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  • Not to mention he had a (D) next to his name and we know that is the root of all evil. If he had an ® next to his name, he would have made the same decisions but you would have justified all of his actions.

    @logicisforsquares said:

    Not to mention he had a (D) next to his name and we know that is the root of all evil. If he had an ® next to his name, he would have made the same decisions but you would have justified all of his actions.

    of course

  • Do you guys all soaked in Egypt think

    my post was incorrect? That fdr was a saint

    for entitlement spending, screwing up the economy,

    and the rest?

    Little sarcastic replies just means you don't

    have a clue to argue with the content of the post/thread.

  • FDR is widely considered one of the five best American presidents of all time and also one of the best wartime leaders. The new deal is undoubtedly a sum of everything you hate about everything. I won't pretend to be an expert on the new deal but my guess is that world war 2 ended the depression more than anything any politician could have done.

  • FDR was an entitlement wonk, a power hungry would-be-monarch,

    and economic dipstick who did America a ton of economic damage.

    He was as arrogant and dishonest and manipulative, moreso, than any other

    president in our history.

    Except Obamao is ranking just as bad, leaning on FDR's desperation for more and more\

    power, using entitlements to get it.

    http://the-thought-that-counts.blogspot.com/2012/01/why-fdr-was-americas-worst-president.html

    Furthermore, FDR was set on embargoing goods and services to Japan, while Japan

    was in an all out war setting to build their empire. He stupidly tried to take

    the small, slow route to stopping Japan.

    And the Japanese got po'd, and hit Pearl Harbor.

    And WWII? The one good think FDR did, was to give our generals the authority to run the war.

    At least he listened to them.

    However......."Roosevelt said misleadingly that he would not send American boys to fight in foreign wars."

  • If Obama is just as bad as the longest serving and consensus top five presidents of all time (often selected above founding fathers such as Washington and Jefferson, but always behind the g.o.a.t. Lincoln) then he's doing alright.

  • Do you guys all soaked in Egypt think

    my post was incorrect? That fdr was a saint

    for entitlement spending, screwing up the economy,

    and the rest?

    Little sarcastic replies just means you don't

    have a clue to argue with the content of the post/thread.

    @calfoxwc said:

    Little sarcastic replies just means you don't

    have a clue to argue with the content of the post/thread.

    Oh wow... if only we held you to this standard... hahaha

  • I didn't say he was completely unpopular. He did good things.

    He also did bad things. He lied. Tried to take over our gov via the supreme court,

    but failed.

    His refusal to act sooner with following up on the bombing, gave the nazis

    the time to exterminate Jews tenfold.

    He wasn't all that in some ways. But giving out free stuff and bigger gov does get

    you popular votes. Until the roof falls in.

    http://www.dsusd.k12.ca.us/users/scottsh/Roosevelt%20foreign%20policy.htm

  • Posted Today, 10:20 PM

    FDR was an entitlement wonk, a power hungry would-be-monarch,

    and economic dipstick who did America a ton of economic damage.

    He was as arrogant and dishonest and manipulative, moreso, than any other

    president in our history.

    Except Obamao is ranking just as bad, leaning on FDR's desperation for more and more\

    power, using entitlements to get it.

    http://the-thought-t...-president.html

    Furthermore, FDR was set on embargoing goods and services to Japan, while Japan

    was in an all out war setting to build their empire. He stupidly tried to take

    the small, slow route to stopping Japan.

    And the Japanese got po'd, and hit Pearl Harbor.

    And WWII? The one good think FDR did, was to give our generals the authority to run the war.

    At least he listened to them.

    However......."Roosevelt said misleadingly that he would not send American boys to fight in foreign wars."

  • So FDR is responsible for the Holocaust? Typical liberal behavior if you ask me.

  • So FDR is responsible for the Holocaust? Typical liberal behavior if you ask me.

    @the-cysko-kid said:

    So FDR is responsible for the Holocaust? Typical liberal behavior if you ask me.

    Part of their anti-semitic agenda!

  • Come on, Cysko, you are being stupid about it.

    It's simply that FDR was reluctant to get involved, then ,

    delayed too long with the bombing, and despite openly

    LIEING that he wouldn't send our troops over there to fight

    in a foreign war, to get elected,

    he had no choice but to go ahead and do it.

    All in all, he did some good things. But he really was an arrogant dipstick,

    who thrived on the power he could get by hook or crook.

    The point about the Holocaust, was his delay in getting involved, which

    was a political decision as the article explained, because he valued his

    personal agenda over everything and anything else. Until, he had to

    man up and go with the truth about WWII.

  • Do you guys all soaked in Egypt think

    my post was incorrect? That fdr was a saint

    for entitlement spending, screwing up the economy,

    and the rest?

    Little sarcastic replies just means you don't

    have a clue to argue with the content of the post/thread.

    @calfoxwc said:

    Do you guys all soaked in Egypt think

    my post was incorrect? That fdr was a saint

    for entitlement spending, screwing up the economy,

    and the rest?

    Little sarcastic replies just means you don't

    have a clue to argue with the content of the post/thread.

    I just posted a quote that was ACTUALLY said by the person I was quoting.

    And, as usual, you went off the rails, because it was said by a Democrat

    You must live an awful life, to be soooooooooooooo jaded.

  • If Obama is just as bad as the longest serving and consensus top five presidents of all time (often selected above founding fathers such as Washington and Jefferson, but always behind the g.o.a.t. Lincoln) then he's doing alright.

    @the-cysko-kid said:

    If Obama is just as bad as the longest serving and consensus top five presidents of all time (often selected above founding fathers such as Washington and Jefferson, but always behind the g.o.a.t. Lincoln) then he's doing alright.

    Come on Kid, how can ANY President be in the top 5 all time if he was a Democrat?

  • FDR fucked a lot of things up by starting [dubiously] well meaning programs that have since gotten even more in efficient. And WW2 ended the depression.

    WSS

  • Exactly. He had major flaws and screwups in his presidency.

    Set the stage, all these years later, for Obamao to be

    about eh...3 times worse?.