Jay Cutler posts 26 QB rating in Pro Bowl
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@inspecta said:
This thread is just another in a long line of epic failures on the part of Lumbergh to justify his manlovers shitty shitty play over the past 2 years, by his logic if there's somebody out there doing it worse than Anderson then Anderson is GOOOOOOD!!!Lumby, do you ever tire of being laughed at and ridiculed? Wait, dont' answer, we already have the answer, and it's in this thread...
I just want you to come out and be a man and say "I am not a fan of the Browns, but only Derek Anderson". That would make your bullshit a little less nauseating....
Lumpturd is actually hoping Denver will need the services of DA, It must Suck not being wanted!
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Lumbergh is merely pointing out to the Brady fanatics that crowed over a last years probowl statistic as to some sort of link to the quality of qb DA was. The probowl means nothing and Cutler is still one damn good gunslinging qb.
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Lumbergh is merely pointing out to the Brady fanatics that crowed over a last years probowl statistic as to some sort of link to the quality of qb DA was. The probowl means nothing and Cutler is still one damn good gunslinging qb.
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Lumbergh is merely pointing out to the Brady fanatics that crowed over a last years probowl statistic as to some sort of link to the quality of qb DA was. The probowl means nothing and Cutler is still one damn good gunslinging qb.
Lumbergh is merely pointing out to the Brady fanatics that crowed over a last years probowl statistic as to some sort of link to the quality of qb DA was. The probowl means nothing and Cutler is still one damn good gunslinging qb.
Wrong, osSKEWsev. The pro bowl was brought up by Bradys' ladies as more evidence of a trend that Anderson wasn't starter material. Maybe if he played with the best of the best, ran an offense he supposedly didn't have to learn again (and clearly didn't), had his #1 WR & TE on the field with him, his LT, and wore the flag football "I'm a QB" don't-hit-me jersey, then we should have seen him shake the 7-8 game slump he was in.
What I clearly remember was BE & K2 shaking their heads as he rifled balls over to the island of Maui.
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mz. said:
There aren't any Brady Fanatics here. There are Browns fans who hated having a shitty QB run the offense.And if the Scout guy is right, and the Browns go with DA over BQ, what's the reaction gonna be?
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mz. said:
There aren't any Brady Fanatics here. There are Browns fans who hated having a shitty QB run the offense.And if the Scout guy is right, and the Browns go with DA over BQ, what's the reaction gonna be?
And if the Scout guy is right, and the Browns go with DA over BQ, what's the reaction gonna be?
I dunno, I guess we'll complain about another 4-12 season with shitty QB play??
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really there are not brady fanatics here on this board? OK.... you mean talking about a kid who had at that point never started or played nfl ball and talking about why he is so much better than DA(after a franchise history best home game record 3700+ yards 30+ total tds in a 10 win season with one of the worst defenses in the entire NFL) does not stink of being a bit slanted?
more evidence... a probowl statistic.... probowl play is evidence of NFL playing quality.... Lets say that again PROBOWL APPEARANCE ... I mena probowl play is EVIDENCE.... OK. I dont care what any player does or rather DOES NOT do in the PROBOWL that no one watches on an Island that cares less (except for the tourism indstry) Jay Cutler is a decent qb and nothing he did in his Probowl Appearance I mean play means anything. DA put NO evidence of anything in his PROBOWL appearance...
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really there are not brady fanatics here on this board? OK.... you mean talking about a kid who had at that point never started or played nfl ball and talking about why he is so much better than DA(after a franchise history best home game record 3700+ yards 30+ total tds in a 10 win season with one of the worst defenses in the entire NFL) does not stink of being a bit slanted?
more evidence... a probowl statistic.... probowl play is evidence of NFL playing quality.... Lets say that again PROBOWL APPEARANCE ... I mena probowl play is EVIDENCE.... OK. I dont care what any player does or rather DOES NOT do in the PROBOWL that no one watches on an Island that cares less (except for the tourism indstry) Jay Cutler is a decent qb and nothing he did in his Probowl Appearance I mean play means anything. DA put NO evidence of anything in his PROBOWL appearance...
really there are not brady fanatics here on this board? OK.... you mean talking about a kid who had at that point never started or played nfl ball and talking about why he is so much better than DA(after a franchise history best home game record 3700+ yards 30+ total tds in a 10 win season with one of the worst defenses in the entire NFL) does not stink of being a bit slanted?
Wow. For the last time. Nobody talked about BQ being better. The hypothesis was made that at that point, "he couldn't be much worse, and since we've mortgaged next years draft, let's give him a shot." Holy shit.
And before you go accusing anybody of being slanted, I'd bet my right arm that you were more happy to see (tOSU alum) Santonio Holmes win the effing SB for the Stoolers than you've ever been about a TD or even a good play from our #10.
more evidence... a probowl statistic.... probowl play is evidence of NFL playing quality.... Lets say that again PROBOWL APPEARANCE ... I mena probowl play is EVIDENCE.... OK. I dont care what any player does or rather DOES NOT do in the PROBOWL that no one watches on an Island that cares less (except for the tourism indstry) Jay Cutler is a decent qb and nothing he did in his Probowl Appearance I mean play means anything. DA put NO evidence of anything in his PROBOWL appearance...
This is just rich4eagle territory here. I mean, what are you even talking about? I'd suggest outlining your thoughts on paper then trying to construct a post, but it's probably better for you in the long run if nobody understands what you're ranting about.
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really there are not brady fanatics here on this board? OK.... you mean talking about a kid who had at that point never started or played nfl ball and talking about why he is so much better than DA(after a franchise history best home game record 3700+ yards 30+ total tds in a 10 win season with one of the worst defenses in the entire NFL) does not stink of being a bit slanted?
more evidence... a probowl statistic.... probowl play is evidence of NFL playing quality.... Lets say that again PROBOWL APPEARANCE ... I mena probowl play is EVIDENCE.... OK. I dont care what any player does or rather DOES NOT do in the PROBOWL that no one watches on an Island that cares less (except for the tourism indstry) Jay Cutler is a decent qb and nothing he did in his Probowl Appearance I mean play means anything. DA put NO evidence of anything in his PROBOWL appearance...
really there are not brady fanatics here on this board? OK.... you mean talking about a kid who had at that point never started or played nfl ball and talking about why he is so much better than DA(after a franchise history best home game record 3700+ yards 30+ total tds in a 10 win season with one of the worst defenses in the entire NFL) does not stink of being a bit slanted?
more evidence... a probowl statistic.... probowl play is evidence of NFL playing quality.... Lets say that again PROBOWL APPEARANCE ... I mena probowl play is EVIDENCE.... OK. I dont care what any player does or rather DOES NOT do in the PROBOWL that no one watches on an Island that cares less (except for the tourism indstry) Jay Cutler is a decent qb and nothing he did in his Probowl Appearance I mean play means anything. DA put NO evidence of anything in his PROBOWL appearance...
I can only speak for myself, sev, but the only thing I like about Quinn is that he isn't Derek Anderson.
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Man, some of you are missing the real point here, which is that Cutler sucked big time in that game. With each pass I mumbled, "WTF was that!?!"
I hope we don't give up on looking into DA ... Quinn hasn't sold me at all and I don't think Chud had a clue what he was doing with that offense. DA saved all their asses in 2007, and they've all been canned around him now. Would like to see him in with this coaching staff before letting him go into the wind.
Keep up the good work Lum ... give'em hell.
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Lumbergh is merely pointing out to the Brady fanatics that crowed over a last years probowl statistic as to some sort of link to the quality of qb DA was. The probowl means nothing and Cutler is still one damn good gunslinging qb.
Wrong, osSKEWsev. The pro bowl was brought up by Bradys' ladies as more evidence of a trend that Anderson wasn't starter material. Maybe if he played with the best of the best, ran an offense he supposedly didn't have to learn again (and clearly didn't), had his #1 WR & TE on the field with him, his LT, and wore the flag football "I'm a QB" don't-hit-me jersey, then we should have seen him shake the 7-8 game slump he was in.
What I clearly remember was BE & K2 shaking their heads as he rifled balls over to the island of Maui.
Wrong, osSKEWsev. The pro bowl was brought up by Bradys' ladies as more evidence of a trend that Anderson wasn't starter material.
Evidence from probowl play? you dont understand the absurdity of your statement? No I dont really care how OSU alums do in the NFL, just because they played for the team means nothing to me once they hit the NFL. I MOtherFU@#$d him as much I did watching BE play in college and or cheer when BE actually catches a touchdown for us.
Basically the Brady fanatics were looking for ANYTHING whether real or imagined because DA was in the way of their preannointed savior.
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really there are not brady fanatics here on this board? OK.... you mean talking about a kid who had at that point never started or played nfl ball and talking about why he is so much better than DA(after a franchise history best home game record 3700+ yards 30+ total tds in a 10 win season with one of the worst defenses in the entire NFL) does not stink of being a bit slanted?
Wow. For the last time. Nobody talked about BQ being better. The hypothesis was made that at that point, "he couldn't be much worse, and since we've mortgaged next years draft, let's give him a shot." Holy shit.
And before you go accusing anybody of being slanted, I'd bet my right arm that you were more happy to see (tOSU alum) Santonio Holmes win the effing SB for the Stoolers than you've ever been about a TD or even a good play from our #10.
more evidence... a probowl statistic.... probowl play is evidence of NFL playing quality.... Lets say that again PROBOWL APPEARANCE ... I mena probowl play is EVIDENCE.... OK. I dont care what any player does or rather DOES NOT do in the PROBOWL that no one watches on an Island that cares less (except for the tourism indstry) Jay Cutler is a decent qb and nothing he did in his Probowl Appearance I mean play means anything. DA put NO evidence of anything in his PROBOWL appearance...
This is just rich4eagle territory here. I mean, what are you even talking about? I'd suggest outlining your thoughts on paper then trying to construct a post, but it's probably better for you in the long run if nobody understands what you're ranting about.
This is just rich4eagle territory here. I mean, what are you even talking about? I'd suggest outlining your thoughts on paper then trying to construct a post, but it's probably better for you in the long run if nobody understands what you're ranting about.
Hmmm
I wonder.
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Wrong, osSKEWsev. The pro bowl was brought up by Bradys' ladies as more evidence of a trend that Anderson wasn't starter material.
Evidence from probowl play? you dont understand the absurdity of your statement? No I dont really care how OSU alums do in the NFL, just because they played for the team means nothing to me once they hit the NFL. I MOtherFU@#$d him as much I did watching BE play in college and or cheer when BE actually catches a touchdown for us.
Basically the Brady fanatics were looking for ANYTHING whether real or imagined because DA was in the way of their preannointed savior.
Basically the Brady fanatics were looking for ANYTHING whether real or imagined because DA was in the way of their preannointed savior.
sev, I like you, but you're not getting it here.
We don't love Brady Quinn because he's Brady Quinn (well not yet). You could replace "Brady Quinn" with Matt Stafford, Sam Bradford, Colt McCoy, JaMarcus Russell Matt Leinart or (insert your young QB's name here). We would like that QB over Derek Anderson because he's not Derek Anderson. We would love him because of who he isn't, not who he is.
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Wrong, osSKEWsev. The pro bowl was brought up by Bradys' ladies as more evidence of a trend that Anderson wasn't starter material.
Evidence from probowl play? you dont understand the absurdity of your statement? No I dont really care how OSU alums do in the NFL, just because they played for the team means nothing to me once they hit the NFL. I MOtherFU@#$d him as much I did watching BE play in college and or cheer when BE actually catches a touchdown for us.
Basically the Brady fanatics were looking for ANYTHING whether real or imagined because DA was in the way of their preannointed savior.
Evidence from probowl play? you dont understand the absurdity of your statement?
No. Enlighten me.
My side of the argument is that Anderson's play in the last 7-8 games got progressively worse. Then came the probowl with it's ideal cast of comforts:
1. receiver's he's thrown to all season - no chemistry issues
2. an offense that he ran for 16 games previously - no aggravating learning curve to fight
3. a defense that basically can't touch the QB - no 'real' pressure on him (just like all season almost)
and he continues the shit-show that ENDED OUR SEASON.
So, yes, that constitutes as More Evidence of a trend that DA is not starter material because conditions for a QB will not ever be as good as they are in the Pro Bowl. Unless you get to be "all-time" QB in your family game of backyard football on Thanksgiving Day.
Basically the Brady fanatics were looking for ANYTHING whether real or imagined because DA was in the way of their preannointed savior.
Speaking of imaginations...
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mz the pussy I do understand that, my proposition is that had it not been a first round pick DA would be seen in a different light by fans. Just mu opinion but once we drafted anyone in the way was not getting a fair shake from the fans. Any other similar age first year starting qb putting up those stats would be well liked.
Legacy I dont think ANYTHING done in the Probowl is evidence of anything one way or another. Jay Cutlers terrible qb rating means butkus as well as what DA did or any other player.
I want BQ to start this upcoming year to show what he has or does not have. His preseason and 3 games last year were not exactly enlightening, we need a bigger sample. I am still of the opinion that he needs to throw the dart 25-30yds away to be successful in the NFL. His short game is fine but wont work against NFL level talent and coaching. IF he can develop that midrange bullet than he will be BETTER than DA, If not well than DA probably is our guy for a couple of years.
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I was pulling for Anderson. Who wouldn't want their teams QB to do well? Too bad he sucked out loud this season. It was time ot make a change a month before they finally did.
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Man, some of you are missing the real point here, which is that Cutler sucked big time in that game. With each pass I mumbled, "WTF was that!?!"
I hope we don't give up on looking into DA ... Quinn hasn't sold me at all and I don't think Chud had a clue what he was doing with that offense. DA saved all their asses in 2007, and they've all been canned around him now. Would like to see him in with this coaching staff before letting him go into the wind.
Keep up the good work Lum ... give'em hell.
Man, some of you are missing the real point here, which is that Cutler sucked big time in that game. With each pass I mumbled, "WTF was that!?!"
I hope we don't give up on looking into DA ... Quinn hasn't sold me at all and I don't think Chud had a clue what he was doing with that offense. DA saved all their asses in 2007, and they've all been canned around him now. Would like to see him in with this coaching staff before letting him go into the wind.
Keep up the good work Lum ... give'em hell.
Jesus Atenears, at least put up a warning before you make a post like that so people don't spit whatever they are eating or drinking all over their monitor in laughter. DA had a few good games early in the 2007 season that seriously padded his stats. After about the 6th game of the season, he crappped out. DA is not even a one hit wonder. Quinn is by far your best shot now. Thanks for the laughs but people should be able to charge you for the clean up of their computers after that post.
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mz the pussy I do understand that, my proposition is that had it not been a first round pick DA would be seen in a different light by fans. Just mu opinion but once we drafted anyone in the way was not getting a fair shake from the fans. Any other similar age first year starting qb putting up those stats would be well liked.
Legacy I dont think ANYTHING done in the Probowl is evidence of anything one way or another. Jay Cutlers terrible qb rating means butkus as well as what DA did or any other player.
I want BQ to start this upcoming year to show what he has or does not have. His preseason and 3 games last year were not exactly enlightening, we need a bigger sample. I am still of the opinion that he needs to throw the dart 25-30yds away to be successful in the NFL. His short game is fine but wont work against NFL level talent and coaching. IF he can develop that midrange bullet than he will be BETTER than DA, If not well than DA probably is our guy for a couple of years.
mz the pussy I do understand that, my proposition is that had it not been a first round pick DA would be seen in a different light by fans
Yes, sev, DA would have been on a slightly longer leash had he not had a 1st round pick on the bench behind him. It's just the reality of things. But to say DA didn't get a fair shake is ludicrous...in fact, it would be very very easy to make the argument that his leash was TOO long.
Numbers are numbers, though, and they do not lie, no matter who is on the bench behind you. DA's 2nd half of 2007 and entirety of 2008 was unacceptable by any standards.
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Anything DA accomplished in 2007 he accomplished on his own, he made himself. The kid has been mis-managed and all those who had a hand in that have been sent packing. I would keep this kid with almost whatever it takes, as long he ain't unhappy to be here. Get a development plan and grow both QB's. It's a business, explain to them that someone has to start and have a game plan around them. Pay them well, and If one can't handle that and needs more then trade'em.
We still don't know what we have in either. We had a rookie Head Coach, a rookie GM, and a rookie OC that neither were on the same page in the handling of him. We had Ken freaking Dorsey as his Mentor ... C'mon, that dude sucks.
The fans need to shut the hell up and allow Mangini to do his job, this lobbying against one QB or the other is stupid. Be a better fan than that.
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