Cameron
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Based on the free agent link you posted he was the only Brown coming up as a free agent next year. So if the Browns don't go batshit crazy in free agency or something, locking him up shouldn't be a problem, right?
Do you think we could pull off a move like they did with Mack and basically let another team do the negotiating for us?
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Cameron has to get done, whilst we are all semi-delusional about how well the receiver corps who we don't know will perform, Cameron is, like Zombo said, a known quantity that will deliver. Without him we are at best 2 dimensional on offense, whether we tag and bag next year or cough up this, surely the FO will get this done.
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Based on the free agent link you posted he was the only Brown coming up as a free agent next year. So if the Browns don't go batshit crazy in free agency or something, locking him up shouldn't be a problem, right?
Do you think we could pull off a move like they did with Mack and basically let another team do the negotiating for us?
Based on the free agent link you posted he was the only Brown coming up as a free agent next year. So if the Browns don't go batshit crazy in free agency or something, locking him up shouldn't be a problem, right?
Do you think we could pull off a move like they did with Mack and basically let another team do the negotiating for us?
No, we will do what the Saints did.
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Based on the free agent link you posted he was the only Brown coming up as a free agent next year. So if the Browns don't go batshit crazy in free agency or something, locking him up shouldn't be a problem, right?
Do you think we could pull off a move like they did with Mack and basically let another team do the negotiating for us?
No, we will do what the Saints did.
No, we will do what the Saints did.
Cameron has changed his Twitter bio from "Tight end" to "Pass Catcher" ... so buckle down, could be a long battle.
Zombo
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No, we will do what the Saints did.
Cameron has changed his Twitter bio from "Tight end" to "Pass Catcher" ... so buckle down, could be a long battle.
Zombo
Zombo said:
Cameron has changed his Twitter bio from "Tight end" to "Pass Catcher" ... so buckle down, could be a long battle.
Zombo
He's still a TE regardless. That just removes a written admission. Teams will now require a signed position designation for future contracts.
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No, we will do what the Saints did.
Cameron has changed his Twitter bio from "Tight end" to "Pass Catcher" ... so buckle down, could be a long battle.
Zombo
Zombo said:
Cameron has changed his Twitter bio from "Tight end" to "Pass Catcher" ... so buckle down, could be a long battle.
Zombo
Pretty sure he did it more as a joke than anything. There's no disputing that he is a tight end.
I wouldn't be surprised if his agent tried to fight for top 5 TE money, but I don't know how much he has to stand on after one breakout season. If he can perform at the same level this year, I think he would absolutely deserve it.
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It'll be great if we can lock him up but let's face it, if he exceeds last year's number it's going to cost a bundle to keep him and unless we are contenders i don't see us ponying up the money for him.
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Grahams is going to come in around $10MM a year. If Cameron has a monster year he will demand north of that.
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We will try to sign him in mid season depending on what he does. He still has to play this year so I am not too worried about it.
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Guess I am the only one that would like to see him show what he showed in 2013 again... confirm his "breakout year"... especially before I started considering Graham or Davis type, top-5 money.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Guess I am the only one that would like to see him show what he showed in 2013 again... confirm his "breakout year"... especially before I started considering Graham or Davis type, top-5 money.
Guess I am the only one that would like to see him show what he showed in 2013 again... confirm his "breakout year"... especially before I started considering Graham or Davis type, top-5 money.
No, you are not.
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"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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Guess I am the only one that would like to see him show what he showed in 2013 again... confirm his "breakout year"... especially before I started considering Graham or Davis type, top-5 money.
Amen to that. Pay 10-12 mil a year for another PH? No thanks. I'm not saying he is a fluke, I think he has huge talent. We just need to see a little more than one year to pay someone top 5 or even top 10 moneyGuess I am the only one that would like to see him show what he showed in 2013 again... confirm his "breakout year"... especially before I started considering Graham or Davis type, top-5 money.
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I disagree with the league ruling. I think it is very obvious the tight end position has evolved into two distinctly different roles. Those roles in my mind are very different and should command different values. These guys that are catching as many passes as Graham and getting paid like a blocking TE are getting screwed.
If Cameron is as good or better than last year especially in light of the Gordon situation he will be worth every penny of the tag and honestly every penny of the $10MM a year it will cost on a deal.
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Lock him up cheap now before he has a potential break out season being our number one target and all. He can't command 10 mil a season currently.
After the season, hopefully (meaning he did work and we're in the playoff running,) he can.
With that said, I doubt he would even consider signing up long term yet. Just doesn't make sense. All this JG nonsense has made him that much more valuable. If he has even a decent season, he can double his value. Considering how Reed, a rook, did last year in this system, Cameron's got to be psyched.
Plus a TE is a young QB's best friend.
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Lock him up cheap now before he has a potential break out season being our number one target and all. He can't command 10 mil a season currently.
After the season, hopefully (meaning he did work and we're in the playoff running,) he can.
With that said, I doubt he would even consider signing up long term yet. Just doesn't make sense. All this JG nonsense has made him that much more valuable. If he has even a decent season, he can double his value. Considering how Reed, a rook, did last year in this system, Cameron's got to be psyched.
Plus a TE is a young QB's best friend.
Plus a TE is a young QB's best friend.
I expect that during training camp he will work out secondary routes with JM similar to the relationship Manziel had with Mike Evans. JM would find a way to extend the play with his legs and Evans (and others) would take off on new secondary routes, often with subtle signals in advance of the play from the LOS depending upon the D they were seeing. Those who say JM was not good at progressions have no idea what he was really doing as often he would take off watching on the run for the secondary routes because he knew the primaries were covered.
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Plus a TE is a young QB's best friend.
I expect that during training camp he will work out secondary routes with JM similar to the relationship Manziel had with Mike Evans. JM would find a way to extend the play with his legs and Evans (and others) would take off on new secondary routes, often with subtle signals in advance of the play from the LOS depending upon the D they were seeing. Those who say JM was not good at progressions have no idea what he was really doing as often he would take off watching on the run for the secondary routes because he knew the primaries were covered.
I expect that during training camp he will work out secondary routes with JM similar to the relationship Manziel had with Mike Evans. JM would find a way to extend the play with his legs and Evans (and others) would take off on new secondary routes, often with subtle signals in advance of the play from the LOS depending upon the D they were seeing. Those who say JM was not good at progressions have no idea what he was really doing as often he would take off watching on the run for the secondary routes because he knew the primaries were covered.
Fascinating...
Could revolutionize the NFL...
Now tell us about the tertiary routes...
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I expect that during training camp he will work out secondary routes with JM similar to the relationship Manziel had with Mike Evans. JM would find a way to extend the play with his legs and Evans (and others) would take off on new secondary routes, often with subtle signals in advance of the play from the LOS depending upon the D they were seeing. Those who say JM was not good at progressions have no idea what he was really doing as often he would take off watching on the run for the secondary routes because he knew the primaries were covered.
Fascinating...
Could revolutionize the NFL...
Now tell us about the tertiary routes...
Now tell us about the tertiary routes...
Those are all directly to the bank.
What I described above was something Kevin Sumlin's OC worked on with JM and his receivers all the time in practice. They knew he had that ability with his feet and moves to extend plays well beyond the normal time to get rid of the ball. I didn't make that stuff up. It was incorporated in practices daily. His "playground" abilities were utilized by his coaches to the max and it led to the Heisman and to his OC that year to the head coaching job at Texas Tech in 2013.
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