Open Carry
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I saw Jon Steward bring up an interesting point. Combined this with Stand Your Ground. There are a bunch of dudes (or one dude) walking around with big ass guns. You don't know if they're good guys or bad guys. You don't know their intentions. They're walking in to your business, who knows what they're up to. With Stand Your Ground, you are within your right to shoot them then and there because you feel reasonably threatened. You have no duty to see what they are up to first.
I'd laugh if this situation plays out. If one of these douchebags shoots another douchebag because they felt "threatened".
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I doubt that would stand up Woody.
I would imagine any shit bag first year law student could point out that the person with the weapons would probably need to do something threatening before you can shoot him.
I realize how hip it is too freaking out over stand your ground but you really do need to be threatened before you can respond.
WSS
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I doubt that would stand up Woody.
I would imagine any shit bag first year law student could point out that the person with the weapons would probably need to do something threatening before you can shoot him.
I realize how hip it is too freaking out over stand your ground but you really do need to be threatened before you can respond.
WSS
I doubt that would stand up Woody.
I would imagine any shit bag first year law student could point out that the person with the weapons would probably need to do something threatening before you can shoot him.
I realize how hip it is too freaking out over stand your ground but you really do need to be threatened before you can respond.
WSS
I do believe you are correct. You can't shoot someone just because they are carrying a gun. Carrying a gun, in its self, is NOT considered a threat. Now if you are carrying it in your hands and pointing it a people, that's another story. But if the gun is on your hip or across your back, it is NOT a threat.
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You did a good job in the previous post, woody, except you drug that subject into a
different subject ...again.
But simply walking around with a hammer doesn't mean somebody is going to use it on you.
Emminent danger of lethal or serious physical injury.
That Stand Your Ground scenerio isn't one. No eminence. The store owner had better
have a security video camera in use....
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There is a clear legal distinction between "carrying" a firearm, and "brandishing" a firearm.
As a CHP carrier, you're expected and permitted to respond accordingly. (Responding to the latter is permissible and considered self defense, responding to the former is against the law).
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You did a good job in the previous post, woody, except you drug that subject into a
different subject ...again.
But simply walking around with a hammer doesn't mean somebody is going to use it on you.
Emminent danger of lethal or serious physical injury.
That Stand Your Ground scenerio isn't one. No eminence. The store owner had better
have a security video camera in use....
You did a good job in the previous post, woody, except you drug that subject into a
different subject ...again.
But simply walking around with a hammer doesn't mean somebody is going to use it on you.
Emminent danger of lethal or serious physical injury.
That Stand Your Ground scenerio isn't one. No eminence. The store owner had better
have a security video camera in use....
It was an analogy. Keep up.
Hammers generally have other uses. Like, idk, hammering a nail. A gun pretty much just does one thing.
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
You did a good job in the previous post, woody, except you drug that subject into a
different subject ...again.
But simply walking around with a hammer doesn't mean somebody is going to use it on you.
Emminent danger of lethal or serious physical injury.
That Stand Your Ground scenerio isn't one. No eminence. The store owner had better
have a security video camera in use....
It was an analogy. Keep up.
Hammers generally have other uses. Like, idk, hammering a nail. A gun pretty much just does one thing.
It was an analogy. Keep up.
Hammers generally have other uses. Like, idk, hammering a nail. A gun pretty much just does one thing.
When do you start working? Summer vacation is over. Time for the adulthood to kick in.
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ROF,LMAO !!!!
One more reason why I don't drink at the computer anymore. New computer, new keyboard......
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If you're working the counter at a gas station, its late at night, and a dude comes walking in with a gun around his shoulder. You feel threatened and shoot in self defense. Did you break the law?
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You did a good job in the previous post, woody, except you drug that subject into a
different subject ...again.
But simply walking around with a hammer doesn't mean somebody is going to use it on you.
Emminent danger of lethal or serious physical injury.
That Stand Your Ground scenerio isn't one. No eminence. The store owner had better
have a security video camera in use....
It was an analogy. Keep up.
Hammers generally have other uses. Like, idk, hammering a nail. A gun pretty much just does one thing.
A gun could be used for protection or for hunting or for target practice or as a collectible item or, of course, to rob a store or shoot someone.It was an analogy. Keep up.
Hammers generally have other uses. Like, idk, hammering a nail. A gun pretty much just does one thing.
Let's say that you are in a physical altercation with another student or coworker. Would you prefer he had a hammer or not?
WSS
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All of those things you mentioned have one thing in common: Harming something else.
(You can collect anything. If you just want to collect guns, have at it).
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All of those things you mentioned have one thing in common: Harming something else.
(You can collect anything. If you just want to collect guns, have at it).
You made a stupid comparison and now you want to tap dance? Ok woody. In your world if a guy walks in with a hammer you should shoot him because he probably wants to beat you over the head with it and rob his store.All of those things you mentioned have one thing in common: Harming something else.
(You can collect anything. If you just want to collect guns, have at it).
Cripes
WSS
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Yes. There was NO real threat of immediate danger. Now, if the person started to use it
in a threatening manner, toward the clerk, then the clerk has a right to pull his gun
and warn that he'd better put that gun back down and get out.
It's all about timing and circumstance. If he's going to shoot the place up, is rambling
incoherently, and says he's going to kill everybody...
Then, unfortunately, my gun would be drawn and ready as soon as he turned toward me and
didn't drop his gun.
Actually, any time you have your gun serviced, you carry it into the gun shop, get a sticker on it.
They always ask if it's unloaded, which is really sad that some idiots didn't already make sure.
A clerk told me a few stories one day.
Some guy came in, with a ddl barrel shotgun, said it was time to trade it in on a new rifle for his son
for Christmas. Well, the front desk asked if his gun was unloaded, and he looked at them, opened
the breech, and two old shells popped out.
Another time, an older lady came in, got a sticker at the front desk after saying of course it wasn't loaded,
and at the back, in the conversation with the clerk, she got annoyed and said "what am I supposed to do
with this thing? My husband died two years ago, and I don't like guns !".....
while waving it around as she spoke, talking "with her hands", sometimes towards the clerks as it went around,
they ducked.... And the gun went off. She dropped it,
fainted, and I don't know the rest of the story.
But in neither case, was there any intent to cause any harm at all. But, I wonder what an off duty, or on duty
police officer would have done to the old lady. Grabbed her arm at close range, I guess.
I think the latter would be "unintentionally brandishing", which is against the law...?
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Too late then. He's already got the drop on you. Shoot him in the face first ask questions later. That's what Zimmerman would do.
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Too late then. He's already got the drop on you. Shoot him in the face first ask questions later. That's what Zimmerman would do.
Too late then. He's already got the drop on you. Shoot him in the face first ask questions later. That's what Zimmerman would do.
Zimmerman would leave the store then come back and shoot the open carrier.
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Meanwhile... a journalist looked into the anti gun org stats on mass shootings in schools:
and:
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The thing that still amazes me, from those on the pro gun side, is that they seem to not understand (or choose not to) the fundamental difference between a gun and a car, knife, hammer, pressure cooker, etc. Sure, it sounds good in your head for argument's sake... but I'm not sure how it is proving any point. A gun's primary purpose is to harm something else. All of those items listed have a primary purpose that doesn't involve harming others.
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
The thing that still amazes me, from those on the pro gun side, is that they seem to not understand (or choose not to) the fundamental difference between a gun and a car, knife, hammer, pressure cooker, etc. Sure, it sounds good in your head for argument's sake... but I'm not sure how it is proving any point. A gun's primary purpose is to harm something else. All of those items listed have a primary purpose that doesn't involve harming others.
The thing that still amazes me, from those on the pro gun side, is that they seem to not understand (or choose not to) the fundamental difference between a gun and a car, knife, hammer, pressure cooker, etc. Sure, it sounds good in your head for argument's sake... but I'm not sure how it is proving any point. A gun's primary purpose is to harm something else. All of those items listed have a primary purpose that doesn't involve harming others.
So if you actually believe what you are saying how could you not demand a total ban?
Why would society ever consider allowing a device with no other purpose than to hurt and kill people
Seriously.
WSS
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OK here's the deal, stop the bad guys having guns (by cracking down on the black market, introducing all your favourite background checks and mental illness exclusions etc), and actually do it well, meaning that people don't feel the need to carry, either openly or concealed, a firearm of some kind. Then you can get back to actually using them for the things that you can legitimately claim as good usage - recreational things like hunting and range shooting etc., there's no problem with having guns for these IMO.
It's not a difficult concept, but it hinges on good execution, including having people in charge that aren't corrupt (which may be tricky to find in America
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What would you each do to reduce the killing sprees that you guys seem to have on a shockingly regular basis?
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