TEAM AMERICA: World Cup
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I have seen these games....and they are supposed to be the best of the best.....and in these games, the refs are constantly getting it wrong.
The world cup does not produce the best football. These teams are thrown together a few times a year to play, as opposed to the domestic teams that play together every day.
Imagine there's a tournament in the offseason where each state picks a team of players from that state. They'll be NFL players, but because they don't get much time together, they can't really gel that well as a team. But still, everyone cheers like mad for their own state, because they're representing.
The world cup does not produce the best football. These teams are thrown together a few times a year to play, as opposed to the domestic teams that play together every day.
Imagine there's a tournament in the offseason where each state picks a team of players from that state. They'll be NFL players, but because they don't get much time together, they can't really gel that well as a team. But still, everyone cheers like mad for their own state, because they're representing.
I wish they would condense the Champions League into a month similar to the World Cup. That would probably be soccer's best bet of catching America's short attention span. Play it right about now every year so the only competition would be baseball and a few tennis and golf tournaments and you'll get some great ratings across the pond.
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The perspective is that the object of football is to hit the other guy...all players on the field are allowed to hit all the other guys on the field, within certain limitations (like spearing and head shots)....The object of football is not to hit the ball as in other sports.
Even in rugby where you can tackle the ball carrier, you are not allowed to hit the other guys on the field unless they have the ball (at least that is my understanding...that there is no "blocking" in rugby). Again, not so in football.
Yep, you have to actually use your brain to get the better of people in some sports...
Suh SMASH!!!
Yep, you have to actually use your brain to get the better of people in some sports...
Suh SMASH!!!
Actually, football is the game that perhaps needs the most intelligence because it requires the most coordination of effort of all the players on the field.
As noted above, one beauty of baseball is the individuality of the sport, in football it is very much the opposite. Every person on an 11 man offense or defense have there assignments.....and that effort of, yes, smashing into the opponents requires brute force....it also requires more cooperative effort, more technique, more...intelligence to accomplish the results you want than most of the other sports. You often hear how one man having a breakdown in their assignment can ruin an entire play. Its true.
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Brazil certainly did nazi that one coming.
Anyone? Anyone?
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Yep, you have to actually use your brain to get the better of people in some sports...
Suh SMASH!!!
Actually, football is the game that perhaps needs the most intelligence because it requires the most coordination of effort of all the players on the field.
As noted above, one beauty of baseball is the individuality of the sport, in football it is very much the opposite. Every person on an 11 man offense or defense have there assignments.....and that effort of, yes, smashing into the opponents requires brute force....it also requires more cooperative effort, more technique, more...intelligence to accomplish the results you want than most of the other sports. You often hear how one man having a breakdown in their assignment can ruin an entire play. Its true.
Actually, football is the game that perhaps needs the most intelligence because it requires the most coordination of effort of all the players on the field.
As noted above, one beauty of baseball is the individuality of the sport, in football it is very much the opposite. Every person on an 11 man offense or defense have there assignments.....and that effort of, yes, smashing into the opponents requires brute force....it also requires more cooperative effort, more technique, more...intelligence to accomplish the results you want than most of the other sports. You often hear how one man having a breakdown in their assignment can ruin an entire play. Its true.
I wouldn't say football requires the most intelligence. The thing about football is all of the positions are so different. You can't just take the most positive aspects of each and call that football.
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
Well put about the offsides rule. His assessment that it promoted lazy defense could not be more wrong. I've played defense my entire life, offsides is just another element I need to consider. Also, completely opening the game up and turning it into kickball would ruin it.
But, like we've said before, his limited knowledge of the game isn't stopping him from trying to impose rule changes. Though it should, because he has no idea what he's talking about.
Yep, all I am trying to do is to make it less boring. To infuse more offense. You could live with the game being more exciting. After all, baseball adopted the designated hitter, football adopted the no bump and run rule, basketball adopted the 3 point shot.
But by all means, keep your archaic, boring rules.
The WC will be over in a few days and no one, anywhere will have to talk soccer again for another 4 years....or at least until the Olympics.
Yep, all I am trying to do is to make it less boring. To infuse more offense. You could live with the game being more exciting. After all, baseball adopted the designated hitter, football adopted the no bump and run rule, basketball adopted the 3 point shot.
But by all means, keep your archaic, boring rules.
The WC will be over in a few days and no one, anywhere will have to talk soccer again for another 4 years....or at least until the Olympics.
Removing offsides in soccer is a much bigger change than the ones you mentioned. The rest of the world and a good bit of America find the sport plenty exciting already.
I find baseball incredibly dull and slow. I could think of ways that would make it more exciting for me, but it would completely change the sport.
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
Actually, football is the game that perhaps needs the most intelligence because it requires the most coordination of effort of all the players on the field.
As noted above, one beauty of baseball is the individuality of the sport, in football it is very much the opposite. Every person on an 11 man offense or defense have there assignments.....and that effort of, yes, smashing into the opponents requires brute force....it also requires more cooperative effort, more technique, more...intelligence to accomplish the results you want than most of the other sports. You often hear how one man having a breakdown in their assignment can ruin an entire play. Its true.
I wouldn't say football requires the most intelligence. The thing about football is all of the positions are so different. You can't just take the most positive aspects of each and call that football.
I wouldn't say football requires the most intelligence. The thing about football is all of the positions are so different. You can't just take the most positive aspects of each and call that football.
In soccer you are often required to do someone else's job. A counter attack might result in a forward having to do some defending, or a defender may suddenly find himself through on goal. There's nothing close to the level of specialisation you have in the NFL, where you wouldn't ask a WR to suddenly play guard for a minute because the starter couldn't make it up the pitch in time.
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My cousin is stationed in Germany and sent this to me:
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Best so far for me:
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I wouldn't say football requires the most intelligence. The thing about football is all of the positions are so different. You can't just take the most positive aspects of each and call that football.
In soccer you are often required to do someone else's job. A counter attack might result in a forward having to do some defending, or a defender may suddenly find himself through on goal. There's nothing close to the level of specialisation you have in the NFL, where you wouldn't ask a WR to suddenly play guard for a minute because the starter couldn't make it up the pitch in time.
In soccer you are often required to do someone else's job. A counter attack might result in a forward having to do some defending, or a defender may suddenly find himself through on goal. There's nothing close to the level of specialisation you have in the NFL, where you wouldn't ask a WR to suddenly play guard for a minute because the starter couldn't make it up the pitch in time.
Uhmm, right. The NFL is a far more specialized game. That is why I say the intellect in football must be at a high level. Each of those "specialists" have their own tasks to perform, but they must be performed in concert with what each of the other specialists are doing out there in order for the entire team to perform properly and to make a play come off as designed.
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Yep, all I am trying to do is to make it less boring. To infuse more offense. You could live with the game being more exciting. After all, baseball adopted the designated hitter, football adopted the no bump and run rule, basketball adopted the 3 point shot.
But by all means, keep your archaic, boring rules.
The WC will be over in a few days and no one, anywhere will have to talk soccer again for another 4 years....or at least until the Olympics.
Removing offsides in soccer is a much bigger change than the ones you mentioned. The rest of the world and a good bit of America find the sport plenty exciting already.
I find baseball incredibly dull and slow. I could think of ways that would make it more exciting for me, but it would completely change the sport.
Removing offsides in soccer is a much bigger change than the ones you mentioned. The rest of the world and a good bit of America find the sport plenty exciting already.
I find baseball incredibly dull and slow. I could think of ways that would make it more exciting for me, but it would completely change the sport.
Every single pitch of a baseball game could result in some significant action, be it from a home run to a strike out. Every pitch is mano a mano.
The hardest skill in any sport I know of is to hit a round ball with a round bat.
I mean, what changes could you suggest to make the game more exciting? Tossing the ball underhand? Playing in kilts? Using a golf ball?
Please, tell us.
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Removing offsides in soccer is a much bigger change than the ones you mentioned. The rest of the world and a good bit of America find the sport plenty exciting already.
I find baseball incredibly dull and slow. I could think of ways that would make it more exciting for me, but it would completely change the sport.
Every single pitch of a baseball game could result in some significant action, be it from a home run to a strike out. Every pitch is mano a mano.
The hardest skill in any sport I know of is to hit a round ball with a round bat.
I mean, what changes could you suggest to make the game more exciting? Tossing the ball underhand? Playing in kilts? Using a golf ball?
Please, tell us.
Every single pitch of a baseball game could result in some significant action, be it from a home run to a strike out. Every pitch is mano a mano.
The hardest skill in any sport I know of is to hit a round ball with a round bat.
I mean, what changes could you suggest to make the game more exciting? Tossing the ball underhand? Playing in kilts? Using a golf ball?
Please, tell us.
Steroids and HGH.
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Removing offsides in soccer is a much bigger change than the ones you mentioned. The rest of the world and a good bit of America find the sport plenty exciting already.
I find baseball incredibly dull and slow. I could think of ways that would make it more exciting for me, but it would completely change the sport.
Every single pitch of a baseball game could result in some significant action, be it from a home run to a strike out. Every pitch is mano a mano.
The hardest skill in any sport I know of is to hit a round ball with a round bat.
I mean, what changes could you suggest to make the game more exciting? Tossing the ball underhand? Playing in kilts? Using a golf ball?
Please, tell us.
Every single pitch of a baseball game could result in some significant action, be it from a home run to a strike out. Every pitch is mano a mano.
The hardest skill in any sport I know of is to hit a round ball with a round bat.
I mean, what changes could you suggest to make the game more exciting? Tossing the ball underhand? Playing in kilts? Using a golf ball?
Please, tell us.
Percentage wise, it's harder to save a PK.
Idk. I find the sport so incredibly boring to begin with I'd have to make massive changes. Ummm... Allow contact and allow guys on the field to block the runner on the way to the base. Make it like crazy kickball and allow an unlimited number of players on each base. Collisions at every base. Still playing when there is a light drizzle... Adding more athletic elements
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
In soccer you are often required to do someone else's job. A counter attack might result in a forward having to do some defending, or a defender may suddenly find himself through on goal. There's nothing close to the level of specialisation you have in the NFL, where you wouldn't ask a WR to suddenly play guard for a minute because the starter couldn't make it up the pitch in time.
Uhmm, right. The NFL is a far more specialized game. That is why I say the intellect in football must be at a high level. Each of those "specialists" have their own tasks to perform, but they must be performed in concert with what each of the other specialists are doing out there in order for the entire team to perform properly and to make a play come off as designed.
Uhmm, right. The NFL is a far more specialized game. That is why I say the intellect in football must be at a high level. Each of those "specialists" have their own tasks to perform, but they must be performed in concert with what each of the other specialists are doing out there in order for the entire team to perform properly and to make a play come off as designed.
Not every position in football requires one to be a great tactician. Not every person needs to be perfect each play.
Plays happen in soccer too, they're just on the fly and with a smaller number of players involved.
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
Every single pitch of a baseball game could result in some significant action, be it from a home run to a strike out. Every pitch is mano a mano.
The hardest skill in any sport I know of is to hit a round ball with a round bat.
I mean, what changes could you suggest to make the game more exciting? Tossing the ball underhand? Playing in kilts? Using a golf ball?
Please, tell us.
Percentage wise, it's harder to save a PK.
Idk. I find the sport so incredibly boring to begin with I'd have to make massive changes. Ummm... Allow contact and allow guys on the field to block the runner on the way to the base. Make it like crazy kickball and allow an unlimited number of players on each base. Collisions at every base. Still playing when there is a light drizzle... Adding more athletic elements
Percentage wise, it's harder to save a PK.
Idk. I find the sport so incredibly boring to begin with I'd have to make massive changes. Ummm... Allow contact and allow guys on the field to block the runner on the way to the base. Make it like crazy kickball and allow an unlimited number of players on each base. Collisions at every base. Still playing when there is a light drizzle... Adding more athletic elements
OK then, why don't we just allow soccer players to grab, tackle, punch, kick each other with no penalty.
In fact, lets change soccer so that the motherfuckers can use their hands.
After all, after our brains the single most important thing about human beings is that we have hands.
(the answer is: they have already done that, it is called Handball and is mostly played in Europe. It is essentially soccer held on a smaller court with a softball sized ball)
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Uhmm, right. The NFL is a far more specialized game. That is why I say the intellect in football must be at a high level. Each of those "specialists" have their own tasks to perform, but they must be performed in concert with what each of the other specialists are doing out there in order for the entire team to perform properly and to make a play come off as designed.
Not every position in football requires one to be a great tactician. Not every person needs to be perfect each play.
Plays happen in soccer too, they're just on the fly and with a smaller number of players involved.
Not every position in football requires one to be a great tactician. Not every person needs to be perfect each play.
Plays happen in soccer too, they're just on the fly and with a smaller number of players involved.
Yea, like basketball.
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For you soccer fans, if you like the way that game was decided yesterday, please go to your bathroom, look at yourself in the mirror and say "I am looking at a fucking Retard". Because that is what deciding the most important tournament in the sport is with penalty kicks: Retarded.
If you enjoyed that, please go to your local geneticist and have yourself tested for Down's Syndrome.
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Not every position in football requires one to be a great tactician. Not every person needs to be perfect each play.
Plays happen in soccer too, they're just on the fly and with a smaller number of players involved.
Yea, like basketball.
Yea, like basketball.
Yeah, pretty much. More elaborate, but pretty much the same basic concept
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This really needed a new thread? Hopefully someone can merge.
Anyway, have a read through this, it details a load of ideas. Which would you be in favour of?
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This really needed a new thread? Hopefully someone can merge.
Anyway, have a read through this, it details a load of ideas. Which would you be in favour of?
This really needed a new thread? Hopefully someone can merge.
Anyway, have a read through this, it details a load of ideas. Which would you be in favour of?
Here is the quote from that article that I like best:
One notable exception occurred in semi final of the 2006 World Cup when the Italian team believed that they would lose to the Germans in the penalty shoot-out. They threw everything at the Germans, hitting the post and bar in the first two minutes of extra time and played with an exciting reckless abandon that eventually saw them get goals in the final minutes of extra time.
This semi-final was frenzied, exhilerating football that recalled an earlier game in the tournament, Australia vs Croatia, in which only the winner would progress to the next stage. Sadly, this game is remembered by most people for Graham Poll's refereeing blunders, but this was another helter-skelter ride and probably the best game in the competition.
I believe that if you played by the rule that a game was won by scoring the "Golden Goal", it would vastly increase the excitability and the efforts of the teams involved. Until a goal is scored, no one wins. That would lead to urgency on the part of each team to score. It would cause them to be aggressive and attack the goal.
Laying back and playing patty cake like these teams seem to do sucks the life out of the game. You say guys would get tired? Too damn bad. Guys get tired playing hockey....and eventually that "tiredness" may lead to a breakdown in a defense and a score. So, good, let them get tired. The team that is most aggressive, in the best shape should win. Again, it is done in NHL hockey, it should be done here....at least in the elimination rounds.
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You watch a handful of games every four years, you know nothing about "the life of the game".
I would be for the 30 like it is now, then a 30 golden goal. They'd have to allow more sub's for the last period though. Like an extra 3 or 4.
You can't play indefinitely though without risking injury. Well, there's always a risk, but that would be an unnecessary increased risk
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