If the Redskins are forced to change their name.......
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This whole thing about the team name is pure bullshit. Hell why don't we just get rid of the team names completely. There absolutely has to be someone in the world offended by every name humanly possible. Don't like the name? Tough shit don't buy the product. Even more complete shit is the government getting involved. Fuck they can't run a country so I am pretty sure they do not have time to worry about meaningless crap like this.
I guarantee you that if there was a team named the Hillbillies the entire hillbilly nation could complain and it would go abso-fucking-lutely nowhere!!
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The Seminole tribe actually endorse Fla. St. That's how they get away with it.
i wonder how much of a donation FLA ST. had to give the seminole tribe to 'endorse' them?
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/24/sports/24mascot.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0i wonder how much of a donation FLA ST. had to give the seminole tribe to 'endorse' them?
They've always had an affiliation with the program, even choosing the face paint and garb of Chief Osceola.
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hopefully I'm just missing the tongue in cheek...but you're not actually suggesting the "gubment" was behind the NBA forcing Sterling out or even the pressure to make Snyder change the logo..are you? The govt had absolutely "zero" to do with the NBA's decision that Donald Sterling was bad for their brand, none whatsoever. The NBA is a private organization and if they felt Donald Sterlings private comments didn't reflect badly on the rest of the owners and brass at HQ..than they would have done nothing and the govt probably couldn't have done shit about it. With the Redskins, that was the patent office saying their logo isn't protected anymore because it would be akin to a team calling themselves the so and so niggers, they could do so...but they couldn't sue anybody for infringing on their brand because you can't patent the N word. They just came to a legal decision that Redskin is akin to the N word. Snyder doesn't have to do anything, he can keep calling the team the Redskins.....but you and I can make Washington Redskins merchandise now and sell if we were so inclined. He just has to live with that if he's super attached to the Redskins name. That is all. Nothing to do with Govt overreach on this one.
The NFL is also a private organization last I checked
The NFL is also a private organization last I checked
right, which is why the name has been around for as long as it has. Nobody has denied Dan Snyder the ability to continue calling his team the Redskins. All that has happened is the patent office has determined that the name "Redskin" was indeed a racial epithet at one point akin to the N word...and it can't be trademarked. A trademark is something that can only be granted and enforced by a govt so it isn't an "intrinsic" right of any person or company. The U.S is fortunate to have strong patent law, places like Greece your intellectual property rights mean dick. Anybody can come up with a good idea and anybody else can copy it a week later....cause they have a weak govt or one that is willfully uninterested in such matters. Nobody can or will "force" the Redskins to change their name...it's societal pressure and that afterall is the fundamental principle of capitalism. If enough people demand the name be changed and the team still doesn't change it...they could lose money. That's it. No more no less.
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This whole thing about the team name is pure bullshit. Hell why don't we just get rid of the team names completely. There absolutely has to be someone in the world offended by every name humanly possible. Don't like the name? Tough shit don't buy the product. Even more complete shit is the government getting involved. Fuck they can't run a country so I am pretty sure they do not have time to worry about meaningless crap like this.
I guarantee you that if there was a team named the Hillbillies the entire hillbilly nation could complain and it would go abso-fucking-lutely nowhere!!
This whole thing about the team name is pure bullshit. Hell why don't we just get rid of the team names completely. There absolutely has to be someone in the world offended by every name humanly possible. Don't like the name? Tough shit don't buy the product. Even more complete shit is the government getting involved. Fuck they can't run a country so I am pretty sure they do not have time to worry about meaningless crap like this.
I guarantee you that if there was a team named the Hillbillies the entire hillbilly nation could complain and it would go abso-fucking-lutely nowhere!!
Am I missing something? Has the govt told Snyder he has to change the name?
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i don't think so. they are just publicly weighing in on something that has nothing to do with them except political favor.
i think there is more uproar from idiotic PC people than from some indian tribe or union.
i said to my friend last week that snyder would never change the name and he shouldn't...that i hadn't heard anything from any american indian groups etc. and he told me "all it takes is one person."
i'm starting to think he's right.
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how was the NBA team used to be the Washington bullets? fitting for DC for a while. I am just thinking that if this change is forced, it could start a whole thing across the country. No more Indians, braves, local H.S. here in Cali their mascot is the Arabs (think it kinda funny), I remember my Jr. high school had to change their mascot "Warriors" a few years back to something cream puff.
how was the NBA team used to be the Washington bullets? fitting for DC for a while. I am just thinking that if this change is forced, it could start a whole thing across the country. No more Indians, braves, local H.S. here in Cali their mascot is the Arabs (think it kinda funny), I remember my Jr. high school had to change their mascot "Warriors" a few years back to something cream puff.
Union school district, specifically their high school football team, is one of the most prominent in Oklahoma (Indian Territory/ "Land of the Red Man"), yet they use the Redskin moniker.
The funniest part, the biggest lawsuit they've faced is from the University of Miami for using the split U as their logo. Have they faced pressure and lawsuits about the Redskin moniker? Yup, but since they rank in the top 50 of high school football teams nationally, as well as compete for state championships, every damn year, you don't hear a lot of bitching in these parts.
The only reason this is an issue is because some po-dunk Indian tribes and politicians want some time in the press. If Washington could actually win on a consistent basis I fucking guarantee it wouldn't be an issue.
I'm half Irish and you want to know the only time I find Notre Dame's moniker and name offensive? When they are losing to fucking Navy, no offense to all the seamen out there. Do I look like a little drunken
midget standing like a 1800's era boxer? Hell no, although that is my go to fighting stance (I don't fight often) but that's a different story.
Needless to say, Washington just needs to win. It cures all ills. If it can work for one of the biggest school districts in Oklahoma, it can (well it would anywhere else besides Washington) work for a NFL team.
Do you guys remember hearing about this two years ago when RG3 took them to the playoffs?
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The name will change eventually, probably sooner than later. The only question is what will it change to.
Since they have the Washington Wizards, how about the Washington Muggles.
More likely it will be an animal rather than some "politcal" name (Senators/Lobbyists/Insiders etc.).
Keep alliteration? Something innocuous like the Wildcats.
(or, they could do both and call them the Weasels).
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we should all at least be honest here, it may not be quite the N word...but it's pretty close. This was a derogatory term used against a people we actually quite literally exterminated. So if the handful of native americans left in this land say hey...could you change that, what's the big fucking deal? Washington football fans are still going to watch the team. Same with Chief Wahoo...who cares? Will any of you stop watching Tribe games cause they get rid of that stupid red buffoon?
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How about the Washington Pussies?
WSS
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God damn it Gipper stop mentioning muggles all the time you homo.
Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind... -
washington maroons
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God damn it Gipper stop mentioning muggles all the time you homo.
God damn it Gipper stop mentioning muggles all the time you homo.
LOL.
I don't know what a muggle is but it is probably from one of those troll movies where there is a wizard and they play with brooms and shit.
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I bet you no one would.
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God damn it Gipper stop mentioning muggles all the time you homo.
God damn it Gipper stop mentioning muggles all the time you homo.
You are just angry that I am a Wizard and you are a Muggle. Shazam Shazam
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God damn it Gipper stop mentioning muggles all the time you homo.
LOL.
I don't know what a muggle is but it is probably from one of those troll movies where there is a wizard and they play with brooms and shit.
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Zombo said:
LOL.
I don't know what a muggle is but it is probably from one of those troll movies where there is a wizard and they play with brooms and shit.
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Never watched or read any Harry Potter? A muggle is simply a person that is not endowed with the ability to perform magic.
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Zombo said:
LOL.
I don't know what a muggle is but it is probably from one of those troll movies where there is a wizard and they play with brooms and shit.
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Never watched or read any Harry Potter? A muggle is simply a person that is not endowed with the ability to perform magic.
Never watched or read any Harry Potter? A muggle is simply a person that is not endowed with the ability to perform magic.
Umm no, I never watched or read any of that stuff. Only Harry Potter I ever saw was when Lindsey Lohan played in a skit on SNL where her tits were busting out and the nerds were tripping over themselves. Good stuff.
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Never watched or read any Harry Potter? A muggle is simply a person that is not endowed with the ability to perform magic.
Umm no, I never watched or read any of that stuff. Only Harry Potter I ever saw was when Lindsey Lohan played in a skit on SNL where her tits were busting out and the nerds were tripping over themselves. Good stuff.
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Zombo said:
Umm no, I never watched or read any of that stuff. Only Harry Potter I ever saw was when Lindsey Lohan played in a skit on SNL where her tits were busting out and the nerds were tripping over themselves. Good stuff.
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OK, and who do you think caused those tits to bust out like that? It wasn't a muggle.
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What's so hard here to understand? The term Caucasian is race descriptor, like the term native American or African American etc, etc. You would not be buying merchandise labeled Cleveland Honky's...or Cleveland Cracka ass Cracka's. Of course no one would be "offended" by the word Caucasian cause it's not a "slur". But you still wouldn't be buying Cleveland sports merchandise with the word Caucasian on it cause that's a stupid ass name.
How many of you would be offended by this change?
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