Browns waive DB Jamoris Slaughter
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Furthermore, Heckert at least drafted Joe Haden, TJ Ward, Phil Taylor, Jabaal Sheard, Jordan Cameron, Travis Benjamin and one more....who was it...
Josh Gordon.
So maybe Richardson sucked. And maybe Weeden was a desperation pick. And maybe Mitchell Schwartz isn't really all he's cracked up to be...even though he's started every game since he was drafted. But without Heckert, we wouldn't have Haden. We wouldn't have Sheard. We wouldn't have Cameron. We wouldn't have Gordon. And we wouldn't have had TJ Ward.
And we still have some decent depth with Hughes, Winn and Pinkston, who were also picked by Heckert.
So, to be honest... the fact that you even compared Heckert to Lombardi is laughable.
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Furthermore, Heckert at least drafted Joe Haden, TJ Ward, Phil Taylor, Jabaal Sheard, Jordan Cameron, Travis Benjamin and one more....who was it...
Josh Gordon.
So maybe Richardson sucked. And maybe Weeden was a desperation pick. And maybe Mitchell Schwartz isn't really all he's cracked up to be...even though he's started every game since he was drafted. But without Heckert, we wouldn't have Haden. We wouldn't have Sheard. We wouldn't have Cameron. We wouldn't have Gordon. And we wouldn't have had TJ Ward.
And we still have some decent depth with Hughes, Winn and Pinkston, who were also picked by Heckert.
So, to be honest... the fact that you even compared Heckert to Lombardi is laughable.
Furthermore, Heckert at least drafted Joe Haden, TJ Ward, Phil Taylor, Jabaal Sheard, Jordan Cameron, Travis Benjamin and one more....who was it...
Josh Gordon.
So maybe Richardson sucked. And maybe Weeden was a desperation pick. And maybe Mitchell Schwartz isn't really all he's cracked up to be...even though he's started every game since he was drafted. But without Heckert, we wouldn't have Haden. We wouldn't have Sheard. We wouldn't have Cameron. We wouldn't have Gordon. And we wouldn't have had TJ Ward.
And we still have some decent depth with Hughes, Winn and Pinkston, who were also picked by Heckert.
So, to be honest... the fact that you even compared Heckert to Lombardi is laughable.
Three years to one year is laughable.
Did you forget about Hardesty? Maresic? Did you forget about Usama Young, Carlton Mitchell, etc?
I'm didn't even like Lombardi. My point is that Dombo brought up how terrible Lombardi and used cutting a sixth round pick as evidence.
Btw----------I couldn't stand Timid. Not one player in our entire history set this franchise back as much as that little pussy.
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Furthermore, Heckert at least drafted Joe Haden, TJ Ward, Phil Taylor, Jabaal Sheard, Jordan Cameron, Travis Benjamin and one more....who was it...
Josh Gordon.
So maybe Richardson sucked. And maybe Weeden was a desperation pick. And maybe Mitchell Schwartz isn't really all he's cracked up to be...even though he's started every game since he was drafted. But without Heckert, we wouldn't have Haden. We wouldn't have Sheard. We wouldn't have Cameron. We wouldn't have Gordon. And we wouldn't have had TJ Ward.
And we still have some decent depth with Hughes, Winn and Pinkston, who were also picked by Heckert.
So, to be honest... the fact that you even compared Heckert to Lombardi is laughable.
Three years to one year is laughable.
Did you forget about Hardesty? Maresic? Did you forget about Usama Young, Carlton Mitchell, etc?
I'm didn't even like Lombardi. My point is that Dombo brought up how terrible Lombardi and used cutting a sixth round pick as evidence.
Btw----------I couldn't stand Timid. Not one player in our entire history set this franchise back as much as that little pussy.
My point is that Dombo brought up how terrible Lombardi and used cutting a sixth round pick as evidence.
Holy FUCK you are Retarded!
He's just another guy that didn't make it for Lombardi.
Lombardi, despite of all of fierce critics, got another draft, and it is not looking like the players he choose weren't warranted picks or even NFL roster material.
Yes, that one guy is a sixth rounder, you cum chugging idiot, but I'm saying, AS A WHOLE, looking like another failed draft for this guy, and his OVERALL record is abysmal.
Now, do us all a big favor and quit being such a scrotum licking little douchebag about one post that says "another guy out the door ... Lombardi draft record still looking bad"
Zombo
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My point is that Dombo brought up how terrible Lombardi and used cutting a sixth round pick as evidence.
Holy FUCK you are Retarded!
He's just another guy that didn't make it for Lombardi.
Lombardi, despite of all of fierce critics, got another draft, and it is not looking like the players he choose weren't warranted picks or even NFL roster material.
Yes, that one guy is a sixth rounder, you cum chugging idiot, but I'm saying, AS A WHOLE, looking like another failed draft for this guy, and his OVERALL record is abysmal.
Now, do us all a big favor and quit being such a scrotum licking little douchebag about one post that says "another guy out the door ... Lombardi draft record still looking bad"
Zombo
Zombo said:
Holy FUCK you are Retarded!
He's just another guy that didn't make it for Lombardi.
Lombardi, despite of all of fierce critics, got another draft, and it is not looking like the players he choose were warranted picks or even NFL roster material.
Yes, that one guy is a sixth rounder, you cum chugging idiot, but I'm saying, AS A WHOLE, looking like another failed draft for this guy, and his OVERALL record is abysmal.
Now, do us all a big favor and quit being such a scrotum licking little douchebag about one post that says "another guy out the door ... Lombardi draft record still looking bad"
Zombo
You are hilarious. Seriously man...........thanks for the deep-bellied laugh.
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They took him in the 6th knowing he was a risk. If he could fully recover it would have been a great value pick. It doesn't look like he did though. Shame
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Furthermore, Heckert at least drafted Joe Haden, TJ Ward, Phil Taylor, Jabaal Sheard, Jordan Cameron, Travis Benjamin and one more....who was it...
Josh Gordon.
So maybe Richardson sucked. And maybe Weeden was a desperation pick. And maybe Mitchell Schwartz isn't really all he's cracked up to be...even though he's started every game since he was drafted. But without Heckert, we wouldn't have Haden. We wouldn't have Sheard. We wouldn't have Cameron. We wouldn't have Gordon. And we wouldn't have had TJ Ward.
And we still have some decent depth with Hughes, Winn and Pinkston, who were also picked by Heckert.
So, to be honest... the fact that you even compared Heckert to Lombardi is laughable.
Three years to one year is laughable.
Did you forget about Hardesty? Maresic? Did you forget about Usama Young, Carlton Mitchell, etc?
I'm didn't even like Lombardi. My point is that Dombo brought up how terrible Lombardi and used cutting a sixth round pick as evidence.
Btw----------I couldn't stand Timid. Not one player in our entire history set this franchise back as much as that little pussy.
Three years to one year is laughable.
Did you forget about Hardesty? Maresic? Did you forget about Usama Young, Carlton Mitchell, etc?
I'm didn't even like Lombardi. My point is that Dombo brought up how terrible Lombardi and used cutting a sixth round pick as evidence.
Btw----------I couldn't stand Timid. Not one player in our entire history set this franchise back as much as that little pussy.
You're right. It's laughable that Lombardi couldn't even manage to make it three years as GM of one of the worst teams in the league.
I didn't forget about Hardesty or Marecic or Asante. Usama Young was a free agent acquisition and started 19 games over 2 years for the Browns, registering 87 tackles, 8 passes defended and 4 interceptions. He wasn't a Pro Bowler by any stretch of the imagination but he surely wasn't a terrible free safety.
As a comparison, Tashaun Gipson (who was signed by Heckert as a UDFA, mind you) has started 18 games, registered 86 tackles, 13 passes defended and 6 interceptions...and many analysts have lauded his performance.
My point was that Heckert drafted 5x as many players who contributed to the Browns as Lombardi did. In Heckert's first year, he drafted 5 immediate starters with his first five picks (Haden, Ward, Hardesty, McCoy, and Lauvao). In his next year, he drafted 3 more starters with his first three picks (Taylor, Sheard, Little), plus he grabbed Jordan Cameron in the 4th round. The same Jordan Cameron who made the Pro Bowl last season. Heckert also drafted Skrine, who has started for the past 2 seasons at #2 CB and will likely be our nickel this year, in the 5th round, along with Pinkston who will be a depth interior lineman.
In 2012, Heckert panicked and shit the bed, drafting Richardson and Weeden in the first year. However, as much as you may hate Schwartz, he has still started every game since being drafted and will start opening day this year. In addition, Heckert drafted John Hughes, Travis Benjamin and Billy Winn in rounds 3,4, and 6, respectively. All of which will likely be on the opening day roster this season.
So- looking back, Heckert drafted 11 immediate starters in his three years as a GM in Cleveland. Of the 27 players he drafted, 10 of them are still on the roster (37%) and 3 of them have made it to the Pro Bowl at least once.
And none of that is factoring in Josh Gordon.
In Lombardi's short tenure, he drafted 5 players. None of them were opening day starters. In fact, they have only recorded 5 starts between the five of them. One has already been released. Another may be released before the end of the offseason (McFadden). Mingo is the cream of the crop and is a tweener pass rushing specialist who could either go the way of Aldon Smith or Vernon Gholston.
You seem to take offense to Zombo citing the cutting of a sixth round pick...yet you bring another one up in your counterargument (Mitchell).
At the end of the day, Heckert drafted one entire side of the ball of starters, Lombardi drafted zero. Heckert drafted 3 Pro Bowlers, Lombardi drafted zero. There are players that Heckert drafted 4 years ago that are still starting, while the players that Lombardi drafted last year are getting cut.
For the record, I'm also not a fan of Tim Couch, so if that was your attempt to try and incite an anger-filled retort from me...you'll have to keep trying.
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This is going to be Mitchell Schwartz's breakout season. Calling it right here. He's gonna block his own ass off.
May the Schwartz be with you!
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@mike-h said:
Who the fuck is this knob gobbler
He don't need no help. He's already been served. I served him. He's taken care of. He's a little slow, but he got it. See, what he thought was he can come up here and make the rules. But now, he see that Jay make the rules at Smart Tech, that I run this bitch, and now he 'bout to bounce!
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Zomboni and Tim are both bitches. And if you haven't noticed, Z loves getting facials and blowing cum bubbles. That's all the fat fuck thinks about, hot loads exploding on his face.
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Zomboni and Tim are both bitches. And if you haven't noticed, Z loves getting facials and blowing cum bubbles. That's all the fat fuck thinks about, hot loads exploding on his face.
Zomboni and Tim are both bitches. And if you haven't noticed, Z loves getting facials and blowing cum bubbles. That's all the fat fuck thinks about, hot loads exploding on his face.
Aw, Cbus' wittle pussy huwts. Maybe da wittle baby would wike it if I wuz nicer to him?
Want to play with the big dogs, then learn what the fuck you are talking about. Until then, be a bitch.
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what does the C in CBUS stand for?
cunt?
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If you want to know who Vers is I suggest you take a gander at Dawgtalkers (which is supposed to be up tomorrow).
I pity the owner of this site. Rule number one is censorship. If not you have the likes of these "little boys" and shoo away good knowledgable posters (men).
I guess some people like to talk about semen and buttholes and that sort of thing. This isn't a browns board, this is an audition for gay porn.
Congrats ya got my vote.
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Zomboni and Tim are both bitches. And if you haven't noticed, Z loves getting facials and blowing cum bubbles. That's all the fat fuck thinks about, hot loads exploding on his face.
Aw, Cbus' wittle pussy huwts. Maybe da wittle baby would wike it if I wuz nicer to him?
Want to play with the big dogs, then learn what the fuck you are talking about. Until then, be a bitch.
Aw, Cbus' wittle pussy huwts. Maybe da wittle baby would wike it if I wuz nicer to him?
Want to play with the big dogs, then learn what the fuck you are talking about. Until then, be a bitch.
Ha! Noone gives a fuck about you, dumbass! You're Zombo's little bitch, little fuckin minion. You're posts aren't even worth reading.
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If you want to know who Vers is I suggest you take a gander at Dawgtalkers (which is supposed to be up tomorrow).
I pity the owner of this site. Rule number one is censorship. If not you have the likes of these "little boys" and shoo away good knowledgable posters (men).
I guess some people like to talk about semen and buttholes and that sort of thing. This isn't a browns board, this is an audition for gay porn.
Congrats ya got my vote.
If you want to know who Vers is I suggest you take a gander at Dawgtalkers (which is supposed to be up tomorrow).
I pity the owner of this site. Rule number one is censorship. If not you have the likes of these "little boys" and shoo away good knowledgable posters (men).
I guess some people like to talk about semen and buttholes and that sort of thing. This isn't a browns board, this is an audition for gay porn.
Congrats ya got my vote.
I see no knowledgable (sic) posters. Knowledgable posters wouldn't compare Lombardi's draft history to Heckert's.
The Browns Board is just like the internet (and life) as a whole, you've got to duck your head and wade through the pussies, assholes, and dicks.
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If you want to know who Vers is I suggest you take a gander at Dawgtalkers (which is supposed to be up tomorrow).
I pity the owner of this site. Rule number one is censorship. If not you have the likes of these "little boys" and shoo away good knowledgable posters (men).
I guess some people like to talk about semen and buttholes and that sort of thing. This isn't a browns board, this is an audition for gay porn.
Congrats ya got my vote.
If you want to know who Vers is I suggest you take a gander at Dawgtalkers (which is supposed to be up tomorrow).
I pity the owner of this site. Rule number one is censorship. If not you have the likes of these "little boys" and shoo away good knowledgable posters (men).
I guess some people like to talk about semen and buttholes and that sort of thing. This isn't a browns board, this is an audition for gay porn.
Congrats ya got my vote.
fork off.
there hasn't been a problem here until the likes of you and VER and whoever else thinks they're the judge and jury of what other people may think and write.
let's start the censorship by booting you and your evil forking twin the fork off the board.
BTW...fork = FUCK. fuckface.
DAWGTALKERS. lol. "i really like pomeranians because they have the roughest tongues when it comes to lathering up my taint."
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Aw, Cbus' wittle pussy huwts. Maybe da wittle baby would wike it if I wuz nicer to him?
Want to play with the big dogs, then learn what the fuck you are talking about. Until then, be a bitch.
Ha! Noone gives a fuck about you, dumbass! You're Zombo's little bitch, little fuckin minion. You're posts aren't even worth reading.
Ha! Noone gives a fuck about you, dumbass! You're Zombo's little bitch, little fuckin minion. You're posts aren't even worth reading.
That's why you've read two of them in the past 10 minutes.
To be completely honest, I went back through some of your posts in order to find a stupid one to flame you with...and I was surprised to see that we basically agreed on most everything. So, good on you.
But also fuck you.
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what does the C in CBUS stand for?
cunt?[/quot
You drink, AND LIKE, UFO Belgian white. You're the biggest fucking bitch I've ever heard of! I'm not joking! You're the biggest pussy in the history of men. You drink like a bitch mother fucker. Do you stick your pinky finger out when you take a sip?
I made better beer than UFO's bs when I was 16.
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Just trying to improve the quality of the board so you guys aren't talking to the same 12 people.
So do me a favor and look up some of those yo momma jokes and talk about licking taints and all of that queer shit. After all gays are clever too.
You do make a point though. I will take my business elsewhere because obviously this isn't a place I need to be.
Good luck in life.
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Jamoris Slaughter.
Boom!
Pushing 3 pages.
That's why this place kicks ass.
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