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  • This may sound a little strange. but it makes sense. I am actually more interested in what happens the 2nd half of the season than the first. By then this staff and all players are more in tune with what they are trying to do and new players will have had a chance to grow along their learning curves by then to see what this team really is going to be. I would not want to trade away a lot of the future for one guy. Too many teams have been burned in the long run for building from the top down rather than from the ground up. I'd rather see a field stretcher like Bama's Cooper plus another OL than I would a Jimmy Graham, even as great as he is.

  • This may sound a little strange. but it makes sense. I am actually more interested in what happens the 2nd half of the season than the first. By then this staff and all players are more in tune with what they are trying to do and new players will have had a chance to grow along their learning curves by then to see what this team really is going to be. I would not want to trade away a lot of the future for one guy. Too many teams have been burned in the long run for building from the top down rather than from the ground up. I'd rather see a field stretcher like Bama's Cooper plus another OL than I would a Jimmy Graham, even as great as he is.

    @texasag1969 said:

    This may sound a little strange. but it makes sense. I am actually more interested in what happens the 2nd half of the season than the first.

    Nothing strange about looking for continuous improvement... lack of it was what got our prior HC fired after one season.

  • Let's wait and see if Hoyer or JF can make us an actual QB before we go giving away 1st rounders

  • Let's wait and see if Hoyer or JF can make us an actual QB before we go giving away 1st rounders

    @comeonman said:

    Let's wait and see if Hoyer or JF can make us an actual QB before we go giving away 1st rounders

    they'll still have to have someone to throw it to. after gordons recent Fups i don't think the FO is going to consider him part of the team anymore, which leaves us with who?

    keep the picks for next year's watkins or evans.

  • price is too steep for graham, browns have already downplayed the importance of needing a big time WR to win. We have no one individual to replace 1646 yards of receiving however a collection of guys that actually catch the ball on third down does wonders for an offense.

  • @comeonman said:

    Let's wait and see if Hoyer or JF can make us an actual QB before we go giving away 1st rounders

    they'll still have to have someone to throw it to. after gordons recent Fups i don't think the FO is going to consider him part of the team anymore, which leaves us with who?

    keep the picks for next year's watkins or evans.

    @miktoxic said:

    keep the picks for next year's watkins or evans.

    Amari Cooper, Bama.

  • Uhhh no. I'd rather keep the money and the picks. Resign Cameron if he continues what he did last year.

    I'd rather trade a first for an Andre Johnson, or a 2nd+ for a Roddy White or Crabtree instead of give up 2 for sties when we are only a couple pieces ... and joints, away from being legit.

  • Yeah I'd rather keep the Two First Rounders next year and target one of the following scenarios

    Leonard Williams (1A) or Mario Edwards (1B) to fill in for Ahtyba Rubin's probable departure

    and

    Amari Cooper (1A) or Stefon Diggs (1B) to step in at WR2 right away with potential to become a number 1 down the road (especially if Gordon continues to not pan out)

    Having Winston and Mariota hopefully declare will knock blue chip players down closer to where the Browns/Bills picks will probably be.... In two years, the Browns will be flush with blue chip talent and hopefully Manziel can put it all together to round out what looks to be a solid team.

  • Yeah I'd rather keep the Two First Rounders next year and target one of the following scenarios

    Leonard Williams (1A) or Mario Edwards (1B) to fill in for Ahtyba Rubin's probable departure

    and

    Amari Cooper (1A) or Stefon Diggs (1B) to step in at WR2 right away with potential to become a number 1 down the road (especially if Gordon continues to not pan out)

    Having Winston and Mariota hopefully declare will knock blue chip players down closer to where the Browns/Bills picks will probably be.... In two years, the Browns will be flush with blue chip talent and hopefully Manziel can put it all together to round out what looks to be a solid team.

    @mdmusch said:

    Yeah I'd rather keep the Two First Rounders next year and target one of the following scenarios

    Leonard Williams (1A) or Mario Edwards (1B) to fill in for Ahtyba Rubin's probable departure

    and

    Amari Cooper (1A) or Stefon Diggs (1B) to step in at WR2 right away with potential to become a number 1 down the road (especially if Gordon continues to not pan out)

    Having Winston and Mariota hopefully declare will knock blue chip players down closer to where the Browns/Bills picks will probably be.... In two years, the Browns will be flush with blue chip talent and hopefully Manziel can put it all together to round out what looks to be a solid team.

    perfect scenario right there.

  • price is too steep for graham, browns have already downplayed the importance of needing a big time WR to win. We have no one individual to replace 1646 yards of receiving however a collection of guys that actually catch the ball on third down does wonders for an offense.

    @topdawg31 said:

    price is too steep for graham, browns have already downplayed the importance of needing a big time WR to win. We have no one individual to replace 1646 yards of receiving however a collection of guys that actually catch the ball on third down does wonders for an offense.

    I don't necessarily disagree but remember that their playing down the need for a stud receiver could also be a negotiating tactic.

  • @topdawg31 said:

    price is too steep for graham, browns have already downplayed the importance of needing a big time WR to win. We have no one individual to replace 1646 yards of receiving however a collection of guys that actually catch the ball on third down does wonders for an offense.

    I don't necessarily disagree but remember that their playing down the need for a stud receiver could also be a negotiating tactic.

    @jcam222 said:

    I don't necessarily disagree but remember that their playing down the need for a stud receiver could also be a negotiating tactic.

    negotiating for who and what? we didn't draft any WR's and Gordon has puffed his way out of any big money.

  • I just want us to compete and sweep Pisspuke for a change. That would cure everything.

  • @mdmusch said:

    Yeah I'd rather keep the Two First Rounders next year and target one of the following scenarios

    Leonard Williams (1A) or Mario Edwards (1B) to fill in for Ahtyba Rubin's probable departure

    and

    Amari Cooper (1A) or Stefon Diggs (1B) to step in at WR2 right away with potential to become a number 1 down the road (especially if Gordon continues to not pan out)

    Having Winston and Mariota hopefully declare will knock blue chip players down closer to where the Browns/Bills picks will probably be.... In two years, the Browns will be flush with blue chip talent and hopefully Manziel can put it all together to round out what looks to be a solid team.

    perfect scenario right there.

    @miktoxic said:

    perfect (draft) scenario right there.

    If that's the case, then Spring, 2015 is going to be really dull...

  • @miktoxic said:

    perfect (draft) scenario right there.

    If that's the case, then Spring, 2015 is going to be really dull...

    @tour2ma said:

    If that's the case, then Spring, 2015 is going to be really dull...

    is anything ever really dull around here tour?

    man these guys are throwing out names already. can't imagine what it'll be like if we go 5 and 11 and are staring at a top ten pick again.

    who will it be?? hmmmmmm.