Changing of the guard
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I will give you that may play a part.....but not to the degree we are talking about.
Football is still football.
Wimbley had a full run under RAC...and he hasn't improved.
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Phillip loved Pool because he loved all the Okie boys he brought in. Pool is talented, but just seems to lack the true instincts. I'm not sure how much longer we can wait around on him to be an impact player. He's certainly can be a contributor in the secondary in many various zone schemes, but as far as a guy who can make the big play or big hit and be consistent, I'm beginning to doubt it.
Believing Wimbley is going to get better is wishful thinking IMO and part of the problem with this franchise the last ten years. We never seem to figure out that a guy can't play regardless of all the proof on the field. There is constantly a hope they will magically turn it around and live up to their billing, so we dick around and lose valuable years grooming the wrong guys.
I think Aaron agrees with me that Wimbley just doesn't have it. The league solved him quicker than hell. I've never seen a guy with worse balance in my life with so much athletic ability. He's also a horrific tackler and can be consumed by one blocker.
Phillip loved Pool because he loved all the Okie boys he brought in. Pool is talented, but just seems to lack the true instincts. I'm not sure how much longer we can wait around on him to be an impact player. He's certainly can be a contributor in the secondary in many various zone schemes, but as far as a guy who can make the big play or big hit and be consistent, I'm beginning to doubt it.
Believing Wimbley is going to get better is wishful thinking IMO and part of the problem with this franchise the last ten years. We never seem to figure out that a guy can't play regardless of all the proof on the field. There is constantly a hope they will magically turn it around and live up to their billing, so we dick around and lose valuable years grooming the wrong guys.
I think Aaron agrees with me that Wimbley just doesn't have it. The league solved him quicker than hell. I've never seen a guy with worse balance in my life with so much athletic ability. He's also a horrific tackler and can be consumed by one blocker.
Head on Riff..poole lacks instinct in a serious way..
Instincts can only be coached to development so far its generally something a player either has or doesnt have...
We have been rebuilding since 1964, Why stop now? GO BROWNS! -
I agree with John's premise but gotta go with Peen. There are just too many instances of guys not getting it done, yet we constantly hear how they will be greatly improved with a new scheme, better conditioning, etc.
Chaun Thompson was a fifth rounder at best, yet we kept hearing how eventually he'd live up to his second round status. Scheme changes, position changes, none of it mattered that he just wasn't that good. That's just one example, and he wasn't even a starter.
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I will give you that may play a part.....but not to the degree we are talking about.
Football is still football.
Wimbley had a full run under RAC...and he hasn't improved.
I will give you that may play a part.....but not to the degree we are talking about.
Football is still football.
Wimbley had a full run under RAC...and he hasn't improved.
Despite being here only 3 years....Wimbley has played under 2 different DC's...Granthem in '06 and '07...and Tucker in '08.
How many LB coaches has he seen?
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Phillip loved Pool because he loved all the Okie boys he brought in. Pool is talented, but just seems to lack the true instincts. I'm not sure how much longer we can wait around on him to be an impact player. He's certainly can be a contributor in the secondary in many various zone schemes, but as far as a guy who can make the big play or big hit and be consistent, I'm beginning to doubt it.
Believing Wimbley is going to get better is wishful thinking IMO and part of the problem with this franchise the last ten years. We never seem to figure out that a guy can't play regardless of all the proof on the field. There is constantly a hope they will magically turn it around and live up to their billing, so we dick around and lose valuable years grooming the wrong guys.
I think Aaron agrees with me that Wimbley just doesn't have it. The league solved him quicker than hell. I've never seen a guy with worse balance in my life with so much athletic ability. He's also a horrific tackler and can be consumed by one blocker.
Head on Riff..poole lacks instinct in a serious way..
Instincts can only be coached to development so far its generally something a player either has or doesnt have...
Head on Riff..poole lacks instinct in a serious way..
Instincts can only be coached to development so far its generally something a player either has or doesnt have...
I agree....and may even go so far as to say you can't teach them.....or at least at this level.
It's like getting a receiver who can't catch a ball at this point...you aren't going to teach him that at 24 years old...he is as good as he is going to get.....you learn and refine that when you are 9 years old playing in the backyard.
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Head on Riff..poole lacks instinct in a serious way..
Instincts can only be coached to development so far its generally something a player either has or doesnt have...
I agree....and may even go so far as to say you can't teach them.....or at least at this level.
It's like getting a receiver who can't catch a ball at this point...you aren't going to teach him that at 24 years old...he is as good as he is going to get.....you learn and refine that when you are 9 years old playing in the backyard.
I agree....and may even go so far as to say you can't teach them.....or at least at this level.
It's like getting a receiver who can't catch a ball at this point...you aren't going to teach him that at 24 years old...he is as good as he is going to get.....you learn and refine that when you are 9 years old playing in the backyard.
Umm, you mean like Paul "Glue Hands" Hubbard?
Yeah, he was worth two picks. Thanks Phillip.
I hope to God this new regime doesn't spend 3 years trying to teach a guy who can't catch how to catch like they did with Travis Wilson......another of Phil's Okie fetish boys.
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I agree....and may even go so far as to say you can't teach them.....or at least at this level.
It's like getting a receiver who can't catch a ball at this point...you aren't going to teach him that at 24 years old...he is as good as he is going to get.....you learn and refine that when you are 9 years old playing in the backyard.
Umm, you mean like Paul "Glue Hands" Hubbard?
Yeah, he was worth two picks. Thanks Phillip.
I hope to God this new regime doesn't spend 3 years trying to teach a guy who can't catch how to catch like they did with Travis Wilson......another of Phil's Okie fetish boys.
Umm, you mean like Paul "Glue Hands" Hubbard?
Yeah, he was worth two picks. Thanks Phillip.
I hope to God this new regime doesn't spend 3 years trying to teach a guy who can't catch how to catch like they did with Travis Wilson......another of Phil's Okie fetish boys.
Hubbard was a track guy with minimal experience at wr, everyone knew he was a developmental guy that had the size and speed you loked for in a wr.
Those kinds of guys have a better shot at improving than someone who has played wr all their life and can't catch still, so at the time it was a nice bet.
I still say Hubbard has 1 more year for us to practice squad his ass and see if he shows any signs of improvement before we toss him.
WILSON was a waste, third round developmental guy that sucked up a roster spot for 3 seasons and never was good enough to see the field. Your 3rd rounders should be solid starters or capable backups at the absolute minimal by year 3.
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I will give you that may play a part.....but not to the degree we are talking about.
Football is still football.
Wimbley had a full run under RAC...and he hasn't improved.
Despite being here only 3 years....Wimbley has played under 2 different DC's...Granthem in '06 and '07...and Tucker in '08.
How many LB coaches has he seen?
Despite being here only 3 years....Wimbley has played under 2 different DC's...Granthem in '06 and '07...and Tucker in '08.
How many LB coaches has he seen?
It's not coaching IMHO- it's opposing coaching. I'm seriously afraid Wimbley is a one trick pony that's been figured out. Take away his outside speed move and he's average at best. Help me out- did you ever see him beat an OT with an inside power move? And in my book, I've yet to see him succeed in bull rushing anyone.
Just a comment on our linebackers in general. Wasn't our pro bowler Shawn Rodgers supposed to make our linebacking significantly better? Well Rodgers did his job to a T, occupying 2-3 guys on every play. Andra Davis still sucked in my book, Jackson didn't exactly remind me of Brian Urlacher, & Wimbley looked journeyman caliber at best. There be plenty of upgrading to be done there.
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This is a pretty good article. Positive overall, so you gotta like that. Nothing mentioned about our Sorry DL.. so a bit of a (GAPING) hole there in this article (and our defense).. but the focus on the D is correct..that is where the major improvement is needed. Not sure I agree that stallworth cannot be effective in this offense.. He can play the Welker role no problem..he is excellent with the ball in his hands and runs good routes. He was heathier toward the end of the season so should bounce back this year. I think last year was a fluke.. That's my opinion and I'm sticking to it.
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Phillip loved Pool because he loved all the Okie boys he brought in. Pool is talented, but just seems to lack the true instincts. I'm not sure how much longer we can wait around on him to be an impact player. He's certainly can be a contributor in the secondary in many various zone schemes, but as far as a guy who can make the big play or big hit and be consistent, I'm beginning to doubt it.
Believing Wimbley is going to get better is wishful thinking IMO and part of the problem with this franchise the last ten years. We never seem to figure out that a guy can't play regardless of all the proof on the field. There is constantly a hope they will magically turn it around and live up to their billing, so we dick around and lose valuable years grooming the wrong guys.
I think Aaron agrees with me that Wimbley just doesn't have it. The league solved him quicker than hell. I've never seen a guy with worse balance in my life with so much athletic ability. He's also a horrific tackler and can be consumed by one blocker.
Phillip loved Pool because he loved all the Okie boys he brought in. Pool is talented, but just seems to lack the true instincts. I'm not sure how much longer we can wait around on him to be an impact player. He's certainly can be a contributor in the secondary in many various zone schemes, but as far as a guy who can make the big play or big hit and be consistent, I'm beginning to doubt it.
Believing Wimbley is going to get better is wishful thinking IMO and part of the problem with this franchise the last ten years. We never seem to figure out that a guy can't play regardless of all the proof on the field. There is constantly a hope they will magically turn it around and live up to their billing, so we dick around and lose valuable years grooming the wrong guys.
I think Aaron agrees with me that Wimbley just doesn't have it. The league solved him quicker than hell. I've never seen a guy with worse balance in my life with so much athletic ability. He's also a horrific tackler and can be consumed by one blocker.
Damn I swear that was me talking .........no wait nearly two years ago..deja vu all over again
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