Josh Gordon Troubles
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Well 'Peen you were right. Goodell & the NFL will certainly show him no mercy now. I'd expect the Browns to put him on the "reserve non football injury" list to keep his rights- in the unlikely event he can keep himself clean in the year (at least) suspension that's coming. Could be indefinite.
No PG- it's worse- way worse than that. Even if he was sober as a judge- the report is he was doing 50 in a 35 zone, on a holiday weekend, that's enough to get anyone pulled over. That makes three speeding tickets. (at least) One of which was doing 98 mph. You can bet on the last speeding bust with weed in the car (how dumb is that?) - he was doing more than the reported 74 in a 60 zone- the cop cut him a huge break so he wouldn't get his license suspended for yet another reckless operation doing more that 15 over the limit. He should have been driving like the little old lady on her way to Church.
Considering the circumstances- he he had no business in the world getting behind the wheel after having as much as one drink. As I said before, every NFL player has the 800# limo hotline to get a ride to wherever if there's as much as any question about drunk or stoned driving.
& finally, he's in the NFL substance abuse program. I'm near certain a DUI will get you another strike. He just gave himself strikes three and four.
Nickers- it's just that some of us understand alcoholics better than others. You see guys getting busted 6-7 times for DUI, driving without a license, winding up in jail for a year or so, and it doesn't stop them. The guy has serious, serious addictive problems. The best thing he could do right now is check into Betty Ford.
You dont have to preach to Me about alcoholism..My father was an alcoholic..I know well the dangers of alcohol ,having grown up in a family bar and restaraunt business. And I agree the kid needs to get serious help. But remember. There are reasons why people drink,Do drugs, etc. Not saying it is excusable by any means. But,let's get all the info first before just totally damming the person and hope he does not create a bigger problem for himself.
@slowburn said:
Maybe you should hit some more meetings......jfs
I decided to have a booze-free 4th.
You dont have to preach to Me about alcoholism..My father was an alcoholic..I know well the dangers of alcohol ,having grown up in a family bar and restaraunt business. And I agree the kid needs to get serious help. But remember. There are reasons why people drink,Do drugs, etc. Not saying it is excusable by any means. But,let's get all the info first before just totally damming the person and hope he does not create a bigger problem for himself.
I'm not totally damning the person- but sheeze Louise, how many more incidents do we need here to form an opinion? Multiple failed drug tests in college. At least one in the NFL, then the codeine incident. Then another one on top of that. Now a (probable- OK innocent until proven guilty) DUI after multiple cases of stupid driving. You think Goodell is going to care much even if he gets off on a technicality?
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you can't fix dumb.
you know you're having a hearing in front of the league in a couple of weeks. you got booted off your college team for pissing positive. you got popped twice since in the league. you might have had a fighting chance for a reduced suspension if you could have just played it clean for another 2 freakin weeks.
that is just dumb.
weed is not an addictive drug, i don't care what anyone says. this is the first time we've heard of him getting in trouble with alcohol and it was barely over the legal limit, so we can't call him an alcoholic.
what you can call him is an empowered kid (because of money now) with talent that wants to be pimp daddy king in front of his friends. so how is rehab going to help that? maybe if his parents would have done a better job raising him and helping him understand how to pick out good friends, he wouldn't be society's problem now. i guarantee you his family was fucked, but so was mine and if someone was to offer me millions of dollars for my talents i'd be so squeaky clean the sun would squint at me.
let him work at circle K for his weed money. on a positive note......at least he's not a serial killer.
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Consequences - hard life lesson that Gordon will just have to learn.
too bad.
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Man, I feel bad for Josh. The kid just can't catch a break. He obviously went to drinking to get away from the weed, so he could play this year, then he probably was having a good time and realized that he shouldn't drive until his buzz went down. He probably thought that he was good after a good bit, then he gets pulled over and he's just a fraction over the LEGAL LIMIT... unfuckingbelievable. Josh has some bad luck, I'll admit that he appears to come by it honestly.
This looks a lot worse than it really is.
Maybe, now he'll be forced to get a driver to take him places.
Man, I feel bad for Josh. The kid just can't catch a break. He obviously went to drinking to get away from the weed, so he could play this year, then he probably was having a good time and realized that he shouldn't drive until his buzz went down. He probably thought that he was good after a good bit, then he gets pulled over and he's just a fraction over the LEGAL LIMIT... unfuckingbelievable. Josh has some bad luck, I'll admit that he appears to come by it honestly.
This looks a lot worse than it really is.
Maybe, now he'll be forced to get a driver to take him places.
Are you kidding me? "Bad luck" & "can't catch a break"?? WTF?? The druggo piece of shit is in full control of what he is doing to himself, his teammates, his coaches, the organization and us fans. "Bad luck" and "can't catch a break" are reserved for those with brain cancer, leukemia, ect... Not for those who aren't disciplined and are mentally weak.
He is going to get EXACTLY what he deserves, and coddling this type of behavior is inexcusable.
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Career highlights and awards
- "Pro Bowl (2013)
- First-team All-Pro (2013)
- NFL Receiving yards leader (1,646) (2013)
- PFWA Player of the Year (2013)
- Only player in NFL history with consecutive 200-yard receiving games in the regular season
- Most receiving yards in four-game span (774) in NFL history
- Most receiving yards in single season (1,646) in Browns history (2013)
- Most receiving yards in single game (261) in Browns history
- Most receptions in a game (14) in Browns history (tied Ozzie Newsome)
- Most 100-yard receiving games in a single season (7) in Browns history (2013)"
With a year like this somebody out there is going to make a substantial effort to get this kid sober. I think the Browns should continue to roll the dice with JG and start a serious
pushback with bodyguards, a life coach, and a kick to the nutz.
i suspect that narcotics will present with any blood samples he provided after his arrest so that's an additional hurdle. remember, the league let stallworth continue his career
after being convicted of DUI manslaughter charges so there should be some wiggle room for this party animal
Posted Yesterday, 05:00 PM
Ironic, I am drunk.
AA ain't for everybody....jfs
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bet your ass the browns will trade some guy like this in the future after the 1st strike. After what he did towards the end of last year it was very damn possible we could have gotten a 1st rounder for him....all of you think about that. We already had a pretty good fucking draft...we could have had one of the best drafts in NFL history with an extra pick if it was high enough. Even with a lower 1st round pick we could have packaged it off for next year. Even a high 2nd round pick would have been awesome which is the absolute MINIMUM we would have gotten for Gordon.
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you can't fix dumb.
you know you're having a hearing in front of the league in a couple of weeks. you got booted off your college team for pissing positive. you got popped twice since in the league. you might have had a fighting chance for a reduced suspension if you could have just played it clean for another 2 freakin weeks.
that is just dumb.
weed is not an addictive drug, i don't care what anyone says. this is the first time we've heard of him getting in trouble with alcohol and it was barely over the legal limit, so we can't call him an alcoholic.
what you can call him is an empowered kid (because of money now) with talent that wants to be pimp daddy king in front of his friends. so how is rehab going to help that? maybe if his parents would have done a better job raising him and helping him understand how to pick out good friends, he wouldn't be society's problem now. i guarantee you his family was fucked, but so was mine and if someone was to offer me millions of dollars for my talents i'd be so squeaky clean the sun would squint at me.
let him work at circle K for his weed money. on a positive note......at least he's not a serial killer.
you can't fix dumb.
you know you're having a hearing in front of the league in a couple of weeks. you got booted off your college team for pissing positive. you got popped twice since in the league. you might have had a fighting chance for a reduced suspension if you could have just played it clean for another 2 freakin weeks.
that is just dumb.
weed is not an addictive drug, i don't care what anyone says. this is the first time we've heard of him getting in trouble with alcohol and it was barely over the legal limit, so we can't call him an alcoholic.
what you can call him is an empowered kid (because of money now) with talent that wants to be pimp daddy king in front of his friends. so how is rehab going to help that? maybe if his parents would have done a better job raising him and helping him understand how to pick out good friends, he wouldn't be society's problem now. i guarantee you his family was fucked, but so was mine and if someone was to offer me millions of dollars for my talents i'd be so squeaky clean the sun would squint at me.
let him work at circle K for his weed money. on a positive note......at least he's not a serial killer.
come on mik:
do i need to search the archives for some of your dumb escapades you've shared over the years?
rare is the young person who doesn't do dumb, irresponsible shit. JG's transgressions take on a life of their own because he happens to be a gifted professional athlete. my
guess is that he is garden variety bi-polar.
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yeah man i've done some awfully stupid shit IN THE PAST and a couple of times i probably could've been killed given the circumstances where i was at and what i was doing..........
but there is a huge difference between me and josh gordon.
my antics didn't affect my family. they didn't affect any co-workers. and they didn't affect a fan-base of thousands and thousands of people.
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I confess I have done many stupid ass things and driven drunk many times in the past (not for many years). I lucked out and never got busted. But I think Slow may be onto something with his mental state. This kid just does not seem to get it. No matter what happens he keeps repeating the same mistakes.
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mik, In the army, you mean to tell me you never were never hung over or high while on duty? how could your "coworkers" not be affected by your condition?
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here's the thing, and a major problem with today's society.
no one wants to take responsibility for their actions anymore. step up to the mic and said i screwed up. simple as that.
BUT NO....
we'd rather have some quack excuse it all by diagnosing a person with whatever mental affliction is the flavor of the week.
there was no bi-polar in the sixties. there was no ADD, ADDD, CADD, CGI..... you were either a fuck up who needed a kick in the ass, a criminal or mentally ill to the point were you were committed. there were also Retarded people. sorry, but that's what they were called then.
so which category would josh have fit into?
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mik, In the army, you mean to tell me you never were never hung over or high while on duty? how could your "coworkers" not be affected by your condition?
mik, In the army, you mean to tell me you never were never hung over or high while on duty? how could your "coworkers" not be affected by your condition?
i didn't start getting hangovers until i was in my thirties. and i've always known my limits. i never have gotten 'falling down drunk'.
like i've said before i never wanted to be that guy who falls asleep on his bar stool.
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Man, I feel bad for Josh. The kid just can't catch a break. He obviously went to drinking to get away from the weed, so he could play this year, then he probably was having a good time and realized that he shouldn't drive until his buzz went down. He probably thought that he was good after a good bit, then he gets pulled over and he's just a fraction over the LEGAL LIMIT... unfuckingbelievable. Josh has some bad luck, I'll admit that he appears to come by it honestly.
This looks a lot worse than it really is.
Maybe, now he'll be forced to get a driver to take him places.
Man, I feel bad for Josh. The kid just can't catch a break. He obviously went to drinking to get away from the weed, so he could play this year, then he probably was having a good time and realized that he shouldn't drive until his buzz went down. He probably thought that he was good after a good bit, then he gets pulled over and he's just a fraction over the LEGAL LIMIT... unfuckingbelievable. Josh has some bad luck, I'll admit that he appears to come by it honestly.
This looks a lot worse than it really is.
Maybe, now he'll be forced to get a driver to take him places.
"Can't Catch a Break"???!?!?!
Give me and everyone with a straight head a fock'n break. What's wrong with society today? Why are we making excuses for these people. If this guy have half a brain, he would had taken car service out and back home if he was going to drink. Now all he's thinking is.."i can't catch a break", "I was only a fraction over", "why are they out to get me", "blah", "blah", "blah"...
How about look in the mirror you numb nut.
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So many people acting all SURPRISE BY THIS.
Gordon will and should NEVER see the football field again until he can show he is in control of his life, if NOT…dude will someday take the life of one of us or someone we love.
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well hopefully we'll have a running game this year.
we don't need gordon, megatron or AJ green.
we need balance. and with those guys you mentioned and the new shanty offense i'm hoping we'll still go .500.
hell most of us had written gordon off for the year before this.
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4 pages is enuff on this douche nozzle. Lets start a thread about wtf we are going to look like at Wr. Hawkins, Austin, Burlson. I just dont see it going well. I didnt forget about cameron. He cant do it all.
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He's immensely talented, but I don't think Farmer, Pettine or Shanny see him as "must have".
Little and Bess fucking killed us last year.
If we can field three good receivers as opposed to one great one and two awful ones, we are ahead of the game.
Hawkins and Burleson are going to be huge upgrades over The Drive Killers.
That leaves Austin, Benjamin, Armstrong, Johnson and the NKOTB to bring the rest of the production.
I really think we will be OK.
Plus JCam is tits, and will be even better this year after his learning experience as a starter.
Oh ... And we replaced our 35 yo running back with real talent and bolstered the o-line.
WR is not worrying me. Honestly.
And we can use that Bills draft pick next year to replace aging Austin and Burleson.
Well played, Farmer.
Z
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So as the saga continues Gordon was bailed out this morning by a multiple felon criminal with mostly gun and drug charges in his long illustrious career. I will take a flyer this is Gordon's partner in the dope trade. When it rains it pours.
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