Jonathan Paul Manziel
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well done sir.
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@everlastingxxx said:
I think being a Manziel fan makes me lose faith in humanity. Those that have no life sit around and judge him for everything he does. Really none of this has any bearing on his success on the field. If these type of things get you upset i feel sorry for you because you must live a very depressing and sad life.
I guess that is the problem....we have not seen him do diddly squat on the field...at least not on our behalf....yet. All we are getting are these TMZ type vignettes about him that have nothing to do with football.
I don't really care what he does outside of the football field.
You see, I am not a fan of "him"....."him" the personality. I have no particular interest in "him the personality" one way or the other. Whether he parties or doesn't, I don't care. I will be a fan of him, the quarterback of the Cleveland Browns.....if and when he actually gets on the field and does something for this team.
Nothing he did before he joined the Cleveland Browns matters to me. I am not a Texas A&M fan. I am not a Johnny Manziel fan. I am a Cleveland Browns fan. That is all that matters....that he bring the Cleveland Browns to victory.
If he had been drafted by some other team he would be nothing to me. He would be on a par with Jason White or Eric Crouch or whatever nondescript QB you want to name.
I am in his corner now because he plays for the Cleveland Browns.
He can sit on the bench here for the next 3 years and as long as the Browns are winning, that is OK.
Or he can start and play well....and as long as the Browns are winning, that also is OK.
I mean, we have had other Okies play here (and Texans are just glorified Okies)....who once they left are dead to us....like McCoy and Weeden. If JFF fails and sucks swamp water and is shown the door, he too will be dead to us.
But, if he wins....well, you must know by now how we glorify our winning QBs, like Bernie Kosar and Brian Sipe and OG etc.
He will be glorified........and truthfully, that is what we all want.
I mean, we have had other Okies play here (and Texans are just glorified Okies)....
Fuck you for that.
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Browns reached agreement with QB Johnny Manziel (see him in cash pose now).
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@everlastingxxx said:
I dont live off anything Johnny does off the field. I look at them, chuckle and move on. I see a kid being a kid. Making a joke and nothing more. If you guys want to micromanage his every exploit, go ahead. I personally think its a sad state we live in. I am just happy that Coach Pettine doesnt share the same perspective as many here. BTW, if someone can judge another, they too can be judged.
Yeah- and Justin Beiber is just a kid being a kid too. Manziel hasn't taken it quite that far, admittedly. Um, the NFL is the Big Boy League, not some A&M frat party. JF can do as he pleases- that doesn't mean some of us can't have an unfavorable opinion of his antics. It was one of the primary reasons I was against the Browns drafting him. He's part of the Browns now, so I really hope he can live up to his on field reputation. When Pettine gets concerned, I'll get concerned. However- experience has shown me being a major party animal will catch up with you eventually.
@everlastingxxx said:
That one is pretty over the top.
You better get used to it, players on other teams trying to lay a major hit on him, because of his reputation. Couple of guys are already on record they'd like nothing better.
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Do I care that he did the money phone? Nope, but as was pointed out elsewhere, Merriweather didn't pull that stunt before his first pro fight.
You had better not get shit-faced the night before a game either and show up hung over, kiddo. That would get me pissed off.
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This is getting kind of dooshy now. I was onboard with everything he was doing up till this point. He's not just partying, he's getting shit faced drunk and saying/doing some really stupid shit infront of camera's. Getting your picture taken with ass all around you, I'm all for it. If he's still stealing off to party towns in August, Browns have a problem.
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This is getting kind of dooshy now. I was onboard with everything he was doing up till this point. He's not just partying, he's getting shit faced drunk and saying/doing some really stupid shit infront of camera's. Getting your picture taken with ass all around you, I'm all for it. If he's still stealing off to party towns in August, Browns have a problem.
He's not just partying, he's getting shit faced drunk and saying/doing some really stupid shit infront of camera's. Getting your picture taken with ass all around you, I'm all for it. If he's still stealing off to party towns in August, Browns have a problem.
So, the potential FACE of the Cleveland Franchise is going to be a 'shit faced drunk', and everyone seem to be 'cool da la' with this?
Name me one god damn successful NFL QB that parties like this??!?!?
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And somewhere Brian Hoyer is smiling... shaking his head, but smiling...
Zombo said:
I seriously have got no problem with this. I think the NFL is ready for another Kenny Stabler "Party hard, win big on Sundays" type. If he can pull it off, it'll be great. Pettine doesn't seem concerned. He's 21. He's drinking, gambling (I assume) and partying with hot blondes when he's not working ... OK.
Z, times change. There's a reason there hasn't been another Stabler in 30 years. Pettine hasn't been concerned, but as more stuff comes out, that can change.
And there's nothing a Commissioner loves more than a "future face of the league" gambling.
Boys don't give a fuck, men do.
Yup... it's a maturity thang, y'all...
Z, times change. There's a reason there hasn't been another Stabler in 30 years.
Those guys started five of the last nine Super Bowls.
How old was Roethlisberger when he finally "settled down"? 27?
Johnny is 21. His body will figure it out after a few years. In the mean time, I'm OK with Johnny being Johnny.
Zombo
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Z, times change. There's a reason there hasn't been another Stabler in 30 years.
Those guys started five of the last nine Super Bowls.
How old was Roethlisberger when he finally "settled down"? 27?
Johnny is 21. His body will figure it out after a few years. In the mean time, I'm OK with Johnny being Johnny.
Zombo
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Signed.
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Signed.
Signed.
Since that is actual news, and this thread went South fast, we'll start another Johnny thread ... two at once ... twice the fun!
Zombo
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http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11097156/johnny-manziel-agrees-rookie-deal-cleveland-browns
Johnny Manziel has agreed to terms on a contract with the Cleveland Browns, the team announced Tuesday.
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Nick Cammett/Diamond Images/Getty ImagesJohnny Manziel will begin training camp second on the Browns' quarterback depth chart to incumbent starter Brian Hoyer.Manziel, the 22nd overall selection in the draft, will compete with Brian Hoyerto be the team's starting quarterback.
Terms were not released, but the NFL rookie wage scale projected Manziel's deal to be worth about $8.25 million for four years. Like all first-round picks, his contract also includes a fifth-year team option.
Manziel's NFL income may actually pale in comparison to his endorsement income, especially from Nike. Manziel signed a multiyear deal with Nike in March, and the company very soon after started selling Manziel apparel similar to what he wore at his NFL pro day workout in front of fans. Maverick Carter, the marketing manager for LeBron James' management team of LRMR, is representing Manziel for his marketing and endorsement deals.
Manziel threw for 7,820 yards with 63 touchdowns and 22 interceptions in two seasons at Texas A&M. He also ran for 2,160 yards and had 30 touchdowns. In his first season in 2012, he became the first freshman to win the Heisman Trophy.
But when Browns training camp opens in late July, he will have to win the starting job. Browns coach Mike Pettine already has said Hoyer will be the starter when training camp opens.
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I mean, we have had other Okies play here (and Texans are just glorified Okies)....
Fuck you for that.Oooh, touched a sensative nerve there, eh.
OK, give us the differences between Texans and Okies....if you think I am so off base. -
Yeehaw.....now play football like we think you can.
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Signed.
Since that is actual news, and this thread went South fast, we'll start another Johnny thread ... two at once ... twice the fun!
Zombo
Zombo said:
Since that is actual news, and this thread went South fast, we'll start another Johnny thread ... two at once ... twice the fun!
Zombo
Uggg, I've stayed away because all of the Johnny nobs
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