Jonathan Paul Manziel
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dude. i've been trying to figure out for the longest what your avatar is. i know there's a strat in it so is someone playing it? eric clapton? it's so flippin small it's hard to see.
Its a Browns wallpaper I made few years ago with a squire strat I actually traded strait up for a real Fender mexican strat last fall. the pic is on Photbucket still I believe.
Its a Browns wallpaper I made few years ago with a squire strat I actually traded strait up for a real Fender mexican strat last fall. the pic is on Photbucket still I believe.
good trade.
back in the late 70s i used to have a fender mustang. think it was a cheaper version of the squire. had to have a fender since my guitar hero david gilmour played one.
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And heres My latest...a knock off strat I frankensteined also...Wich incidently is now My #1 axe.
Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~ -
Can someone explain to me how the MLB draft works? Because SD drafted Manziel in the 28th round....isn't that just wasting their pick at that spot?
Since no one else has answered this question, I'll try. By drafting him, San Diego has the rights to him for 6 years. I understand that the Padres said that they picked him because his athleticism was greater than anyone left on the board at that point. Theoretically, if football didn't work out for JM, he could play baseball for SD. He apparently was offered several bb scholarships for Division 1 schools but wanted to play football instead.
Since no one else has answered this question, I'll try. By drafting him, San Diego has the rights to him for 6 years. I understand that the Padres said that they picked him because his athleticism was greater than anyone left on the board at that point. Theoretically, if football didn't work out for JM, he could play baseball for SD. He apparently was offered several bb scholarships for Division 1 schools but wanted to play football instead.
I think they only get the right to him for a year. Signability is a big factor in the MLB draft since some drafted players don't sign. For example a high school player might get drafted, but may instead to go on to play college ball instead. So if he doesn't sign with the team that drafted him, his name goes back into the draft pool the next year.
You'll see this with younger players who may get drafted in the lower rounds, so they opt to play a year of college ball in the hopes that it raises their stock and nets them a higher draft pick the next year, which usually comes with mo' money.
IF a player signs, then that team holds the rights to him for a longer period of time, and l think that's where the six years comes in.
Thanks. It makes more sense it'd be only one year unless signed. So the potential of getting JM (at that point in the draft) was better than actually signing a player...wow.
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A true Browns fan, ladies and gentlemen.
did we need another JF thread? I just don't want everyone to be so disappointed because he is the savior of the browns. We have been here before. lets watch the fucking kid play before we make him the face of the team!!
I am a real fucking fan thank you very much.
did we need another JF thread? I just don't want everyone to be so disappointed because he is the savior of the browns. We have been here before. lets watch the fucking kid play before we make him the face of the team!!
I am a real fucking fan thank you very much.
Yeah, you sure proved it.
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And heres My latest...a knock off strat I frankensteined also...Wich incidently is now My #1 axe.
And heres My latest...a knock off strat I frankensteined also...Wich incidently is now My #1 axe.
Anyone that says "axe" covers Joe Satriani songs.
Luck is Tim Couch. Big, Dumb Goofy, slow thinking QB - Ghoolie, 2-28-12 -
Anyone that says "axe" covers Joe Satriani songs.
As OJ Simpson said when his son asked him for some money, 'Go axe your mother'.
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So basically... new thread, same old shit...
Jaws visited camp for practice this week that was open to media. His basic comments included:
- Whitfield has worked wonders with JM's delivery; JM now has the kind of high-spin, tight spiral that can cut thru a December wind in CLE.
- Hoyer is light-years ahead of JM when it comes to understanding the offense and executing it; Hoyer will be the starter opening day.
In other words, JM is a rookie.
Johnny Backup
LOL... perfect! Only way to improve would have been to save that for WW's return...
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Since no one else has answered this question, I'll try. By drafting him, San Diego has the rights to him for 6 years. I understand that the Padres said that they picked him because his athleticism was greater than anyone left on the board at that point. Theoretically, if football didn't work out for JM, he could play baseball for SD. He apparently was offered several bb scholarships for Division 1 schools but wanted to play football instead.
I think they only get the right to him for a year. Signability is a big factor in the MLB draft since some drafted players don't sign. For example a high school player might get drafted, but may instead to go on to play college ball instead. So if he doesn't sign with the team that drafted him, his name goes back into the draft pool the next year.
You'll see this with younger players who may get drafted in the lower rounds, so they opt to play a year of college ball in the hopes that it raises their stock and nets them a higher draft pick the next year, which usually comes with mo' money.
IF a player signs, then that team holds the rights to him for a longer period of time, and l think that's where the six years comes in.
Thanks. It makes more sense it'd be only one year unless signed. So the potential of getting JM (at that point in the draft) was better than actually signing a player...wow.
Thanks. It makes more sense it'd be only one year unless signed. So the potential of getting JM (at that point in the draft) was better than actually signing a player...wow.
Yes, I believe ibleedbrown's answer was more complete than mine and I also believe that at that point in the draft the padres were indeed saying that JM potential was worth more than actually signing a player. I take that as a testament to his athleticism.
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JFF's only obstacle to becoming the Browns QB leader is a player who has thrown 192 passes in his five year NFL career; is coming off a serious as cancer injury but whose "play has
been better" in ota/mini. If he has half the abilities touted by his supporters, camp will be a slam dunk for him and he'll be making his debut in Heinz cow pasture September 7. If he can
help/lead the Browns to 2 wins by the time the squeelers come to town.......he will be Cleveland's new cock-of-the-walk.
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I agree that a year holding the clipboard would be better for him...but i think he is a little unique and there is a down side to it. The problem with Manziel sitting is that he freaks out when he has nothing to do. The guy is so competitive that when he has no outlet he starts to do dumb shit...ok dumber shit. Example: look at his red-shirted freshman year.
You mean the year he sat out before he won the Heisman?
If he has half the abilities touted by his supporters, camp will be a slam dunk for him and he'll be making his debut in Heinz cow pasture September 7. If he can help/lead the Browns to 2 wins by the time the squeelers come to town.......he will be Cleveland's new cock-of-the-walk.
I prefer sticking with Hoyer as long as he does not lose games, but fair enough.
Well, back to the topic. Would it surprise you that JFF's name came up as one of the fastest players on the team as mentioned by teammates"?
Must be the Heisman mystique...
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13c. Archie Manning
13 e. Probably medical center - although it is in Hill Country so may be connected with tourism. I looked it up on Wikipedia and nothing listed as #1, just a number of employers.
13c. Archie Manning
13 e. Probably medical center - although it is in Hill Country so may be connected with tourism. I looked it up on Wikipedia and nothing listed as #1, just a number of employers.
Check on Archie.
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2. QB ranked # 14 with 244 career TDs? Hint: Played for the team that Steve McQueen was chasing in Bullit.
Hadl? Was thinking of him before, but did not think he played long enough... then again there was the Sid Gilman factor.
4. Only Johnny in Top 20 in career Ints. Hint: When he played during his recently inducted HOF career, he was usually packing. Sample? Only DB named Johnny that finally came to mind...
10. Name the one DL named John that is in the HOF. Hint: Played mostly for the team that Ragnar Lothbrok would have played for. Is Randall in the HOF?
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
2. QB ranked # 14 with 244 career TDs? Hint: Played for the team that Steve McQueen was chasing in Bullit.
Hadl? Was thinking of him before, but did not think he played long enough... then again there was the Sid Gilman factor.
4. Only Johnny in Top 20 in career Ints. Hint: When he played during his recently inducted HOF career, he was usually packing. Sample? Only DB named Johnny that finally came to mind...
10. Name the one DL named John that is in the HOF. Hint: Played mostly for the team that Ragnar Lothbrok would have played for. Is Randall in the HOF?
2. QB ranked # 14 with 244 career TDs? Hint: Played for the team that Steve McQueen was chasing in Bullit.
Hadl? Was thinking of him before, but did not think he played long enough... then again there was the Sid Gilman factor.
Check on Hadl....and he did have a fairly long career
4. Only Johnny in Top 20 in career Ints. Hint: When he played during his recently inducted HOF career, he was usually packing. Sample? Only DB named Johnny that finally came to mind... NO
10. Name the one DL named John that is in the HOF. Hint: Played mostly for the team that Ragnar Lothbrok would have played for. Is Randall in the HOF? He is, check
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Hospitality/tourism. Kerrville is a hotspot for affluent retirees.
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Hospitality/tourism. Kerrville is a hotspot for affluent retirees.
Hospitality/tourism. Kerrville is a hotspot for affluent retirees.
I suspect my question was a little too narrow.
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Maybe so.
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Well, back to the topic. Would it surprise you that JFF's name came up as one of the fastest players on the team as mentioned by teammates"?
This from Kevin Jones' article wrapping up minicamp:
- We quizzed a bunch of different Browns’ players on who they think is the fastest player on the roster – that fun video will be coming soon. The answers varied between six different people, a fantastic problem to have. The most common names: Andrew Hawkins
, Anthony Armstrong, Buster Skrine, Johnny Manziel andJosh Gordon.
Well, back to the topic. Would it surprise you that JFF's name came up as one of the fastest players on the team as mentioned by teammates"?
This from Kevin Jones' article wrapping up minicamp:
- We quizzed a bunch of different Browns’ players on who they think is the fastest player on the roster – that fun video will be coming soon. The answers varied between six different people, a fantastic problem to have. The most common names: Andrew Hawkins, Anthony Armstrong, Buster Skrine, Johnny Manziel andJosh Gordon.
yeah saw that yesterday. think z posted it.
pretty impressive and yes it did surprise me. last year before his injury t. benjamin was the fastest by far.
There's track speed and game speed. MHO is Manziel is more quick than fast. FWIW, I don't think I've seen Gordon get caught from behind yet once he gets a head of steam up.
Finally, regarding speed- it was one of the primary reasons I was really hesitant about Trent Richardson's ability to cut it in the pros. There were plenty of clips of him getting caught from behind in college- you never saw that happen with guys like Adrian Peterson, Ladanian Tomlinson, and Barry Sanders.
- We quizzed a bunch of different Browns’ players on who they think is the fastest player on the roster – that fun video will be coming soon. The answers varied between six different people, a fantastic problem to have. The most common names: Andrew Hawkins
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TRANSLATION: "Nice kid, nothing personal, fun to watch in college, really good college player, not an NFL starting QB."
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And heres My latest...a knock off strat I frankensteined also...Wich incidently is now My #1 axe.
And heres My latest...a knock off strat I frankensteined also...Witch incidentally is now My #1 axe.
Since you're talking guitars, if I ever hit the lottery, I want to get a white Strat- after my hero Jimi Hendrix. Like Hendrix, I play left handed (badly). However, Mr. Stubby fingers can't reach the last couple of frets- Jimi had freakishly long fingers. FWIW I have an old Gretch double cutaway that I haven't picked up in a real long time.
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TRANSLATION: "Nice kid, nothing personal, fun to watch in college, really good college player, not an NFL starting QB."
TRANSLATION: "Nice kid, nothing personal, fun to watch in college, really good college player, not an NFL starting QB."
They may be doing what some Browns fans suggested in the past draft- build the team, and draft the franchise qb last. The Texans should have a good enough defense that it will keep them in a lot of games.
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