it (which is never IMO) but yet they use the media to validate "how many stories do you see about the browns without it being related to JF?" "therefor he has to be the face of the browns!"
that is what amazes me with the JF only fans. put the player above the team. no respect for anything else browns. it's johnny or nothing.
I support JFF because we drafted him. I did NOT want to draft him but hey... FO didn't listen to me.
With that said, I guess it depends on how you define what the face of the franchise is. If it's purely from a football perspective then I'm going with Haden. But that isn't who most NFL fans (outside of CLE fans) will think of when you start to talk about the Browns which is another definition you can use as the face of the franchise. I didn't make it that way.... it is what it is.
I did NOT want to draft (JFF) but hey... FO didn't listen to me.
With that said, I guess it depends on how you define what the face of the franchise is.
Get a rope!
Originally the franchise chose who was to be its "face" and put a photo of that player, or those players, in every ad. It's how the term was born.
TyperWoods said:
Because right now you sound like you were born in Pittsburgh.
Well... you're getting the insults down... so I guess that's something.
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crazy.
manziel fans hate the media when johnny hates it (which is never IMO) but yet they use the media to validate "how many stories do you see about the browns without it being related to JF?" "therefor he has to be the face of the browns!"
that is what amazes me with the JF only fans. put the player above the team. no respect for anything else browns. it's johnny or nothing.
I wish these JFF only piss ants would go to a JFF forum. I'm sure they have forums and fanboy pages all over the web for him. They make it hard to root for the guy because if he does succeed, 1. they will still be spewing shit on the forum and 2. it will be I told you so, I told you so...
I wish these JFF only piss ants would go to a JFF forum. I'm sure they have forums and fanboy pages all over the web for him. They make it hard to root for the guy because if he does succeed, 1. they will still be spewing shit on the forum and 2. it will be I told you so, I told you so...
LOL-most of us have kept it to the Johnny Manziel thread as much as possible just for you. You don't have to read it you know.
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crazy.
manziel fans hate the media when johnny hates it (which is never IMO) but yet they use the media to validate "how many stories do you see about the browns without it being related to JF?" "therefor he has to be the face of the browns!"
that is what amazes me with the JF only fans. put the player above the team. no respect for anything else browns. it's johnny or nothing.
You don't give us a chance.
I don't say much about the Browns, because I don't know the Browns. They are in the AFC, I've followed the NFC all my life. They are hardly on television in this area of the country because they've sucked for 12 years or however long they've fielded a team this time.
I've watched JFF for two seasons, I know a little about him, so I comment about him more.
On the other hand...
If I just went about spewing ignorant thoughts about the Browns, I suppose I would fit right in....
In the meantime, could you guys please put on your big girl panties and get over people following the Browns because of JFF? Because right now you sound like you were born in Pittsburgh.
TyperWoods said:
You don't give us a chance.
there are plenty of JF on here that are respectful and not 'one-way' fans. they respect that this is a browns board first.
I don't say much about the Browns, because I don't know the Browns. They are in the AFC, I've followed the NFC all my life. They are hardly on television in this area of the country because they've sucked for 12 years or however long they've fielded a team this time.
see. you do nothing but prove my point.
I've watched JFF for two seasons, I know a little about him, so I comment about him more.
really? i've had dates that've lasted longer.
On the other hand...
If I just went about spewing ignorant thoughts about the Browns, I suppose I would fit right in....
once again just keep proving my point.....
In the meantime, could you guys please put on your big girl panties and get over people following the Browns because of JFF? Because right now you sound like you were born in Pittsburgh.
need i say more? i think it would be stupid to think any browns fan would want manziel to fail. we all want our draft picks to be awesome. the difference is no one is on here sucking justin gilbert's dick.
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